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I'm just pointing them out that there is some valid points to be taken seriously from them

Though you say that I'd be nuts for thinking the American government wouldn't be capable of killing it's own. How do you know they wouldn't? They have done and still do. Just in different forms or methods.

And why are you asking me to provide answers to things that I didn't even come up with in the first place. Like I say, I just agree with some of the things, and don't with others. I'm not willing to discredit them. It's just my opinion on the matter.

Its a bit like believing the President of the USA and leading Whitehouse figures would plan and organise a break in of the Democratic party headquarters, campaign fraud, political espionage and sabotage, illegal break-ins, wiretapping on a massive scale, including the wiretapping of the press and American citizens, and a secret slush fund laundered in Mexico to pay those who conducted these operations. Who would believe such rubbish........ oh wait that actually happened didn't it.

s@int wrote:

LFC2007 wrote:

s@int wrote:Its a bit like believing the President of the USA and leading Whitehouse figures would plan and organise a break in of the Democratic party headquarters, campaign fraud, political espionage and sabotage, illegal break-ins, wiretapping on a massive scale, including the wiretapping of the press and American citizens, and a secret slush fund laundered in Mexico to pay those who conducted these operations. Who would believe such rubbish........ oh wait that actually happened didn't it.

No, this would be very very different.

No, they would both be abuse of power if true.

LFC2007 wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:Hold on a second. You made me laugh here. Really. I'm not arguing with you, so why make it out as if I am. I'm not on her preaching theories as if they are truth like they are my own brainchild. .

You are supporting a theory that has no credibility, that is derived from far-left lunatics who falsify evidence and who know nothing about the structural causes for the collapse.

I'm just pointing them out that there is some valid points to be taken seriously from them

I am saying, there is absolutely nothing that can be taken from a conspiracy theory that accuses the U.S. gov't of undertaking a plot to kill its own people.

The structural questions are disputed in as far as [B]the way in which the building collapsed[B] can be disputed to have occurred as a result of different structural weakness, the reason for the collapse however, begins and ends with an aeroplane.

Though you say that I'd be nuts for thinking the American government wouldn't be capable of killing it's own. How do you know they wouldn't? They have done and still do. Just in different forms or methods.

I know that the scope for such a plan to take place is far fetched to the extreme, this is not watergate, this is an accusation of mass genocide without a motive. Since when has the U.S. gov't massacred thousands of its own people on purpose? It hasn't, you would therefore be wrong in your assertion that they have done and continue to do.

And why are you asking me to provide answers to things that I didn't even come up with in the first place. Like I say, I just agree with some of the things, and don't with others. I'm not willing to discredit them. It's just my opinion on the matter.

You suggest that a plot by the US gov't to rig the WTC with explosives is feasible, yet you provide no motive, and will not be able to provide a motive that is anything like feasible. What forms the basis of a conspiracy theory? A MOTIVE.

You mean like the German plot prior to declaring war on Poland?

On the night of August 31, 1939 a small group of German operatives, dressed in Polish uniforms and led by Naujocks[2] seized the Gleiwitz station and broadcast a short anti-German message in Polish (sources vary on the content on the message). The Germans' goal was to make the attack and the broadcast look like the work of anti-German Polish saboteurs.[3][2]

In order to make the attack scene more convincing, the Germans brought in Franciszek Honiok, a German Silesian known for sympathizing with the Poles, who had been arrested the previous day by the Gestapo. Honiok was dressed to look like a saboteur; then killed by lethal injection, given gunshot wounds, and left dead at the scene, so that he appeared to have been killed while attacking the station. His corpse was subsequently presented as proof of the attack to the police and press.[4]

In addition to Honiok, several other convicts from the Dachau concentration camp[2] were kept available for this purpose.[3] The Germans referred to them by the code phrase "Konserve" ("canned goods"). For this reason some sources incorrectly refer to the incident as "Operation Canned Goods".[5]


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The Gleiwitz incident was only a part of a larger operation, carried out by Abwehr and SS forces.[3] At the same time as the Gleiwitz attack there were other incidents orchestrated by Germany along the Polish-German border, such as house torching in the Polish Corridor and spurious propaganda output. The entire project, dubbed Operation Himmler and comprising 21 incidents in all,[6] was intended to give the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany.[5]

red37 wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:Seeing that it's Halloween soon, who believes in ghosts? What about UFO's?

Don't even go there...