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by **Anfield rapper** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:16 pm

FrankM wrote:It would appear to me that Morgan and Granada had a big say in this decision.

Incidentally once they have withdrawn from the process DIC apparently could not make another offer for six months, which really gives Gillett the upper hand.

Rumours today are that DIC may now look at the barcodes as a possible alternative

Where did you hear that?

by **stmichael** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:35 pm

It smacks of them trying to squeeze a few extra pennies out of DIC, having had their heads turned by the 'generous' Gillett offer. It, frankly, stinks, as Gillett doesn't seem to have been a contender till he offered to make Moores et al (even) richer than DIC would.

Being a Liverpool supporter has been weird for the last few years. Amongst the incredible highs, there have been some nonsensical decisions both on and off the pitch. The strangest part of all is that the relentlessly negative people that inhabit (and used to inhabit) this and other forums, have, by and large, been proved right on a number of occasions: Houllier arguably did outstay his welcome, and now Moores and Parry seem to have revealed themselves to be the dithering f#ckwits that some always claimed them to be. Even if the DIC deal is resurrected, they need shooting for coming so close to ballsing it up. I still think that the negative among us fail to grasp the romance of the football, that an element of blind faith is part of what makes the game great, but I may just listen a bit more to them in the future. I stress may.

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:51 pm

Now is the time when Rick Parry has to earn his wages, go back to DIC and get it sorted once and for all. Things should never have been allowed to get to this stage just because a few people put money before the welfare and well being of Liverpool fc.

The Gillett bid would have been most welcome when we seemed to be struggling to find a buyer but once DIC came in as the preferred bidder they should have moved heaven and earth to secure the deal. I would hate to see Newcastle reap the benefits that should be ours.

by **FrankM** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:53 pm

Anfield rapper wrote:
FrankM wrote:It would appear to me that Morgan and Granada had a big say in this decision.

Incidentally once they have withdrawn from the process DIC apparently could not make another offer for six months, which really gives Gillett the upper hand.

Rumours today are that DIC may now look at the barcodes as a possible alternative

Where did you hear that?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/6319535.stm

Its from the Daily Mail apparently.

On the BBC rumours teletext page.

Probably a load of you know what. But a rumour nevertheless.

by **jymbojetset** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:16 pm

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0500liverpoolfc/0100news/tm_headline=gillett%2D-the-perfect-choice-for-reds-orbest-a-club-can-get%2D%26method=full%26objectid=18560409%26siteid=50061-name_page.html

For all the people who are jumping up and down (myslef included) wondering what is going on, this article gives a different outlook.

by **112-1077774096** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:21 pm

st mick, instead of saying the 'negative people', why dont you just say many people have been proved right, its not negativity mate, its having the ability to see through the rose tinted spectacles and see our club for what it really is.

all is not well and hasnt been well for some time, i have always said that. of course i have celebrated the good times, but always in the knowledge that behind the scenes all is not perfect like some people on here seem to think.

by **Rimetto_** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:23 pm

REDTILLDEAD wrote:
murphy0151 wrote:At the end of the day we asked the DIC if they could wait for just less than a week before we gave them a final decision. For me they couldnt of wanted us enough if they arent willing to wait another week.

Some mothers do ave em dont they? To suggest a protest over this is way over the top.

To do nothing is to condone the sellout to the yank!...Oh my god another one that needs to "wake up and smell the coffee" doh!!

i'm not happy with what's going on off the pitch but surely as fans our job is to get behind the team and let the powers that be do their job.

The team are flying at the moment and we have a score to settle at the weekend with the blue nose bastrdo's. So we need to be there in full voice behind the club not taking the players mind off the game by protesting.

Liverpool football Club is not a club that turns on it's board or managers.

by **Redman in wales** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:34 pm

jymbojetset wrote:http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0500liverpoolfc/0100news/tm_headline=gillett%2D-the-perfect-choice-for-reds-orbest-a-club-can-get%2D%26method=full%26objectid=18560409%26siteid=50061-name_page.html

For all the people who are jumping up and down (myslef included) wondering what is going on, this article gives a different outlook.

interesting article but have this feeling articals like this are part of a ploy to get fans on board after they cocked-up. after all liverpool did not announce they were turning down DIC, it was DIC who announced they pulled out.

In the article it states:
"Gillett’s due diligence process took just three days. Gillett, Liverpool fans are being told, ticks all the right boxes after all. Ignore all the negativity when the club wanted someone else, the American isn’t so bad.

That’s the new message fans are urged to consume today."

and also:

"Chairman Moores and his board earned hearty congratulation after the DIC announcement.

