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Postby ynwa » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:11 am

to me when u play the likes of the mancs the gooners and chealski away i think we should play hamman in the centre of midfield cause he will break the attack up give it to gerrard and gerrard will make us attack. also i dont warnock is not mature enough to play against the big dont get me wrong he is a good player but i dont think he is ready to play against them yet
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Postby 115-1073096938 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:14 am

ynwa wrote:to me when u play the likes of the mancs the gooners and chealski away i think we should play hamman in the centre of midfield cause he will break the attack up give it to gerrard and gerrard will make us attack. also i dont warnock is not mature enough to play against the big dont get me wrong he is a good player but i dont think he is ready to play against them yet

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Postby flombs » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:16 am

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flombs wrote:I dont like crouch as a forward, maybe im wrong (actually no i dont) but i would prefer to have him as an attacking mid as he is great at holding the ball and is a team player who can create, not someone whom i have faith in scoring regularly.

By the way where was Robbie?

Attacking midfield? You aren't serious? :D

I am, i think he would play a better role in that area. He wouldnt be the conventional AM but its something i would like to see if he could pull it off. Wouldnt his hold up play and passing suit him there?

Dunno, i think its something that could work.  :Oo:
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Postby Dalglish » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:20 am

ynwa wrote:to me when u play the likes of the mancs the gooners and chealski away i think we should play hamman in the centre of midfield cause he will break the attack up give it to gerrard and gerrard will make us attack. also i dont warnock is not mature enough to play against the big dont get me wrong he is a good player but i dont think he is ready to play against them yet

If you take a look at earlier pages on this thread from yesterday i said the same thing more or less. Hamann sits in front of the back four and breaks up play and is essentially a spolier for the opposition. This gives Alonso and Gerard the space and time to playmake......
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Postby Woollyback » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:28 am

yup, spot on for games like today - i'd go with didi ahead of sissoko. against "lesser" sides i'd go with sissoko's energy and drive but against the likes of chelsea we need to rely (for the time-being at least) on safety first because we just simply don't have the firepower to translate our possession into goals. assuming next season we have a top class goal-machine it should be a different story but until then maybe we have to admit that for games like today defence is the best form of attack
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Postby Rastalovich » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:34 am

stu_the_red wrote:
Rastalovich wrote:I don`t r8 him @ all m8y tbh, but that doesn`t mean I won`t be cheering him on, along with the others I may not favor.

Nethertheless, I agree this is only the infancy of Rafa`s plans, the end of next year I get more critical, the following year even more so. U can`t slate a manager inside 5 years or so when there`s changes to be made... imo.

No1 can argue with last year tho.

Anywho, it`s a debate/discussion.

You don't rate Crouch?

What exactly don't you rate?

A quote from Rafa "those who think he's a poor player, don't know football". :;):

What u think the guy who signs him is gonna say - "Ya I signed him, I know he`s :censored:, but hey-ho".

U saying if Crouch fails as a forward Rafa knows nothing about football ?

I don`t know what Rafa was smoking when he quoted that, maybe it was something to do with the translation, and to cling onto that as qualification if some1 knows about football is pretty dumb tbh.

Is Gerrard still the leading scorer ?
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:06 am

Well I suggested 3-5-2 donkeys back. Still.

I think a defence of;

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                          JC                     Sami                  Agger

Would be pretty good, and the 5 in midfield would help us to slap teams about.

I'd do it!
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Postby The_Rock » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:25 am

This might be a knee-jerk reaction (i hate it when we lose)....but IF we we wanna challenge chelsea & scums for the premierleague, crouch is not the answer.

He is a good honest professional...... but he is not the answer if we are to be a force in the premierleague.

His heading is woeful.....simply unbelievable.

Maybe we should go for Andy Johnston from Crystal Palace. We need a proven premierleague goal scorer.
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Postby Rastalovich » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:28 am

Funny u should say that, all the time b4 the Crouch signing, all I seemed to hear was it was likely to be Andy Johnston.

Think maybe some wires were crossed in the rumor mill >.<
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Postby 115-1073096938 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:59 pm

Rastalovich wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:
Rastalovich wrote:I don`t r8 him @ all m8y tbh, but that doesn`t mean I won`t be cheering him on, along with the others I may not favor.

Nethertheless, I agree this is only the infancy of Rafa`s plans, the end of next year I get more critical, the following year even more so. U can`t slate a manager inside 5 years or so when there`s changes to be made... imo.

No1 can argue with last year tho.

Anywho, it`s a debate/discussion.

You don't rate Crouch?

What exactly don't you rate?

A quote from Rafa "those who think he's a poor player, don't know football". :;):

What u think the guy who signs him is gonna say - "Ya I signed him, I know he`s :censored:, but hey-ho".

U saying if Crouch fails as a forward Rafa knows nothing about football ?

I don`t know what Rafa was smoking when he quoted that, maybe it was something to do with the translation, and to cling onto that as qualification if some1 knows about football is pretty dumb tbh.

Is Gerrard still the leading scorer ?

Crouch will never score 20 goals a season... well i doubt it. That doesn't mean he offers nothing.

Crouch is a massive part of the reason of the massive improvement of Gerrard's goalscoring this season. His ability to come from deep positions and link with a striker who can play with his back to goal is superb.
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Postby JBG » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:11 pm

Don't like three at the back. We tried it in the 1990s and it just didn't work. Villa also used it for years and never won anything.

Arsenal, Chelsea and Man UTD play four at the back and played 4 at the back when they won Championships.
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Postby Pakat » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:49 pm

Although Crouch is good at assisting, we still need a goalscorer.  Apart from Fowler the goalscorer who is working on his fitness, Cisse and Morientes can't finish.
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Postby ynwa » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:09 pm

when we play away i think we should play 3-5-2
                                         reina
                             carriager hypia agger
                                         hamman
                        jar      alonso       gerrard    finnan
                               fowler crouch/nando
when the other team is on the attackwe can use jar and finnan can fill in as the full backs.
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Postby Rastalovich » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:39 pm

ynwa wrote:when we play away i think we should play 3-5-2
                                         reina
                             carriager hypia agger
                                         hamman
                        jar      alonso       gerrard    finnan
                               fowler crouch/nando
when the other team is on the attackwe can use jar and finnan can fill in as the full backs.

I`d play like that if the team were used to it and available.
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Postby Rastalovich » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:42 pm

stu_the_red wrote:Crouch will never score 20 goals a season... well i doubt it. That doesn't mean he offers nothing.

Crouch is a massive part of the reason of the massive improvement of Gerrard's goalscoring this season. His ability to come from deep positions and link with a striker who can play with his back to goal is superb.

Heskey comes to mind.

I don`t remember him have such a bad `touch` tho, and he could header a ball with purpose as opposed to getting his frame in the air and deal with the ball should it happen to favorly bounce off u.
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