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by **puroresu** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:11 pm

I like it how people try and defend the :censored:

we have in our squad with the "Rafa has had a lack of money". I'm sorry but Rafa doesnt get off that easily. There are good players out there, better than what we have for the money Rafa has spent on such garbage. He signed Pennant, Kuyt, Yossi, Vorinin, Aurelio cos he thought they were good players, not cos he didnt have enough money. If he cant find better players with that money thats his problem. He plays Kewell cos he thinks his a good player not cos he couldnt get anyone else. He payed over the odds for babel and then decides not to play him. I wouldnt trust Rafa with huge amounts of money as I dont think his the best judge of player or that great at getting the best out of players. Put C. Ronaldo in our side and he would struggle to get 10 league goals.

by **burjennio** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:11 pm

LittleHobo Posted on Jan. 31 2008,15:54
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im gonna be Mills Lane here and jump in the middle. Rafa should be given more time in a more hospitable working enviorment . However, Kuyt is garbage

Right, im off to solve the Middle East Crisis and get He-Man talking to Skeletor

give him more time though and he will still play kuyt ahead of actual goal threats like crouch and babel

kuyt works in between the lines apparantly

RB must see something in the guy, maybe he feels sorry for him, to be honest at least he tries. If anyone deserves the bullets its Harry Kruell, he was non existant last night - hes probably thinking about his bosman move at the end of the season, and who he can sucker in next ,my moneys on Spurs. Him and Woodgate in the same team is too good to be true, Michael Owen then becomes the final piece of the jigsaw. If only we had any left winger at all. Whats happening with Leto? Personally I thought he was treated rather harshly when we played Marseille when in fact the entire side that night needed shootin. He couldnt be much worse than whats on offer atm.

by **puroresu** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:14 pm

redtrader74 wrote:Impatience seems to rule the boards right now. There is a hysteria surrounding the managers position, because apparently 'We are Liverpool' and should be by rights always winning the LEague, well wake up, the challenge to make us real contenders is massive, and requires a hell of alot of work. IMO this was the year that we were well equipped for the challenge but the rug was pulled out from under Rafa, like it or not, call it excuses, BUT IT IS FACT.

If 3 1/2 years of not challenging for the League is enough to sack a manager who was building for the future and HAS succeeded in ALL the other competitions then so be it, thats the fickle world of current football fans. But i can assure you that unless we get our hands on some Billionaire sugar daddy, we will be back here within 3 years with the same rabid obsession of the League, because there is not a manager out there that can turn sh!t into Gold overnight.

3 years ago u could see Arsenal were building for the future as u could see the quality in there young players. How is Rafa building for the future? How many of the current squad can u honestly say would be here in 3 years. We dont have exciting young players who u watch and although they may make mistakes u know they are only going to get better. We have to many players who are not good enough and will get no better.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:15 pm

heimdall wrote:
DAV wrote:SABRE i agree with that 100%. RB going now would benefit no one- as the transfer deadline is nearly over and i wouldnt want any old manager taking charge. The end of the season i agree is time things should be re-assessed.
I'm not even bothering responding properly to Lando_Griffin, whats the point. He is the only true Liverpool supporter his opinions are right no one elses.Maybe he should take charge in the summer.

Lando is a vulgar piece of cr@p, he makes me laugh some times though, although not on purpose

You're the most ridiculed member on this board. Not one person agrees with your backward logic.

But then - keep dreaming, boy.

by **DAV** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:16 pm

He's back GREAT.

by **LittleHobo** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:16 pm

puroresu wrote:
redtrader74 wrote:Impatience seems to rule the boards right now. There is a hysteria surrounding the managers position, because apparently 'We are Liverpool' and should be by rights always winning the LEague, well wake up, the challenge to make us real contenders is massive, and requires a hell of alot of work. IMO this was the year that we were well equipped for the challenge but the rug was pulled out from under Rafa, like it or not, call it excuses, BUT IT IS FACT.

If 3 1/2 years of not challenging for the League is enough to sack a manager who was building for the future and HAS succeeded in ALL the other competitions then so be it, thats the fickle world of current football fans. But i can assure you that unless we get our hands on some Billionaire sugar daddy, we will be back here within 3 years with the same rabid obsession of the League, because there is not a manager out there that can turn sh!t into Gold overnight.

