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by **badradio** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:53 am

Ace Ventura, sorry but you have no idea what you're saying. I'm did not mention 'other championships', I only wrote about the portuguese league. In our league the biggest teams simply don't have space to play.. Every foreigner that signs for a portuguese team says that... Besides that, when they manage to get some space they are fouled all the time. The smaller teams defend very well and pressure very hard the opponents. It's VERY hard to score in our league...it's not like the dutch... For example, Porto was 2nd last season with 39 goals in 34 matches. Benfica won the championship with 51 goals...

It's interesting you saying that there's no space given on the Premiership because here in Portugal most of the people think that our teams do so well against the bristish ones because you don't press very much...You let play... And I agree with it...we could never had that space in our league. We played against WBA early this season, with a lot of reserve and youth players and it was like a highway...6-0 or something like that. I also remember beating Coventry (when they where a Premiership side) for 7-0. So, I don't think that our players have space against english teams because they play on counter attack. When we play against smaller teams it's not hard to beat them..

Who posted that our league is almost as good as the albanian one, maybe you should take a look on the matches betwen Portugal and England and portuguese and english teams in the last decade;) Alex Ferguson also said something like that and ended beated by FC Porto, Sporting and Benfica.

In my opinion the Premiership is the most interesting league but it's not because of the players/teams. You have not the best players, not even close... You simply have the best fans in the world. Can't compete with your passion/love and loyalty to your home clubs...and that's what make the Premiership so amazing. I'm not saying that you don't have good players there, but ,in my opinion, most of them are highy overated. If Manuel Fernandes and João Moutinho were born english, they would be on the best players of the world. And I'm almost sure you don't even know them (Fernandes played against you but didn't know him for sure)... The portuguese league is rubbish but when our players go outside you all love them. And I'm not talking about Hugo Viana's...He wasn't that good here either...
The difference is, you really know how to promote your 'product', in this case, the Premiership.
Besides that, I also think that the Premiership is the most spectacular one because teams let the other play..don't chase so hard... But it seems that you don't have the same opinion. I respect that...
We have live broadcast of 3/4 english matches/weekend so I can have a opinion. You don't get any portuguese match, so can't have a view of the portuguese league...
Anyway, you would hate our league. It's too tactical, very few goals...

Finally, Garcia and Simao are totally different..TOTALLY. Simão is a winger, no questions about that. He likes to cross on the line and he does it with both feet. That's why he is so good. He plays very well on the sides and scores a lot of goals because (since he shoots with the two foot) the defender never knows if he will get the cross or go to the center and shoot.
You'll have to trust me on this one...I mean, you can't see a player from 2 matches. And he wasn't even playing as he uses to, because he was given a free role since we were counter attacking.

If someone wants to see some of his goals...Sadly it only has some goals, and it doesn't have the assists...

2 little ones for those who just want to take a look...

http://rapidshare.de/files....mv.html
http://rapidshare.de/files....mv.html

And if you like, this is a bigger one with lots of goals...(here you can see how much he does that play: playing as a winger and go to the center to shoot. Note that the defenders never know if he'll hit the touch line...)

http://rapidshare.de/files....mv.html

by **Fernando Morientes > 19 <** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:47 am

Simao is certainly a good player but is overrated by Benfica. Agree with one of the above posts saying that we hardly saw Simao cross a ball.

by **Spanishfan** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:17 am

Simao is a MUCH better player than Luis Garcia, and I have seen both play for most of their career.

Simao is much faster, probably stronger, and is not half as erratic as Luis Garcia with his passing. He can get past player better too, and his free kicks are excellent. But he plays much better on the left. Not a problem IMO. Gerrard's best position is RW, and Alonso needs Sissoko there big time. Simao is also much better than Kewell so the improvement would happened either used on the right or left.

by **darwisigila** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:26 am

[quote]
Posted: Mar. 11 2006,06:42
galo
LFC Member

The EPL is a shi.tty league

You are shi.tty poster.........

by **Judge** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:07 am

over the weekend AFP have said that Simao is eyeing a move to lfc, and is confident he will move. He doesnt want chelsea as he feels that he would be a bit part player and that aint good enough for him.

sorry if someone else has posted this info

by **homemsumol** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:58 pm

Effes wrote:
galo wrote:The EPL is a shi.tty league, Chelsea is just a good team but nothing out of the extraordinary (Worse than Juventus, Barcelona and Milan), and already has like 20 points of advance to the rest, and you talk about players from others leagues not being good enough for yours ?! LOL

Maybe if Liverpool played decent football, instead of kicking the ball through the air to some guy 2 meters tall that can't even run 5 meters with it, Morientes and Cissé would be scoring goals no ?

Like these two, Simão is a player too good for your stinkin' team.
If you don't remember any of his crosses, maybe you'll care to see the Euro 2004 quarter-final again.
We don't mind keeping him, if a good offer comes we'll sell him, if you don't have money we'll sell him elsewhere.

