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by **The Manhattan Project** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:50 pm

I just don't want a concrete bowl.

I want a design that is asymmetrical.

by **LFC #1** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:54 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:I just don't want a concrete bowl.

I want a design that is asymmetrical.

That's what I fear as well. Who's to say Coco won't come out at the end of the season and say that we will now have to revert to the original design. This has been going on for years and costs continue to spiral and we are still years away from a stadium. Effectively we have made very little progress at all.

by **The Manhattan Project** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:20 pm

If it came down to it, I'd be willing to accept a red version of the Allianz Arena.

Here's what it looks like in cutaway LEGO form:

by **Igor Zidane** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:24 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:If it came down to it, I'd be willing to accept a red version of the Allianz Arena.

Here's what it looks like in cutaway LEGO form:

That's

manhattan , you'd only get one player in there, it's just not practical mate.

by **The Manhattan Project** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:30 pm

They should make LEGO versions of Turkish stadiums too.

With little LEGO fires and knives and LEGO banners saying "Welcome to LEGO HELL"

by **JoeTerp** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:07 pm

If it is true that they are deciding between two designs that are just less radical versions of the new one, then they should put it to the people and have a vote or something. Make people use their fan card # to keep from fraud.

by **stmichael** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:12 pm

by **REDTILLDEAD** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:59 pm

I,m not a cynic....but i cant see this stadium or any other one for that matter ever getting built?.....The whole package has been a disaster since it was anounced after the two "cowboys" and that circus clown parry went public on it. Its becoming embarassing listening to their pathetic excuses, and back tracking statments what a PR fiasco its been. Parry should be fukked off pronto!...I was always in favour of the Dubai takeover they would have ploughed millions into the stadium and the team, we are stuck with a couple of "cowboys" (thanks to parry) who see LFC as a commercial enterprise, while in the process saddling the club with massive debts....I would rather stay put at Anfield, increase the capacity by pulling down that antiquated main stand, and replace it with a two tier stand then there might be more money available to buy quality players....instead of listening to the "cowboys" promising everthing...then delivering fukk all!. :veryangry

by **LFC2007** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:09 pm

stmichael wrote:

by **welsh wizzard** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:12 pm

REDTILLDEAD wrote:I,m not a cynic....but i cant see this stadium or any other one for that matter ever getting built?.....The whole package has been a disaster since it was anounced after the two "cowboys" and that circus clown parry went public on it. Its becoming embarassing listening to their pathetic excuses, and back tracking statments what a PR fiasco its been. Parry should be fukked off pronto!...I was always in favour of the Dubai takeover they would have ploughed millions into the stadium and the team, we are stuck with a couple of "cowboys" (thanks to parry) who see LFC as a commercial enterprise, while in the process saddling the club with massive debts....I would rather stay put at Anfield, increase the capacity by pulling down that antiquated main stand, and replace it with a two tier stand then there might be more money available to buy quality players....instead of listening to the "cowboys" promising everthing...then delivering fukk all!.

Have to agree with you there spot on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **JoeTerp** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:43 pm

There will be a new stadium eventually, thats a fact. Look at the new Wembley, that took forever (4 years) but its done

by **Dundalk** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:16 pm

stmichael wrote:

This is getting embarrassing

by **puroresu** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:30 pm

JoeTerp wrote:There will be a new stadium eventually, thats a fact. Look at the new Wembley, that took forever (4 years) but its done

surely that isnt the point. It may well be done eventually but I want concrete details.

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:26 am

Liverpool face funding crisis
By David Bond, Chief Sports Reporter
Last Updated: 1:07am GMT 20/12/2007

Liverpool's American owners, Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr, have postponed until 2009 plans to borrow £300 million from banks to pay for the club's new home at Stanley Park, plunging the project into fresh uncertainty.

Hicks and Gillett are confident of clinching a separate interim deal before Christmas with the Royal Bank of Scotland and American bank Wachovia to borrow £350 million to refinance a loan used to fund their £220 million takeover last February and pay for initial building work.

However, The Daily Telegraph has learned that there are now serious question marks over the rest of the money required to complete the move from Anfield. A combination of the global credit crunch and nervousness over the level of debt which will be placed on to Liverpool's balance sheet has forced Hicks and Gillett to abandon plans to raise all the money in one go.

Instead they are now looking to borrow £350 million to pay off a two-year loan with RBS worth approaching £270 million, inject £60 million of working capital for the new ground and cover £25 million of credit notes used to finance the summer purchases of Fernando Torres and Ryan Babel, again provided by RBS.

It is understood that while the £60 million of stadium financing will get Hicks and Gillett through the first 18 months of work on the Stanley Park project there are serious concerns over how they will raise the remaining £300 million needed to complete the stadium, which has been scaled back after the designs came in £50 million over budget.

Sources close to Hicks and Gillett maintain the Americans are confident of raising the money for the stadium in 2009 when it will be two years from completion and easier to secure contracts with future sponsors for naming rights and to predict income from the sale of club seats and executive boxes.

But contrary to promises made at the time of their takeover earlier this year, the owners are now preparing to load at least half of the new £350 million debt on to the club.

Banking sources said that, while Hicks and Gillett had now agreed to pump in £20 million each of their own cash to secure the new £350 million loan, one of the main sticking points previously has been the American pair's reluctance or inability to put up their own money. In addition to the £40 million in cash, the pair are also underwriting £75 million in letters of credit and £60 million in personal guarantees. The refinancing of the club's debts means that from next season Liverpool will have to shoulder about £30 million in annual interest repayments.

According to financial predictions for 2008, that will swallow up much of the club's spare cash, making it harder to provide funds for manager Rafa Benitez to invest in his squad. And although Benitez called a truce with Hicks and Gillett following a meeting on Sunday, tensions with the owners are likely to resurface if he is forced to sell players to fund new acquisitions in January.

As they say....... fkn great

by **JamCar05** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:57 pm

s@int wrote:to secure contracts with future sponsors for naming rights

Oh c'rap. Well I'm really looking forward to watching the mighty reds play in the Big Mac Bowl/Dome/Arena :down:

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