Conspiracy theories - More european crowd trouble

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Postby Ciggy » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:48 am

Well Ive been thinking it for weeks and I agree.
Platini wants 3 english teams to enter the CL, he has his perfect excuse now.
What p.issed me off about the mancs and Spurs fans the amount of english banners they had, I mean FFS if your going to watch your club its got feck all to do with England.
These banner give us a terrible name because of the english hooligan element.

No body and I mean this NO one in the world apart from english people will blame the spanish police or the Itie police.
They will just blame english people in general we have a terrible reputation unfortunatly.

The mancs charged the perplex barrier they should'nt have done it if you retaliate in Europe your asking for trouble.
Thats just the way it is.

Our fans get missiles thrown at them they got stabbed in Roma in 2001, also battered by the bizzies.
Not let onto buses or in taxis, they couldnt get back to their hotels.
The embassy had to send special buses to collect them.

What has also p.issed me right off is the amount of abusive songs sang by both Evertonains and Mancs reguarding Heysel.
It could have been any club.
Them Ultra's dont give a sh.it about innocents getting injured in the heat of things.

The Juve fans caused Heysel, the fella firing a gun, they had scarves around their faces, they where throwing things, swinging big metal chains, steel sticks,they battered a 12 year old Liverpool fan.
The police came in heavy handed there aswell the Liverpool fans charged that wall like the mancs charged that barrier the other night, the same thing could have happened again.

But now the mancs have had a taste of it, it wont matter they will still sing "WITHOUT KILLING ANYONE, WE WON IT TWO TIMES'' tonight against Pompey.

And 39 Italians.

It could have been any english club playing in that crumbeling old stadium in Brussels with the same consequences.

But lets just sing songs about the dead hey to get one over on Liverpool.
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:23 am

Well, if the Man Utd fans want to get technical, we won it five times without killing anyone.

We lost the Heysel final.
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Postby Ciggy » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:50 am

Notice the media havent showed this vid, deserved everything they got.

http://mediacenter.corriere.it/MediaCe....a99c53b
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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:38 am

Sky sports  reporter Claire Tomlinson says she was at the spurs game with some friends and decided to leave when the trouble started . They were making their way out of the stadium when completely unprovoked they were attacked by Spanish police, the two fella's she was with got a right beating .

Don't see that she has any reason to lie . My take is that local policing in both Italy and Spain although not entirely to blame were certainly massively at fault.
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Postby JBG » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:21 pm

BarryBelfast wrote:No its not a sarcastic response...its the way i see it!

I grew up in Belfast and was sick seeing people on TV complaining that their son was injured or killed while rioting.Their poor son was bludgened or killed by a plastic bullet.....I never had any sympathy for any of them..sorry!
Its simple,if you dont want to get hurt...DONT RIOT!
Unfortunately some are to thick to grasp this!

There's a difference between rioting at football matches and rioting for socio-economic-political reasons, a big difference. You cannot compare them, they are not like for like.
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Postby 66-1120597113 » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:31 pm

JBG wrote:
BarryBelfast wrote:No its not a sarcastic response...its the way i see it!

I grew up in Belfast and was sick seeing people on TV complaining that their son was injured or killed while rioting.Their poor son was bludgened or killed by a plastic bullet.....I never had any sympathy for any of them..sorry!
Its simple,if you dont want to get hurt...DONT RIOT!
Unfortunately some are to thick to grasp this!

There's a difference between rioting at football matches and rioting for socio-economic-political reasons, a big difference. You cannot compare them, they are not like for like.

Of course there are different reasons thats obvious!

The point i am making is though that rioting is wrong and stupid for whatever reasons.
What i am saying if someone is rioting they cant complain after when they need 40 stitches..its tough sh.it!

As for the fans that got caught up in it,unfortunately thats collateral damage and if their 'fellow fans' had not kicked off in the first instance it would not have occured!
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