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by **Sabre** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:05 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:Notice to forum members we will probably lose another two or three games this season in the league alone. Please dont jump on the Rafa out bandwagon then yourselves..............

Whos that statement aimed at Leon?

Pay a visit to old threads like the one debating if Rafa doesn't get the Premiership CIGGY, it's most amusing :;):

Sabre

by **Ciggy** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:09 pm

Sabre wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:Notice to forum members we will probably lose another two or three games this season in the league alone. Please dont jump on the Rafa out bandwagon then yourselves..............

Whos that statement aimed at Leon?

Pay a visit to old threads like the one debating if Rafa doesn't get the Premiership CIGGY, it's most amusing

Sabre

Yes I know that Sabre but Rafa is not free from critism if things are not going to good, its only human that people will critise, the players/manager/board.
When Rafa was playing that formation of one up front every man and his dog could see it wasnt working, and fans where crying out to play 2 up top, and since he has changed his tactics we have been winning games.
So surely it was right to critise NO?
And Rafa has learned by his mistakes he is now taking advice from ex reds, and is using their valuble information to the good of the team.

by **Sabre** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:27 pm

Of course it's right to criticise, I even posted at that times that having an english sidekick like John Aldridge wouldn't do any harm to Rafa

. We all criticise sooner or later.

But I think Leon is talking about another kind of poster, that they only need a game lost and a draw, to start dozens of bashing, opportunist threads. And this is not your case, nor the case of the majority of the regulars here, but there are some posters that are like that (I cannot bother to remember now, I'll pay a visit later to the old threads)

by **dawson99** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:31 pm

i dont believe this, we finally get some recognition and you fans still arent happy?!?!?!
its the same with everythign in the world, the media will only write what will sell, and at the moment its us. clean sheets and wins all over the place, and stevie g playing like a star on the right of midfield.

im actually enjoying reading the things that i have known all along. Let them jump on the bandwagon i say. and everyone likes recognition, a little praise for what is beign achieved, long may it continue i say

by **Igor Zidane** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:34 pm

i think critisism is justified as long as it's constructive and well informed ,all the stuff like this players :censored:

and that players :censored:

doesn't help anyone (accept josemi and traore of course) we all know sh!te when we see it,but we all know that this team doesn't compare to some of the dross underthe previous manager,it's all a matter of perspective.

by **66-1120597113** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:39 pm

Im impartial to the veiws of any paper especially the tabloid shi.te!
They are so schizophrenic i cant see how any right minded football fan can take them seriously or believe the rumors they write to fill their pages!
Fuc.k the press let them write what they want and as for their recognition,well they can stick that up their as.ses !
They've written too much filfth in the past to deserve an ounce of gratitude!

by **liamac** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:03 am

peewee wrote:i read that mate but thought the 'ten men' referred to sisokes sending off. they also seem to miss the point that the teams above us also have played the "lesser" teams

PeeWee i think for sure he meant Crouch , the whole article was basicly dumbing down Liverpools results and current form .
The tw@t was more or less saying that if we had played Chleski Manure and the Gooners along possibly with Bolton and Spurs , we wouldnt have had 5 straight wins , overlooking the fact that the gooners got shafted at Middlesborough etc etc.
The whole article was completely negative IMO towards Liverpool and towards our style of play .
To sum up , the reporter is a pr!ck .
I think the article from the Times was excellent , even suggesting that our strikers are out of form , if thats the case ,god knows how well we will be doing when they are in form and i cant bloody wait :bowdown

by **Woollyback** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:30 am

I'm with Ciggy on this, for years the press have been crawling up the a*ses of ManU, then Arsenal, now Chelsea and all the time have dismissed us as no-hopers and told us it's a foregone conclusion that Gerrard was unhappy here and how could he possible want to be anywhere else but London

Now that ManU are yesterday's team in a relative shambles, and Arsenal have struggled to find any consistency since their amazing 03/04 season, suddenly the press seem to want to start a Liverpool bandwagon and basque in some reflected glory

Well as far as I'm concerned the press can f*ck off, they've dogged us for years with their London-centric sh!te so why the hell should they jump on our coat-tails now? They can go f*ck themselves and carry on licking Mourinho's balls, we don't need them and we don't want them, bunch of t0ssers

by **Feeney** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:38 am

jonnymac1979 wrote:From Football365.com

Meanwhile, the night's one Premiership match saw Liverpool win 2-0 at Sunderland to go fourth, thanks to two defence-splitting passes by Xabi Alonso.

