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by **anfieldadorer** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:55 am

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
33 Kuqi 5
34 Robben 5
35 Ronaldo 5
36 Shearer 5
37 Cisse 4
38 Crouch 4
39 Davis 4
40 Helguson 4
41 Horsfield 4
42 Jarosik 4

Thanks for the number.

Let see PC and Cisse .

Do you have a number how many games they played.

no probs, here they are:

Kuqi
Appearances: 23
Minutes on pitch: 1518
Subs. (on/off): 9/6
Assists: 3
Caught offside: 16
Crosses: 9

Robben
Appearances: 23
Minutes on pitch: 1518
Subs. (on/off): 9/6
Assists: 3
Caught offside: 16
Crosses: 9

Ronaldo
Appearances: 20
Minutes on pitch: 1332
Subs. (on/off): 8/5
Assists: 3
Caught offside: 6
Crosses: 70

Shearer
Appearances: 20
Minutes on pitch: 1332
Subs. (on/off): 8/5
Assists: 3
Caught offside: 6
Crosses: 70

Cisse
Appearances: 21
Minutes on pitch: 1111
Subs. (on/off): 10/7
Assists: 0
Caught offside: 22
Crosses: 29

Crouch
Appearances: 21
Minutes on pitch: 1111
Subs. (on/off): 10/7
Assists: 0
Caught offside: 22
Crosses: 29

Davis
Appearances: 25
Minutes on pitch: 2240
Subs. (on/off): 1/3
Assists: 0
Caught offside: 0
Crosses: 22

Helguson
Appearances: 25
Minutes on pitch: 2240
Subs. (on/off): 1/3
Assists: 0
Caught offside: 0
Crosses: 22

Horsfield
Appearances: 17
Minutes on pitch: 896
Subs. (on/off): 8/4
Assists: 0
Caught offside: 20
Crosses: 5

Jarosik
Appearances: 17
Minutes on pitch: 896
Subs. (on/off): 8/4
Assists: 0
Caught offside: 20
Crosses: 5

so what would you do with this?

by **matrix** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:36 am

anfieldadorer wrote:I'm writing this right after the chelsea match. I've never felt so bad like this. No matter how hard we play, no matter how solid and contributive our mids are, no matter how solid our defense are, it simply won't work if you don't have strikers

yes we technically have forwards, but we practically don't have strikers.

yes crouch plays not bad, he helps the others to play easier, but that's not what he's paid for, strikers must score.

Yes we have expensive player in Cisse, yes we have a world class striker in moro. But so far they're just some jokes.

Yes we cry for RW and CB, but what's the point in getting the most expensive defender ever in our history if you kick the ball upfront to only return back again

sorry, just can't help it

good post mate...i never came on the site for 24 hours after sunday felt so low honestly...and that cheating cu.nt robben :veryangry

by **azriahmad** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:00 am

Anfieldadorer...Crouch did not make any assists at all? What about team mates scoring off second balls from him?

by **66-1137139704** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:11 am

anfieldadorer wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
33 Kuqi 5
34 Robben 5
35 Ronaldo 5
36 Shearer 5
37 Cisse 4
38 Crouch 4
39 Davis 4
40 Helguson 4
41 Horsfield 4
42 Jarosik 4

Thanks for the number.

Let see PC and Cisse .

Do you have a number how many games they played.

no probs, here they are:

Cisse
Appearances: 21
Minutes on pitch: 1111
Subs. (on/off): 10/7
Assists: 0
Caught offside: 22
Crosses: 29

Crouch
Appearances: 21
Minutes on pitch: 1111
Subs. (on/off): 10/7
Assists: 0
Caught offside: 22
Crosses: 29

so what would you do with this?

cisse and crouch have identical stats

imposible!

Give us a link :glare:

by **66-1137139704** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:24 am

it could be true link

At 21 games each in the prem and with crouch playing as an out and out striker in each one of them with cisse probably playing as a right winger in half of his 21 games.

by **anfieldadorer** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:58 am

azriahmad wrote:Anfieldadorer...Crouch did not make any assists at all? What about team mates scoring off second balls from him?

@also mudfcae

sorry, copy-paste error:

stats for crouchie should be:
Appearances: 21
Minutes on pitch: 1466
Subs. (on/off): 3/13
Assists: 2
Caught offside: 8
Crosses: 1

by **azriahmad** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:07 am

That looks a bit better. I remembered him making some assists.

Cisse's cr@p, does next to nothing for the team. Aldridge used to do next to nothing for the team in terms of assist or play-link but, a very big BUT, he is so bloody prolific and clinical. Cisse is neither.

If one is a striker/forward but is not prolific, it would be OK if it is compensated by great link-up play, assists, harassing the opposition AND clinical in tucking away the chances when they come. You get two chances and score one every time is an acceptable ratio if there is more to your game than just scoring. But if you get two, three, four or five chanced and you miss them all, and you hardly cross decently, you're no good!

Cisse's definitely got to go in the summer.

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:13 am

Cisse's definitely got to go in the summer.

Azri that's wrong . He have score the most goals compare to Nando and PC. Why ? Is it because he miss the opening GOAL vs Man U ?

Others might said that he played more games , but what is a point when he played on the RM where he can played as a striker and score goals too.

by **66-1137139704** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:42 am

anfieldadorer wrote:
azriahmad wrote:Anfieldadorer...Crouch did not make any assists at all? What about team mates scoring off second balls from him?