3 years ago u could see Arsenal were building for the future as u could see the quality in there young players. How is Rafa building for the future? How many of the current squad can u honestly say would be here in 3 years. We dont have exciting young players who u watch and although they may make mistakes u know they are only going to get better. We have to many players who are not good enough and will get no better.

i think rafas ability to nurture youth is pretty awful to be honest

imagine lucas and babel at arsenal, i think within 2 years they would be like henry and fabergas (potentially)

lucas i think could be a top centre mid, but under rafa i dont think he will get the treatment he needs

rafa signs him when he already had gerrard, alonso, sissoko and mascherano

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:16 pm

LittleHobo wrote:
heimdall wrote:
DAV wrote:SABRE i agree with that 100%. RB going now would benefit no one- as the transfer deadline is nearly over and i wouldnt want any old manager taking charge. The end of the season i agree is time things should be re-assessed.
I'm not even bothering responding properly to Lando_Griffin, whats the point. He is the only true Liverpool supporter his opinions are right no one elses.Maybe he should take charge in the summer.

Lando is a vulgar piece of cr@p, he makes me laugh some times though, although not on purpose

ugly man syndrome - you can tell it a mile off

he thinks the world is to blame for the way he looks

Get yourself in the LFC Hunk zone lad - see what the ladies on here think. :laugh:

by **Ciggy** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:17 pm

First time Ive smiled all day

by **REDTILLDEAD** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:17 pm

A lot of Rafa's signings have been average (not class) players....out of our whole squad there are maybe three world class players..ie...gerrard, torres, carragher,the rest are either just above average?.....or below average? and not one of those players would get a regular start in man u..arsenal, or chelsea's first teams he has had nearly four years now....and he still shops at netto instead of M+S. :veryangry

by **LittleHobo** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:21 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
LittleHobo wrote:
heimdall wrote:
DAV wrote:SABRE i agree with that 100%. RB going now would benefit no one- as the transfer deadline is nearly over and i wouldnt want any old manager taking charge. The end of the season i agree is time things should be re-assessed.
I'm not even bothering responding properly to Lando_Griffin, whats the point. He is the only true Liverpool supporter his opinions are right no one elses.Maybe he should take charge in the summer.

Lando is a vulgar piece of cr@p, he makes me laugh some times though, although not on purpose

ugly man syndrome - you can tell it a mile off

he thinks the world is to blame for the way he looks

Get yourself in the LFC Hunk zone lad - see what the ladies on here think.

im far too good looking for the hounds in that thread :cool:

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:24 pm

s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
s@int wrote:When Blackburn won the title, they won it with 89 points in 1995. All the points total means is the best teams have got stronger at the expense of the weaker. Its the points difference that tells the more interesting stories.

I have never thought Rafa is a sh!t manager. I keep saying this...... I just don't like it when people knock our past managers to try to make Rafa look better. He has won the CL and the FA cup, he doesn't need people saying he's a better manager than Shankly etc. (which Lando has said BTW)

If Rafa's not good enough deriding previous managers won't make him look any better and if he is good enough there is no need anyway. I think its reasonable to compare Rafa to Houllier but not Dalglish, Paisley or Shankly.

Well I think you'll find I said that to counter the inane ramblings of someone who suggested you measure a manager on their first 3 years.

In that case, Rafa is MILES better than Shankly.

And regarding Dalglish - it's easier to sustain success than to get it in the first place.

I refer you to your "Dalglish signings" post:

Why no mention of the following?:

Barry Venison,

Don Hutchinson,

Steve Harkness,

Alan Irvine,

Mike Hooper,

Nick Tanner,

Barry Jones,

Robbie Holcroft, and

John Durnin?

Is it because they weren't roaring successes?

I am not trying to get at King Kenny - the bloke is a legend. I am merely pointing out that 1.) History tends to be very blinkered and favours the good things, and 2.) Rafa isn't being given a fair comparison by many of the knuckleheads on here.

But I digress.

