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by **puroresu** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:24 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:
puroresu wrote:Spurs didnt want to sell carrick but could not turn down a bid that high. Spurs will never let Lennon or King go unless someone is ready to pay big money. Cisse will go to Marseille as long as they agree to pay the fee Liverpool want.

1. Cisse is happy at Marseille and they should make the Champions League this season.

2. Marseille are being bought so the money will be there for Cisse.

3. Cisse owe's Marseille due to the fact they took an injured player on loan and showed faith in him. They could of just waited to Jan but didnt.

4. Aint a serious reason but the Marseille fans are fanatics and if Cisse say's no to them he better be prepared for the backlash. He got death threats last year as they thought he refused to go to the OM last January. When it looked like Ribery was off they went to the training ground to show there disgust at him. I think Houiller would love to get Cisse but no way can Cisse refuse to go to Marseille and sign for Lyon.

5. It can be very easy to think of swap deals but in reality I cant see swap deals happening. Selling Cisse to Marseille and getting Ribery part of the deal would be great but not going to happen.

There is no reason for Cisse to go to Spurs instead of Marseille. Spurs aint going to make the Champions League and they aint as big as Marseille either.

If Cisse would rather play for Marseille than Spurs then he is as stupid as his hairstyles would suggest.
Whether they make the champions league and spurs dont is irrelavent, our league p!sses all over theres and he would be playing for a better side and against better players every week.
I dont care either way to be honest, provided we get something back for him he can play for Vauxhall Motors for all i care.

Thats the same argument people used to use when mid table English sides were after Larsson. Its not just about the league, the size of the club matters as well. Spurs are a top 6 English side where the chance of playing CL football are minimal. Marseille even though they aint won nothing in years are still the biggest club in France, they have 60,000 at every home game (fans who will love him), a club who should qualify for the CL and with the new takeover should be spending some money to try and compete with Lyon. More importantly like I said before Cisse was damaged goods but Marseille still took him on loan. I dont think Cisse will just forget that.

by **Ace Ventura** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:08 pm

kobashi wrote:So what if the league is better? Spurs will never be in the Champions League. Spurs do not play infront of 60,000 fans every home game. if your gonna use the leage argument you might aswell say Juninho should leave Lyon and join West Ham.

Pretty silly don't you think.

it is 99% certain that Cisse will sign for Marseille so all this tottenham talk is a waste of time. If OM qualify for the CL then Ribery and Nasri will stay. new players will come in so why would Djib give that up. the new owner has already said he wants to keep Cisse and Ribery.

Marseille are looking to build the team around Ribery and Cisse.

Spurs may make the champions league, maybe not this season but they have a great young side that play some very good football.
I am not saying that there would not be good reasons to stay at Marseille, if he is playing in front of that many fans every week and they idolise him then i am sure he would love that.
Especially as he is bound to be one of the top scorers in the league, because the standard isn't very good.
It all boils down to ambition, and the Larsson point you made was valid, as he was happy enough to stay, i bet after the season he had playing for Barca at the highest level, he wishes he had moved earlier.
Comparing Spurs with West Ham wasnt accurate either, while Spurs have yet to qualify for the champions league, they are consistently a top 6-8 side and in the Uefa cup.
I actually think if they mey (Marseille and Spurs) over 2 legs it would be a comfortable win for the english side.

by **EddieC** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:28 pm

puroresu wrote:There is no reason for Cisse to go to Spurs instead of Marseille.

Apart from the fact that he's got an English wife & has previously stated that he loves this country. Oh and throw in the fact this is the best paid league to play in.

by **Elchris** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:38 pm

Cisse wont be leavin Marseille except if the new owners dun want him...which i doubt mayb we should look into highy rated nasri.... seen him play a few times seems decent

by **puroresu** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:44 pm

Elchris wrote:Cisse wont be leavin Marseille except if the new owners dun want him...which i doubt mayb we should look into highy rated nasri.... seen him play a few times seems decent

yes very talented player. He has stated he would like to play in England one day but for now his happy at OM. Got a lot of skill just goes missing sometimes and doesnt contribute enough. But his young and loads of potential.

by **ConnO'var** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:53 pm

s@int wrote:Would have to be Lennon for me as he's the only one that would improve the team rather than bolster the squad

ditto.... went for him too..... but King's not a bad shout either methinks....

Will be a cold day in hell when Spurs decide to let either one of them go without anything close to obscene sums of money.... certainly nowhere near the current value of Cisse

by **puroresu** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:04 pm

Would really like King but you are looking at £15 mil minimum.

by **mistyred** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:37 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:If Cisse would rather play for Marseille than Spurs then he is as stupid as his hairstyles would suggest.

Better hairstyle Mohican or a Mop top or Curtains worn by young Lads from Essex, or maybe even a Gothic hair style or a Grunge cut :glare:

What the flippin heck does that have to do with football, Remember Cisse is a Brother where he comes from people probably don't descriminate against hair

by **puroresu** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:55 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:
kobashi wrote:So what if the league is better? Spurs will never be in the Champions League. Spurs do not play infront of 60,000 fans every home game. if your gonna use the leage argument you might aswell say Juninho should leave Lyon and join West Ham.

Pretty silly don't you think.

it is 99% certain that Cisse will sign for Marseille so all this tottenham talk is a waste of time. If OM qualify for the CL then Ribery and Nasri will stay. new players will come in so why would Djib give that up. the new owner has already said he wants to keep Cisse and Ribery.

Marseille are looking to build the team around Ribery and Cisse.