@also mudfcae

sorry, copy-paste error:

stats for crouchie should be:
Appearances: 21
Minutes on pitch: 1466
Subs. (on/off): 3/13
Assists: 2
Caught offside: 8
Crosses: 1

Stats from espn.com:

cisse:

Starts:-21
Subs:-19
Goals:-14
Assists:-1
Shots:-55
Shots on goal:-23
Yellow cards:-2
Fouls suffered:-16
Fouls commited:-12

Crouch
Starts:-29
Subs:-6
Goals:-5
Assists:-2
Shots:-70
Shots on goal:-29
Yellow cards:-4
Fouls suffered:-37
Fouls commited:-60

Statistics are never wrong. :bowdown

Too bad that they dont tell you that cisse only played a couple of games as a striker.
I hope its now clearer who is the best

link

by **ynwa** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:26 am

we just can not score we can setup for them to score but we need the likes of fowler owen

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:26 pm

cisse:

Starts:-21
Subs:-19
Goals:-14
Assists:-1
Shots:-55
Shots on goal:-23
Yellow cards:-2
Fouls suffered:-16
Fouls commited:-12

Crouch
Starts:-29
Subs:-6
Goals:-5
Assists:-2
Shots:-70
Shots on goal:-29
Yellow cards:-4
Fouls suffered:-37
Fouls commited:-60

Statistics are never wrong.
Too bad that they dont tell you that cisse only played a couple of games as a striker.
I hope its now clearer who is the best

Yup ! Thats show that Cisse should played more as a striker rather than RM but ( I still dont understand ) why Rafa played him more on the right or on the bench. I really think that Rafa is BIAS.

by **anfieldadorer** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:27 pm

MudFace wrote:
anfieldadorer wrote:
azriahmad wrote:Anfieldadorer...Crouch did not make any assists at all? What about team mates scoring off second balls from him?

@also mudfcae

sorry, copy-paste error:

stats for crouchie should be:
Appearances: 21
Minutes on pitch: 1466
Subs. (on/off): 3/13
Assists: 2
Caught offside: 8
Crosses: 1

Stats from espn.com:

cisse:

Starts:-21
Subs:-19
Goals:-14
Assists:-1
Shots:-55
Shots on goal:-23
Yellow cards:-2
Fouls suffered:-16
Fouls commited:-12

Crouch
Starts:-29
Subs:-6
Goals:-5
Assists:-2
Shots:-70
Shots on goal:-29
Yellow cards:-4
Fouls suffered:-37
Fouls commited:-60

Statistics are never wrong.
Too bad that they dont tell you that cisse only played a couple of games as a striker.
I hope its now clearer who is the best

link

the post still links to my first post which refers to chelsea match, so i put the stats for only EPL matches, yours perhaps including all the matches

by **66-1137139704** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:04 pm

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
cisse:

Starts:-21
Subs:-19
Goals:-14
Assists:-1
Shots:-55
Shots on goal:-23
Yellow cards:-2
Fouls suffered:-16
Fouls commited:-12

Crouch
Starts:-29
Subs:-6
Goals:-5
Assists:-2
Shots:-70
Shots on goal:-29
Yellow cards:-4
Fouls suffered:-37
Fouls commited:-60

Statistics are never wrong.
Too bad that they dont tell you that cisse only played a couple of games as a striker.
I hope its now clearer who is the best

Yup ! Thats show that Cisse should played more as a striker rather than RM but ( I still dont understand ) why Rafa played him more on the right or on the bench. I really think that Rafa is BIAS.

I think Rafa wants to build his own team.
Which means he will eventually remove all players brought in by GH.
Time will tell if its for the better :down:

by **Lionheart** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:07 pm

MudFace wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
cisse:

Starts:-21
Subs:-19
Goals:-14
Assists:-1
Shots:-55
Shots on goal:-23
Yellow cards:-2
Fouls suffered:-16
Fouls commited:-12

Crouch
Starts:-29
Subs:-6
Goals:-5
Assists:-2
Shots:-70
Shots on goal:-29
Yellow cards:-4
Fouls suffered:-37
Fouls commited:-60

Statistics are never wrong.
Too bad that they dont tell you that cisse only played a couple of games as a striker.
I hope its now clearer who is the best

Yup ! Thats show that Cisse should played more as a striker rather than RM but ( I still dont understand ) why Rafa played him more on the right or on the bench. I really think that Rafa is BIAS.

I think Rafa wants to build his own team.
Which means he will eventually remove all players brought in by GH.
Time will tell if its for the better

Yeah right!!! He's going to get rid of the like of Kewell and Co. Get your hand of it sonny.

Who is this moron??

by **66-1137139704** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:45 pm

Lionheart wrote:
MudFace wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
cisse:

Starts:-21
Subs:-19
Goals:-14
Assists:-1
Shots:-55
Shots on goal:-23
Yellow cards:-2
Fouls suffered:-16
Fouls commited:-12

Crouch
Starts:-29
Subs:-6
Goals:-5
Assists:-2
Shots:-70
Shots on goal:-29
Yellow cards:-4
Fouls suffered:-37
Fouls commited:-60

Statistics are never wrong.
Too bad that they dont tell you that cisse only played a couple of games as a striker.
I hope its now clearer who is the best

Yup ! Thats show that Cisse should played more as a striker rather than RM but ( I still dont understand ) why Rafa played him more on the right or on the bench. I really think that Rafa is BIAS.

I think Rafa wants to build his own team.
Which means he will eventually remove all players brought in by GH.
Time will tell if its for the better

Yeah right!!! He's going to get rid of the like of Kewell and Co. Get your hand of it sonny.

kewell will go soon as will traore.
The only people remaining from the GH era will most probably be riise,hyppia,carra and gerrard.

Hyppia because he is hard to replace and will go on for some time and Riise,because he is class though underrated.
Carra and Gerrard on the other hand are the fans favorites and represent the face of the club :buttrock

Finnans future depends on the performance of his replacement...and A.Barragan.

Flo will become surplus requirement if we get a RW and defoe(or another striker).

Watch this space....

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