It seemed years of trust in the hierarchy was paying dividends. There was no grand appeal for support necessary for the majority of Liverpool fans, who willingly accept the notion the chairman only wants the best for the club.

With Liverpool now claiming Gillett is the favoured option – no matter how beneficial it may seem – the leap of faith demanded from fans is monumental. The PR drive will have to be ferocious."

and then the article also says:
"Six weeks on, DIC’s move was significantly different from what Liverpool expected. In fact, they made no bid, instead presenting an “expression of interest”."

but other sourses say DIC DID make a bid, and it was rejected by liverpool, who wanted more time to look at Gillettes higher second offer"

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So i gather there will be a lot of statements and stories released now about how Gillette's bid is the best for us

by **Anfield rapper** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:13 pm

I think Gillett is just trying to promise anything it takes to buy us. A few days ago he wanted us to share with Everton but how all of a sudden he realises the fans aren't happy its "ok you want your own stadium no problem". Well which is it? How can you go from one position to another on something so important as that in the space of a couple of days. I think its because he knows he can promise us whatever we want because its not his money that will be used at the end of the day. He's worth £500m and that ain't much in football. I can see us being loaned up to the eyeballs for everything he promises and to be honest it scares me a bit.

by **stmichael** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:33 pm

just heard on the radio that there's another party interested in the takeover now. some irish guy who's a box holder at anfield apparently.

by **Leonmc0708** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:44 pm

Anfield rapper wrote:I think Gillett is just trying to promise anything it takes to buy us. A few days ago he wanted us to share with Everton but how all of a sudden he realises the fans aren't happy its "ok you want your own stadium no problem". Well which is it? How can you go from one position to another on something so important as that in the space of a couple of days. I think its because he knows he can promise us whatever we want because its not his money that will be used at the end of the day. He's worth £500m and that ain't much in football. I can see us being loaned up to the eyeballs for everything he promises and to be honest it scares me a bit.

The first two words of your post are the important ones.

Everyone who comments on Internet Forums right now is summising, thinking, assuming, guessing, wondering or reckoning and NO ONE has the correct information. *

*Disclaimer - that is unless George Gillet, Hamdan Al Maktoum, David Moores, Rick Parry or Al ansari are members of this or another forum.

by **Pedro Maradona** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:44 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:
Elchris wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:
RedorDead wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:A lot of people are going to feel very silly readign this thread i nteh next week or so.

Calm Down Calm Down

I think you are very right, people are just coming out with so much dross when the simple fact is that none of us know exactly what is happening. Personally speaking I think Moores and Parry have only ever acted in the best interests of our club, they have made mistakes but have never acted wrecklessly or been so wide of the mark that serious harm has come of it. A little trust is needed i think. Very few of us know what it takes to run a football club, our job is to SUPPORT the club through thick and thin and in situations like ours where we have an experienced and trustworthy board we need to let them get on with it.
Some on here go on about how Man Utd were in uproar when the Glazers took over, and you're right there was a furore like never before and the fans were scared and angry.....those same fans now are singing loud and proud every week as their team sits atop the premier league.

What I am trying to say in a very long winded fashion is: Let's just wait and see before going off on one.

thats not true.....from what i hear there is a big possibility of ronaldo being sold for massive cash to clear the bank loans glazier owes on the utd deal......id hate to see a similar scenario evolving in the future with our star players

where u heard bout this

richard kurt, he writes in a utd fanzine and has a weekly article in an irish broadsheet newspaper for the last 5 years(steven kelly from RWA writes a similar Liverpool FC based article in the same paper). he is usually on the ball in what he writes....he was basing it on a question that david gill was asked during the week about a bid of 75 million euro by real madrid. Gill denied it saying Utd would definately not be selling ronaldo at any price. Gill was then asked if that was Glaziers position on the matter and he said that he was pretty sure that that would be Mr Glaziers position aswell......a slightly different answer to the first question...... so im not just posting it for the sake of posting it so i wouldnt be writing off as sh1t just because you havent heard about it....u patronising tw*t

You need to dry your eyes mate.

You say Gillett knows nothing about LFC and "the football environment" but what does DIC know?

Like I said before the only contact to sport Sheik Mohammed has is racehorses. Shit arguement really! At the end of the day investors are investors, they provide money and are in it for the money. The manager, players and coaching staff make the team and provide success not the owners.

To quote the BBC article "DIC saw this as business enterprise but Gillett has told Liverpool that they are a sports franchise and they know how to run sports operations".

I truly feel running with a sports franchise who are experienced keeping clubs financially successful and stable is the way forward. And in that sense the DIC offer was riskier than the Gillete bid. Gillete will bring sound business knowledge from a sporting market not some bloke (DIC) who has shares in The London Eye, Maddam Tussauds, Travelodge and owns a few racehorses.