Spurs may make the champions league, maybe not this season but they have a great young side that play some very good football.
I am not saying that there would not be good reasons to stay at Marseille, if he is playing in front of that many fans every week and they idolise him then i am sure he would love that.
Especially as he is bound to be one of the top scorers in the league, because the standard isn't very good.
It all boils down to ambition, and the Larsson point you made was valid, as he was happy enough to stay, i bet after the season he had playing for Barca at the highest level, he wishes he had moved earlier.
Comparing Spurs with West Ham wasnt accurate either, while Spurs have yet to qualify for the champions league, they are consistently a top 6-8 side and in the Uefa cup.
I actually think if they mey (Marseille and Spurs) over 2 legs it would be a comfortable win for the english side.

Maybe so but Henrik would never of left Celtic for smaller club. He was idolised, got CL Football, family settled and won plenty of medals. He then goes to a bigger club in Barcelona and wins 2 titles and a CL medal. I dont think he would want it any other way.

by **Ace Ventura** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:02 pm

mistyred wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:If Cisse would rather play for Marseille than Spurs then he is as stupid as his hairstyles would suggest.

Better hairstyle Mohican or a Mop top or Curtains worn by young Lads from Essex, or maybe even a Gothic hair style or a Grunge cut What the flippin heck does that have to do with football, Remember Cisse is a Brother where he comes from people probably don't descriminate against hair

The fact that he spent more time chaging his hairstyles than working on his glaringly obvious weakness says alot actually.
He is not my brother btw.

by **Ace Ventura** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:06 pm

puroresu wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
kobashi wrote:So what if the league is better? Spurs will never be in the Champions League. Spurs do not play infront of 60,000 fans every home game. if your gonna use the leage argument you might aswell say Juninho should leave Lyon and join West Ham.

Pretty silly don't you think.

it is 99% certain that Cisse will sign for Marseille so all this tottenham talk is a waste of time. If OM qualify for the CL then Ribery and Nasri will stay. new players will come in so why would Djib give that up. the new owner has already said he wants to keep Cisse and Ribery.

Marseille are looking to build the team around Ribery and Cisse.

Spurs may make the champions league, maybe not this season but they have a great young side that play some very good football.
I am not saying that there would not be good reasons to stay at Marseille, if he is playing in front of that many fans every week and they idolise him then i am sure he would love that.
Especially as he is bound to be one of the top scorers in the league, because the standard isn't very good.
It all boils down to ambition, and the Larsson point you made was valid, as he was happy enough to stay, i bet after the season he had playing for Barca at the highest level, he wishes he had moved earlier.
Comparing Spurs with West Ham wasnt accurate either, while Spurs have yet to qualify for the champions league, they are consistently a top 6-8 side and in the Uefa cup.
I actually think if they mey (Marseille and Spurs) over 2 legs it would be a comfortable win for the english side.

Maybe so but Henrik would never of left Celtic for smaller club. He was idolised, got CL Football, family settled and won plenty of medals. He then goes to a bigger club in Barcelona and wins 2 titles and a CL medal. I dont think he would want it any other way.

Yeah but Cisse isnt at a bigger club than Spurs, he is at an average french club, the amount of fans they have is only part of the make-up of a big club.
Spurs are a better side with better players, Marseille may be taken over and end up having money to spend but they will still play in a league that is inferior to ours with less big games a season.
I think he may feel he owes Marseille for the oppurtunity they have given him, but i wouldnt be surprised at all if he left and chose the Premiership again.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:12 pm

I'd like to see King here - he'd give us some much-needed pace to our back line.

That, and the fact that he's a cracking, aerially dominant young CB.

by **Graeme Noble** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:24 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:
Graeme Noble wrote:Cisse and Lennon have about the same qualities. I know most of you don't like Cisse but he is a good player. Just look at him banging them in at Marseilles.

You constantly slag off Crouch but rate Cisse, i know you are basing it on goals to minutes on the pitch, but look at the bigger picture.
Crouch is a far better footballer to the athlete.

I don't constantly slag off Crouch. He is a decent player, I just don't think he is good enough for Liverpool FC. I think Cisse is the better player, he scores more goals, has more pace, can actually put power behind his headers and is a good crosser of the ball.

by **A.B.** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:39 pm

Graeme Noble wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Graeme Noble wrote:Cisse and Lennon have about the same qualities. I know most of you don't like Cisse but he is a good player. Just look at him banging them in at Marseilles.

You constantly slag off Crouch but rate Cisse, i know you are basing it on goals to minutes on the pitch, but look at the bigger picture.
Crouch is a far better footballer to the athlete.

I don't constantly slag off Crouch. He is a decent player, I just don't think he is good enough for Liverpool FC. I think Cisse is the better player, he scores more goals, has more pace, can actually put power behind his headers and is a good crosser of the ball.

Pass the crack pipe.

When did speed alone make a footballer a good footballer? He doesn't know how to use his pace. Kick and go fetch is Cisse's way of using his pace.

Crouch has better movement,better link up play, better awareness, better ball control [you know the thing that Cisse doesn't have at all]. The one area Cisse is better than Crouch is power, he has a powerful shot.

I've never seen Cisse attempt to head a ball at this club so I can't comment how he is in the air.

by **Elchris** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:17 pm

most of us dont rate cisse cause benitez does not rate him..if cisse was in rafa good book i think we'll love cisse n rate him more higher...and since we all love benitez ..follow...
and comparing cisse with crouch...both are very different type of player cisse is like a fox in the box wherelse crouch is more like a target man...if given the chance no doubt cisse will score more because he's job is only to do that score goals..in my opinion rafa should had given more time for cisse but those damned injuries din help...nowdays we pass the ball around to much and can't find the killer finish especially with the big clubs...and i think cisse could have made a difference there

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