No-one is ever going to make me believe that Rafa is anything other than a genius. You can all p*ss and whine as much as you like, and you can belittle him all you want.

Just be aware that I will be there, right behind you, p*ssing in your literary ear all the way.

Which Dalglish signings post ? I haven't mentioned any signings in this thread?

BTW Venison went on to play for England,he also won the league with Liverpool, bought for £200k sold for £250k, Hutchinson went on to play for Scotland, bought for £175k sold for £1.5million, Steve Harkness was a decent player who we signed for £75k and sold for £350k. WTF are you on about Lando?

Alan Irvine we bought for £75k and sold for £100k

John Durnin was a free signing ffs that we sold for £250K

Barry Jones cost £500 not £500k, five hundred pounds AND HOOPER WAS SIGNED BY FAGAN NOT DALGLISH.

I think the pressure has been a bit more than you could bear mate. IS THAT REALLY THE BEST YOU COULD DO?

I only need to whisper the words Kuyt mate

You can believe whatever you want about Rafa being a genius, getting someone to agree with you is another matter entirely

As for Shankly - sometimes its better to be quiet and thought a fool Lando rather than open your mouth and prove it.

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Subject: Benitez to AC Milan

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Hello. I am New to this forum. I'm an American student studying at Liverpool John Moore's University, I heard a rumour from a friend who works at Anfield that Benitez is going to AC Milan. Done and dusted.

Funny that, as it's here as plain as day that Dalglish bought him:

Dalglish's signings

Funny also, that he made a profit - that couldn't be because of the vast amounts of time that passed and the inception of Sky's money, could it?

"Dirk Kuyt" is a Dutch International. What is your point exactly?

And don't f*cking condescend to me - if you can't read simple English and decipher the meaning for yourself, it's YOU whom is the fool.

I thought it was pretty f*cking obvious that I retaliated to some dumb punk ages ago who said "Wenger is a better manager because he won the double in his second season". "Ergo", said I, "This means that, by your logic, Benitez is a better manager than Shankly and Ferguson."

Do we understand this concept now? Have we finished trying to belittle me by using misunderstood information?

Because I'm here - if that's what you wish to attempt.

If you want to act like a c*nt I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY Lando. If you want to act like a reasonable person I am willing to be reasonable.

I never tried to belittle you, I just showed that you were talking boll0cks thats all.

You are letting your infatuation with Rafa go to your head mate.

My point about Kuyt is that he is cr@p mate , if you can't see that maybe a trip to specsavers would be in

order.

Take it whichever way you choose mate , I couldn't give a sh!t.

ps Rafa is not fit to clean Shanklys boots BTW

I see you still can't see your a*se for your elbow.

READ IT AGAIN AND THEN YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS A WAY OF PROVING THAT SOMEONE WAS CHATTING B*LLOCKS.

I have never intimated that Rafa is better than Shankly.

A c*nt? I'm a c*nt, am I? Why? For sticking up for the traditions and ways of LFC, when all around me appear to think we support Newcastle?

F*ck you if that's it - get on with belittling the gaffer at every turn, posting your stats showing the bad points but never the good.
Carry on attempting to pick holes in the pro-rafa arguement, then allowing utter tripe from the anti's go through your net.

Just remember all this when we've got that scumbag Moris at the helm. Just remember who told you he's a useless w*nker.

Just remember to apologise for being such a tw*t about the one man who DOES give a sh*t about Liverpool, and who is struggling on under such extreme circumstances, and who has given us our best times in 20 years.

Just remember that the next time you get on his back for failing to win a match, you ingrate.

by **Dundalk** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:29 pm

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:29 pm

DAV wrote:He's back GREAT.

My thread, c*nt. If you don't like it - f*ck off.

by **DAV** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:30 pm

what a guy Lando_Griffin is. I keep hearing this Liverpool dont sack managers. Call it what you like a move upstairs a resignation. But Souness,evans,Houlier. What ever happend to them

by **LittleHobo** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:30 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
DAV wrote:He's back GREAT.

My thread, c*nt. If you don't like it - f*ck off.

what a delightful man lando is

polilte,well mannered,can take it and dish it out

the perfect guy

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