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s@int wrote:Reina

Finnan     Carra      Agger           Riise

Pennant  Gerrard    Mascherano  Kewell

                 new creative second striker
                           Torres

I think "absence makes the heart grow fonder" applies to Alonso at the moment, which means everyone should just LOVE Kewell. I don't think any of our strikers apart from Torres is good enough unfortunately. I don't think the twenty goal a season Kuyt is ever going to emerge, Crouch seems to have accepted he's on his way out, and Veronin, while not the pile of cr@p I expected is no-where near good enough for a best eleven. 

I would be just as happy with Gerrard on the right and Alonso slotting back into the centre if we had the right second striker, with Kuyt playing that role I think we might struggle without the drive of Gerrard from the centre.

Disagree we need a creative striker! For me, the good old fashioned target man with a bit of vision who'll get you 20 goals a season.



We need a goal threat aswell as Torres, Gerrard and Riise.

Lando_Griffin wrote:Isn't it amazing how everyone to a man now has Alonso in their first-choice line-up...

........................ Reina

  Finnan      Carragher   Agger    Arbeloa

  Pennant     Mascha    Gerrard   Kewell

                   Babel     Torres

Amazing hey Lando. 

Smeg wrote:Disagree we need a creative striker! For me, the good old fashioned target man with a bit of vision who'll get you 20 goals a season.

Smeg wrote:

s@int wrote:Reina

Finnan     Carra      Agger           Riise

Pennant  Gerrard    Mascherano  Kewell

                 new creative second striker
                           Torres

I think "absence makes the heart grow fonder" applies to Alonso at the moment, which means everyone should just LOVE Kewell. I don't think any of our strikers apart from Torres is good enough unfortunately. I don't think the twenty goal a season Kuyt is ever going to emerge, Crouch seems to have accepted he's on his way out, and Veronin, while not the pile of cr@p I expected is no-where near good enough for a best eleven. 

I would be just as happy with Gerrard on the right and Alonso slotting back into the centre if we had the right second striker, with Kuyt playing that role I think we might struggle without the drive of Gerrard from the centre.

Disagree we need a creative striker! For me, the good old fashioned target man with a bit of vision who'll get you 20 goals a season.



We need a goal threat aswell as Torres, Gerrard and Riise.

I think its time you accepted that Ashton/Anelka are not going to come now mate   . Someone who can get 10/15 goals while adding more creativity to the team would be ideal. Admittedly its a lot to ask but I think there are players out there that could do it.

I have been hearing good things about Diego since he moved to Germany, a bit small but he looked good at Santos, although he did flop in Portugal.

Elano looked good for Man City last week as well.

Smeg wrote:

The_Rock wrote:This would be my team

                  Reina
  Finnan   Carra   Agger  Arbeloa
  Benayoun  Mash Alonso  Kewell
           Gerrard   
                          Torres

This team will scrap every team in the planet 1-0.... 

Another one who wants to play our best player out of position. You got to love Newkit!

So as long as gerrard ain't played as a CM he is played out of position


Wake up.....Gerrard always goes missing against the big teams when he plays CM.

Gerrard best position is a free role....(ie..he has license to roam around the pitch)....And what better position than a support striker.

The_Rock wrote:

Smeg wrote:

The_Rock wrote:This would be my team

                  Reina
  Finnan   Carra   Agger  Arbeloa
  Benayoun  Mash Alonso  Kewell
           Gerrard   
                          Torres

This team will scrap every team in the planet 1-0.... 

Another one who wants to play our best player out of position. You got to love Newkit!

So as long as gerrard ain't played as a CM he is played out of position


Wake up.....Gerrard always goes missing against the big teams when he plays CM.

Gerrard best position is a free role....(ie..he has license to roam around the pitch)....And what better position than a support striker.

The_Rock wrote:

Smeg wrote:

The_Rock wrote:This would be my team

                  Reina
  Finnan   Carra   Agger  Arbeloa
  Benayoun  Mash Alonso  Kewell
           Gerrard   
                          Torres

This team will scrap every team in the planet 1-0.... 

Another one who wants to play our best player out of position. You got to love Newkit!

So as long as gerrard ain't played as a CM he is played out of position


Wake up.....Gerrard always goes missing against the big teams when he plays CM.

Gerrard best position is a free role....(ie..he has license to roam around the pitch)....And what better position than a support striker.

redtrader74 wrote:

The_Rock wrote:

Smeg wrote:

The_Rock wrote:This would be my team

                  Reina
  Finnan   Carra   Agger  Arbeloa
  Benayoun  Mash Alonso  Kewell
           Gerrard   
                          Torres

This team will scrap every team in the planet 1-0.... 

Another one who wants to play our best player out of position. You got to love Newkit!

So as long as gerrard ain't played as a CM he is played out of position


Wake up.....Gerrard always goes missing against the big teams when he plays CM.

Gerrard best position is a free role....(ie..he has license to roam around the pitch)....And what better position than a support striker.

Gerrard is rubbish played as a second striker, he can't do it, he is not technically good enough. You need excellent vision, quick feet and a trick or two to play there, which he doesn't possess.

He is what he is, a world class midfielder, the only role i would play him other than CM is at right midfield, where he has performed.

Smeg wrote:

Leonmc0708 wrote:

Smeg wrote:John Arne Riise: People bang on about his long balls and say he can't defend. Rubbish, he can defend. Ok he's no Maldini or even Finnan, but he's solid enough, can win a header, put a tackle in and generally does a decent job. He's also capable of scoring a goal and overlapping should the player infront of him actually have any quality. He clearly players ALOT better when Harry Kewell is infront of him. He's a useful squad player at worst due to his versatility.

Stu mate, I know you are right on a couple of things here, but why are you championing an overweight average defender who cant run, cant pass and gets away with it for 20 games with a goal every 25 games ?

Smeg wrote:Alvaro Arbeloa: Good squad player who can fill in anywhere across the back four. Under no circumstances though should he be a first choice. He lacks the ability on the ball and lacks the intelligence to overlap. One of my main critisism's of Finnan in comparrison to Babbel was that Babbel used to fly, up and down the wing, Finnan doesn't do it enough, Arbeloa even less so. For more proof, watch the Birmingham game were we actually missed Finnan's overlaps, he overlapped Pennant once because Pennant screamed at him to do so. Still, fine where he is as a backup full back.

This lad has been the best of our back four this season, FACT.

Smeg wrote:Sami Hyypia: Still for me a better player than Agger and by quite a distance. People often accuse Sami of aimless hoofs, from what I've seen of him over the years I disagree, he tends to hoof when the midfield don't show for the ball. Alonso, takes the ball of Hyypia alot from the defence and I firmly believe that not having a natural left winger and Alonso not in the side often leaves Sami short of options other than to hoof the ball. At the end of the day, he's still the strongest and most arially dominant centre half we have, by some distance.

Hyypia has never been able to play a pass, not just in the last two seasons when his pace went. I can only assume what you have seen over the years has been highlights lad.

He is the best in the air, but he turns liek an oil tanker and has lost any pace he ever had.

How am I championing Riise? I'm simply stating the obvious.

Your statement about Arbeloa is absoloute fact is it? Get real. In your opinion. Nicky Butt was Englands best midfield "performer" in the 2002 world cup, does that mean he was good enough to play every game?

The fact is, he's played well and battled hard, he's a decent player playing to his best, which is ok. I don't judge a player on form though, never have, never will. Form is temporary, class is permanent. You of all people should know that.

Hyypia's never had pace and don't sit there an chat rubbish about him not being able to pass. Try bloody watching the game instead of trying to sound like a know it all cliche spouting happy clappy.