Under cover of the Crouch controversy, Liverpool have risen without trace to within two points of second.

The facts of their improvement are plain for all to see: last year they needed 17 games to reach 25 points, so effectively they have four games in hand on themselves.

But there is no real sense of an improvement. No one is excited by this development and the only memorable domestic Liverpool performances have been in defeat, to Chelsea and Crystal Palace.

The man himself was inches from an open goal when stopped by what looked like all the world to be a penalty, but having gone the equivalent of a day without scoring the headlines were of course about him.

There are reasons for the absence of attention to Liverpool's rise beyond the furore over Crouch (and hats off to his team-mates if they have, as many effectively argue, done this well while fielding only 10 men).

First, the role of the second best defensive record in the league is never going to be eye-catching.

Second, the five-match winning streak has been against West Ham, Aston Villa, Portsmouth, Manchester City and Sunderland, hardly the great and the good of the Prem.

Then again, the next five opponents - Wigan, Middlesbrough, Newcastle, Everton and West Brom - are scarcely more illustrious.

It's all very tight. Beat Wigan on Saturday and the Reds could end the day in second; lose and they could be seventh.

World Club Championship commitments mean that Rafael Benitez's side will soon slip two games behind most of the division, muddying their true position for a while longer.

Never mind the question of whether Crouch is any good - what are his team like?

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I feel a bit angry reading this b*ll*c*ks. As was pointed out elsewhere on the F365 messageboards, this prick says that the ten teams he listed aren't the most illustrious, but that's HALF THE PREMIERSHIP he's just listed there. Don't the 'Wonder Teams' Chelsea, Arsenal and that other bunch of twats have to play these ten teams as well? It's all a load of shit and these ameteur journalists can't face the fact that we are the European Champions and we are actually a class side who nobody can beat 'even with ten men'. Their words not mine. The cheeky bastards, have they even seen Crouchy play? I'm a big fan of Crouchy and as far as I'm concerned, he's doing the business for us. I've got no complaints, the goal will come sooner or later.

The journo's will always jump on any story they can make up - as previously mentioned, just like the Henry situation - what a loss he will be to the Prem if he does go, but the journo's don't care as it will sell papers if he does.

Personally, I think the journo's needs to give credit where it's due. Admittedly, we haven't played the best of teams in the last 5 games (if we are all honest to ourselves, we haven't) but the thing that has impressed me is the progress and attitude the team has displayed in these matches.

It's these matches where true grit and character is displayed to grind out results. We have walked away with 3 points in each match. Man U have done it for years, so have the Ar$e - Chelski has done it as often as this year (against, funnily enough, Wigan). These are the games, to me, that are the hardest to win as they are the hardest to get yourself 'up' for.

We currently find ourselves in fourth place in the Prem and that is entirely on merit (do we look like a side that has been playing competitive football since July?). The teams that have been put in front of us have been beaten - no-one can ask for any more than that. How many times in the past have we squandered our game in hand and seen floundering? We haven't this time and I don't believe we will waste tomorrows opportunity either.

The focus of the media has shifted to us now - and not just for Crouch's lack of goals. Personally, it's a position I would have wanted - no-one has batted an eyelid while we climbed the table and it's now we can move into a spot that Liverpool should be aiming for that everyone is suddenly taking notice.

Be prepared for more spiteful columns in the press such as the one displayed - and laugh at them all. I'm seeing progress in my team, much more than I could have envisaged at the start of this campaign - it's the calmness and control of our play that has impressed me the most by the way - and be content that the best is yet to come. :cool:

by **AussieKopite** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:29 am

Garymac wrote:
AussieKopite wrote:I think the only downside to us winning the prem will be all the glory fans that suddenly come on board. They get quite annoying.

Yeah if Gerrard one day lifts that trophy a loft, thats exactly what ill be thinking of

There is no downside to winning your league championship, trust me.

Good point, I'll probably too over the moon to think about that. Still, they'll give themselves away.

by **Leonmc0708** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:21 pm

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:Notice to forum members we will probably lose another two or three games this season in the league alone. Please dont jump on the Rafa out bandwagon then yourselves..............

Whos that statement aimed at Leon?

As I said, it is a notice to forum members.

These people know who they are, and if the cap fits.......

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