St. georges day

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Postby The Ace1983 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:00 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
The Ace1983 wrote:It does sound like you are suggesting that it is his scottishness which makes him favor devolution and makes him a :censored:. And this isn't the first time that a dodgy comment about Islam has appeared in one of your posts. You did call it a "crack pot" religion the other day.

If I'm mistaken I will be more tha happy to retract the statement, but I fear that won't happen.

I think, if you read back, you will find I was referring to Bin Laden's taint on Islam, and not the true religon itself.
And I am sorry, but any religon which thinks killing is a good thing IS "c*ck-eyed" in my book. (And "c*ck-eyed", where I come from, means bent or rather "not straight". (As in: "That picture on the wall is c*ck-eyed".)

I have absolutely nothing against any religon, provided it doesn't try to justify mass genocide.

I have no problem with Muslims, other than the ones who bitch and moan about our national practises, such as a butcher hanging a pig in the window.
I do not try to stop people of differing beliefs from putting rice in their hair, or wailing to a wall, or even being Baptised.

SO why should followers of other religons be able to change all our ways to accomodate them, even though they come here to avoid being murdered in their own countries? As a nation, we are doing them a favour, are we not?

It just doesn't make sense to me, or the Muslim, Pakistani and  Indian friends I have. They all think that it's absurd aswell.

I am not a racist, that I can promise you. I just say it as it is, or at least how I see it.
If more people did that, the World would be a much safer place.

Then I retract my statement and apologise for misunderstanding.
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Postby Woollyback » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:15 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Woollyback wrote:i thought blair was a geordie? anyway who cares he's definitely a w@nker, that's for sure

st george f*cked up this year and had his day on a sunday when everybody's got work in the morning, at least paddy had the sense to do friday :D

geordies: my dad used to say they're "just scotsmen with their brains bashed oot" :laugh:

He was born in Edinburgh mate.

Lived in Durham for a while though.

still a cunt  :nod
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Postby taff » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:15 pm

Landos in your face style at first seems a bit over the top but on second reading I have to agree with him.

There is at this moment in time a swing towards extremism in this country. People feel that we are losing the English/British way of life. Ok this tends to happen with immigration and historically there has always been conflict but the worrying thing for me is people are genuinely feeling disillusioned and nobody seems to be doing anything about it.

Personally I hate racism and tend to avoid nationalist debates if i can but it seems to me that the govt is not listening to the majority hence the reports of BNP support on the increase.  I think people react wrong with a lot of issues but if its the way they feel then you have to counteract it and listen to them.

Why cant we in this country have a happy balance where using St George as an example, England should celebrate its past and history. It has contributed greatly to the world today both good and bad, but mostly good.  But also celebrate what modern England / Britain is all about and embrace and welcome all the cultures that have enhanced society.

Being Welsh I m noy that bothered about St George but Ive spent ten years of my life in england and have English friends and am amazed with the lack of celebration as they are scared of a backlash.  Well the backlash works both ways and the English must be fed up as well but nobody seems to be that bothered about them.

Using wales as an example.  We have the same issues as England, but the Welsh language and culture is promoted a lot here, maybe not enough in some peoples views.  All immigrants of all colour and persuasion are taught Welsh language and culture in schools. It hasnt always been that way but it is now.  And guess what. 

Nobody is offended by it. In fact people seem pleased that their children are embracing it. 

Oh and one more thing. I think Tony Blair aint that bad and history in the long term will be kind to him
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:31 pm

taff wrote:Landos in your face style at first seems a bit over the top but on second reading I have to agree with him.

There is at this moment in time a swing towards extremism in this country. People feel that we are losing the English/British way of life. Ok this tends to happen with immigration and historically there has always been conflict but the worrying thing for me is people are genuinely feeling disillusioned and nobody seems to be doing anything about it.

Personally I hate racism and tend to avoid nationalist debates if i can but it seems to me that the govt is not listening to the majority hence the reports of BNP support on the increase.  I think people react wrong with a lot of issues but if its the way they feel then you have to counteract it and listen to them.

Why cant we in this country have a happy balance where using St George as an example, England should celebrate its past and history. It has contributed greatly to the world today both good and bad, but mostly good.  But also celebrate what modern England / Britain is all about and embrace and welcome all the cultures that have enhanced society.

Being Welsh I m noy that bothered about St George but Ive spent ten years of my life in england and have English friends and am amazed with the lack of celebration as they are scared of a backlash.  Well the backlash works both ways and the English must be fed up as well but nobody seems to be that bothered about them.

Using wales as an example.  We have the same issues as England, but the Welsh language and culture is promoted a lot here, maybe not enough in some peoples views.  All immigrants of all colour and persuasion are taught Welsh language and culture in schools. It hasnt always been that way but it is now.  And guess what. 

Nobody is offended by it. In fact people seem pleased that their children are embracing it. 