Think also of the revenue available in the states, where arguably the market is most buoyant and has massive potential in the next few years, surely Gillete can tap into that market far easier that DIC??

thats your opinion and your entitled to it, but hey if u want to support a franchise away with u mate....
These are my twopence worth for what its worth, I have big issue with the environment where gillett has made his money on sports ie. the dolphins, the globetrotters, and the canadiens.... this guy Gillett is coming from an sports enviroment that give so little thought to the supporters that they moves "franchises" from one US city to another i.e. in baseball the brooklyn dodgers were relocated to Los angeles, in american football there are also similar relocations aswell houston oilers i think being one example. Even Robert Kraft the owner of the New England patriots (who incidently was being touted as a possible buyer of Liverpol last year when Moores and Parry were out on a "factfinding mission in New England") threatened to move the patriots out of the environs of Boston, MA to Providence in Rhode Island if the political authorities didnt back his plans to build the Gillette stadium at Foxboro where there old stadium was located. Needless to say they backed down in the end. (if any American...and i hope they dont ... was to buy Liverpool id hope it would be Kraft as he has a proven track record turning one of the weakest teams in the NFL into a regular superbowl winning side. and He is very very highly regarded as a business man) Now im not trying to say these relocation issues would happen in england but are these the kind of guys u want owning Liverpool Football Cub???
I have no love of the Dubai consortium bid but if i had to choose them or gillett id be going with the ones who have their own cash to buy the club rather than the bloke getting loans to do so.
Ive never been a big fan of David Moores and im slow to have a go at the man until the full facts are out but he is a Liverpool fan through and through something im sure Gillett isnt.
And you say about America being a source of revenue, im not so sure about that, the league is shocking, beckham is being bankrolled by adidas (they sponsor all MLS sides) so dont be fulled into thinking that its getting better there when the like of him are going there. It has a very large grassroots player base already but despite this the games gets no coverage in comparison to the major US sports. they had a world cup there in 94, a poor league there since, the occasional player comes through there and ends up in europe so the game is already popular enough but it will never break the major US sports where the money and the media attention are focused so the idea of the US being a merchandisers dream is imo well off the mark......Again these are simply my thoughts on what is a very important isssue.....
God, remember it wasnt that long ago wen we were nearly bought by that dude from Thailand...... I dunno do I trust Parry/Moores at all now....)

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:51 pm

S@int - Hi Mr Parry, I am interested in buying Liverpool fc.
Parry - I am afraid you will have to answer certain questions so that we know you are the right type of owner
S@int - Thats ok I understand, fire away
Parry - How much are you willing to pay
S@int £5001 per share
Parry - Congratulations you have just bought yourself a football club
S@int - Dont you want to know about my previous history? I did go bankrupt a few years ago.
Parry - Your not bankrupt now are you ? You did say £5001 per share didn't you?
S@int - Yes but I would have to raise the money from loans and to pay it back I would have to raise ticket prices and maybe sell a couple of star players.
Parry - £5001 per share?
S@int - Yes but...
Parry - sold to the gentleman with an asterisk in his name!

by **dward** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:03 pm

s@int wrote:S@int - Hi Mr Parry, I am interested in buying Liverpool fc.
Parry - I am afraid you will have to answer certain questions so that we know you are the right type of owner
S@int - Thats ok I understand, fire away
Parry - How much are you willing to pay
S@int £5001 per share
Parry - Congratulations you have just bought yourself a football club
S@int - Dont you want to know about my previous history? I did go bankrupt a few years ago.
Parry - Your not bankrupt now are you ? You did say £5001 per share didn't you?
S@int - Yes but I would have to raise the money from loans and to pay it back I would have to raise ticket prices and maybe sell a couple of star players.
Parry - £5001 per share?
S@int - Yes but...
Parry - sold to the gentleman with an asterisk in his name!

Sounds like how it works

by **Leonmc0708** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:03 pm

s@int wrote:S@int - Hi Mr Parry, I am interested in buying Liverpool fc.
Parry - I am afraid you will have to answer certain questions so that we know you are the right type of owner
S@int - Thats ok I understand, fire away
Parry - How much are you willing to pay
S@int £5001 per share
Parry - Congratulations you have just bought yourself a football club
S@int - Dont you want to know about my previous history? I did go bankrupt a few years ago.
Parry - Your not bankrupt now are you ? You did say £5001 per share didn't you?
S@int - Yes but I would have to raise the money from loans and to pay it back I would have to raise ticket prices and maybe sell a couple of star players.
Parry - £5001 per share?
S@int - Yes but...
Parry - sold to the gentleman with an asterisk in his name!

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