And the Portugese league is good?
It's marginally better than the Albanian League

Benfica beat liverpool twice (and as some people from this site said befor the 2 games, benfica is a :censored:

team, they have no good players, blá, blá, blá), before that we played against MU and lost in Old Trafford and win at home in a decisive game. Porto beat Manchester United 2 years ago when they were european champion and lost again chelsea last year in the away game and won in the home game, sporting beat middelsborough and newcastle on their way to UEFA final last year, Portugal national team beat England in Euro 2004 and Euro 2000. Imagine if there was any good team in Portugal....LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

If you think that our league is marginally above the albanian one, imagine if it was a good one? And you should read the uefa report about the competivity in the diferents european leaagues befor you say rubbish like you did.

To all the liverpool fan that where in anfield road on that night, congratulation for the ambience in the stadium and for your fair-play, to all of you that can only write garbbish and still think you are above everyone because you´re english: you will see Arsenal in the Quarter Finals as the only english team, although their football is the less english you have...think about it.

E PLURIBUS UNUM

by **EddieC** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:12 pm

I' rather pay an extra few mill and get Joaquin. Simao likes to drift in from the touchline, we want an out and out winger.

by **Flashard** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:17 pm

I like him, but thats it, agree with above it would have to be around the 5-6 million mark for him. But that money could go along way to securing someone else. hmm Interesting

there is better out there i'm sure.

by **homemsumol** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:21 pm

EddieC wrote:I' rather pay an extra few mill and get Joaquin. Simao likes to drift in from the touchline, we want an out and out winger.

And does Joaquin scores around 12 goals each season like simão? If you say he is overrated, then wait untill liverpool gets joaquin and the price for him, and we´ll talk about it then.

E PLURIBUS UNUM

by **AlanHansen** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:25 pm

What the hell are these portoguese idiots doing still on the forum?. Do they not have there one ones?

To all the liverpool fan that where in anfield road on that night, congratulation for the ambience in the stadium and for your fair-play, to all of you that can only write garbbish and still think you are above everyone because you´re english: you will see Arsenal in the Quarter Finals as the only english team, although their football is the less english you have...think about it.

And what about all the benfica fans still coming on here a week afterwards to gloat?, that's more than stupid and sad man - we didn't even get that from Man utd fans ffs!

by **EddieC** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:25 pm

homemsumol wrote:
EddieC wrote:I' rather pay an extra few mill and get Joaquin. Simao likes to drift in from the touchline, we want an out and out winger.

And does Joaquin scores around 12 goals each season like simão? If you say he is overrated, then wait untill liverpool gets joaquin and the price for him, and we´ll talk about it then.

E PLURIBUS UNUM

We don't want a right sided midfielder to score goals, that's what we need to buy a couple of strikers for, we need a winger banging in the crosses from the right. I don't think Simao's a bad player, but he's not an out and out winger.

by **HacksawJimDuggin** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:31 pm

I wasn't impressed by Simao and believe that paying £10m + for him is a bad piece of business. Especially when there are younger players available.

by **homemsumol** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:41 pm

EddieC wrote:
homemsumol wrote:
EddieC wrote:I' rather pay an extra few mill and get Joaquin. Simao likes to drift in from the touchline, we want an out and out winger.

And does Joaquin scores around 12 goals each season like simão? If you say he is overrated, then wait untill liverpool gets joaquin and the price for him, and we´ll talk about it then.

E PLURIBUS UNUM

We don't want a right sided midfielder to score goals, that's what we need to buy a couple of strikers for, we need a winger banging in the crosses from the right. I don't think Simao's a bad player, but he's not an out and out winger.

I understand what you are saying but simão can do that kind of football. He is a winger that can play only on the side or decide if he can go to the inside, and that joaquin is not able to do at least as easylly as simão. I think they are diferent players but both of them are good. Hope you get better players than you have now (especially for the bench) otherwise it will be dificult to improve in the premier league in the next years.

Good luck for the rest of the season.

E PLURIBUS UNUM

by **Rafalution** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:43 pm

Can somebody post some clips of the great John Barnes so that those people on here who keep saying that Simao is a winger can actually see what a winger is supposed to be !

Simao is as much of a winger as Garcia. He is an attacking midfielder and is not fit to lace digger's laces in my opinion.

I started this topic because when we were linked with Simao, he was supposed to be the cure to our right sided problems. We obviously need wingers and I really do not think this lad is worth half the reported 16 mil he's gonna cost and there is no way that he is the kind of player that will beat a couple of players out wide and swing in quality crosses that our forwards will feed off.

In my opinion if we buy Simao, we might as well have saved the £16mil and kept Smicer on the books because he would offer just as much to that role as I can see Simao bringing to the team.

by **Ace Ventura** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:48 pm

Badradio i mentioned other championships because i think it is relevant.
I'll confess to not watching live matches of the Portuguese league so i can not comment fully on the style of play, and possibly i am wrong about your league.
My opinion was based on watching Portuguese players in general, like with alot of the european leagues the players go down at the slightest oppurtunity and dont generally have the physical strength to succeed in the English Premiership.
Even a quality player like Deco i think would struggle in our league.
Btw Luis Garcia also scores goals with either foot, from outside the area and is a decent crosser of a ball, imo if we swopped players we would not see a major difference in end product, but as you say i am basing this on seeing Simao on just 3 occasions.
I would rather have a lad from our league Jermaine Pennant who imo would offer LFC far more than Simao.

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