Oh and one more thing. I think Tony Blair aint that bad and history in the long term will be kind to him

Good post, and spoken from a Welshman  :D

Happy St. Georges day  :)
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Postby Big Niall » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:22 pm

I think the reason St Georges day hasn't really made a big impact in England is that the English identity is unclear. I don't think this is because of foreigners (was it a big day 40 years ago?). I think it is because a lot of English people think of themselves as British, I've often seen Union jacks at England games. Scots and Welsh seem to more of a national identity as England is obviously the main player in Britain.
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Postby dawson99 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:47 pm

st george himself is actually persian or something isnt he?
im proud to be english, i wave the flag.. but sunday i was comotose from saturday so didnt really celebrate it this year sorry to say.
every english man should be as proud to english as the irish are to be irish, the scots to be scottish and so on...
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:59 pm

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Lando_Griffin wrote:
The Ace1983 wrote:It does sound like you are suggesting that it is his scottishness which makes him favor devolution and makes him a :censored:. And this isn't the first time that a dodgy comment about Islam has appeared in one of your posts. You did call it a "crack pot" religion the other day.

If I'm mistaken I will be more tha happy to retract the statement, but I fear that won't happen.

I think, if you read back, you will find I was referring to Bin Laden's taint on Islam, and not the true religon itself.
And I am sorry, but any religon which thinks killing is a good thing IS "c*ck-eyed" in my book. (And "c*ck-eyed", where I come from, means bent or rather "not straight". (As in: "That picture on the wall is c*ck-eyed".)

I have absolutely nothing against any religon, provided it doesn't try to justify mass genocide.

I have no problem with Muslims, other than the ones who bitch and moan about our national practises, such as a butcher hanging a pig in the window.
I do not try to stop people of differing beliefs from putting rice in their hair, or wailing to a wall, or even being Baptised.

SO why should followers of other religons be able to change all our ways to accomodate them, even though they come here to avoid being murdered in their own countries? As a nation, we are doing them a favour, are we not?

It just doesn't make sense to me, or the Muslim, Pakistani and  Indian friends I have. They all think that it's absurd aswell.

I am not a racist, that I can promise you. I just say it as it is, or at least how I see it.
If more people did that, the World would be a much safer place.

Then I retract my statement and apologise for misunderstanding.

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Postby Lando_Griffin » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:00 pm

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Lando_Griffin wrote:
The Ace1983 wrote:It does sound like you are suggesting that it is his scottishness which makes him favor devolution and makes him a :censored:. And this isn't the first time that a dodgy comment about Islam has appeared in one of your posts. You did call it a "crack pot" religion the other day.

If I'm mistaken I will be more tha happy to retract the statement, but I fear that won't happen.

I think, if you read back, you will find I was referring to Bin Laden's taint on Islam, and not the true religon itself.
And I am sorry, but any religon which thinks killing is a good thing IS "c*ck-eyed" in my book. (And "c*ck-eyed", where I come from, means bent or rather "not straight". (As in: "That picture on the wall is c*ck-eyed".)

I have absolutely nothing against any religon, provided it doesn't try to justify mass genocide.

I have no problem with Muslims, other than the ones who bitch and moan about our national practises, such as a butcher hanging a pig in the window.
I do not try to stop people of differing beliefs from putting rice in their hair, or wailing to a wall, or even being Baptised.

SO why should followers of other religons be able to change all our ways to accomodate them, even though they come here to avoid being murdered in their own countries? As a nation, we are doing them a favour, are we not?

It just doesn't make sense to me, or the Muslim, Pakistani and  Indian friends I have. They all think that it's absurd aswell.

I am not a racist, that I can promise you. I just say it as it is, or at least how I see it.
If more people did that, the World would be a much safer place.

Then I retract my statement and apologise for misunderstanding.

Bleedin' double posts!!!!!  :angry:  :D
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Postby The Ace1983 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:02 pm

My Pleasure. And here's to St. George.
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Postby Big Niall » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:30 pm

I remember a comedian saying that not only did Saint Patrick banish the snakes from Ireland but he also banished all evidence that there ever were snakes in Ireland and also how about the welsh saint (can't think of his name?) who slayed a dragon. "what did you have to do to become a Saint in the old days, be the biggest bull$shitter in town?" :eyebrow
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Postby taff » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:33 pm

St David and he didnt slay a dragon. In fact he was Irish and St Patrick was Welsh go figure that out  :oh:
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Postby Igor Zidane » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:34 pm

Big Niall wrote:I remember a comedian saying that not only did Saint Patrick banish the snakes from Ireland but he also banished all evidence that there ever were snakes in Ireland and also how about the welsh saint (can't think of his name?) who slayed a dragon. "what did you have to do to become a Saint in the old days, be the biggest bull$shitter in town?" :eyebrow

The welsh saint is David and he didn't slaye the dragon that was st george.  David pressed Daffodilles or something.
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Postby dawson99 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:12 pm

david is the only gay in the saints gang..thats fact
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Postby taff » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:17 pm

Our secret shame  :oh:
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Postby dawson99 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:22 pm

i never knew u were welsh taff :laugh:
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