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by **115-1073096938** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 1:43 pm

they had 40,000+ people sitting there waiting for you to make a mistake?

Think about it... it probably pisses you off knowing your boss is going to be petty about you being 2 minutes late. Or someone in work says something about you thats not complimentry. It ruins your day. More often than not if one person says something out of turn people get into a huff. Think about when you play football yourself. One of the opposing players walks into you deliberately or gives you a sly kick... does it make you happy? I would think most of you it will annoy.

Now i don't care who you are... if you're going to tell me that having 40,000 people on your back shouldn't affect you then you're talking out of your anal passage.

The players look terrified every time they get on the pitch. Its not an opinion, its not an exageration. Its a fact.

They show a lack of confidence and a lack of believe in everything they do. Its not because they're bad players, most of them would walk into 90% of teams in the world. But they are terrified to make a mistake. That flick that Kewell might want to try will become a sqaure ball. The creative through pass that Le Tallec may want to play might just all of a sudden seem to risky. The run that Owen wants to make doesn't happen as he knows the pass wasn't going to be good enough. The midfield dare not overlap the attackers incase we go a goal behind. It all has an effect on the way the team performs.

Now think about it the otherway.

You have 40,000 people with you. If you make a mistake it doesn't matter so much because they believe you can correct it. Le Tallec plays the through ball and it doesn't quite come off the fans applaud the intent as apose to groaning. The player then feels at home, welcome and relaxed knowing they can see what he was trying. He doesn't feel like he has to explain himself. Its a weight off their shoulders.

The fans have the power to boost the players confidence. At the moment we have a group of Talented players, with no confidence and sh##e fans who are just silent all the time.

Be the 12th man... remember the Roma game at anfield a few seasons ago? the wins against the mancs. It was the opposition that was terrified not the home team. The atmosphere was simply frightening. It gave me goosebumps those nights. Thats what happens when you show your support and love for the club.

I long for the days to return when its a good experience to go to anfield. I want it to be something good again, something special, where you can go and support the side without hearing the abuse the players and staff recieve and without fans being critisised for getting behind the team. Sadly i think those days have passed and i believe LFC's chances of success have untill those days return.

YNWA.

by **JBG** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 1:59 pm

It was only a matter of time Stu before you raised your ugly head again blaming the fans for our problems.

Its not the boards fault that we are 26 points behind Arsenal, its not the players fault, its not Gerard Houllier's fault.

Ya Stu, its the fans fault.

Everyone here is responsible for not winning the league in 14 years.

Don't criticise Heskey, Biscan, Smicer, Diao or Diouff....doing so will cause the team to lose.

The fans blew £100-150million on players since Dalglish left? The fans sold Jari Litmannen?

By the way Stu I always support the team when I am at Anfield, I never shout abuse. I keep my criticism to this forum and the pub.

by **The Manhattan Project** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:02 pm

You'd think that the salaries these players receive would be motivation enough.

by **Thor Viking** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:12 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:You'd think that the salaries these players receive would be motivation enough.

Agreed ! If they can`t take the criticism they ought to find something else to do - bowling for instance ! When you dream about being a topstar footballplayer you can`t think that you don`t become visible to critics ( and envy,I might add !) BUT, why do you make all that kind of money : doesn`t that take some heat off the criticism ?

by **greenred** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:52 pm

If GH and the players cant take the pressure of performing in front of 45,000 people then perhaps they should take up a different profession.Pressure is part of the job and its how you handle the pressure that dictates if your succesful or not.The best players and managers thrive under adversity and emerge all the better for it.Enough excuses.

by **DAV** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:08 pm

Once again STU your comments annoy me and make no sense i only read the start of your post but its the same rubbish as you normally talk.
Houlier took the job Houlier knows the pressure of Football and the expectations of our fans.(and the big fat pay checks he will get)
If he cannot handle critism and the players alike they should not be involved in football.
It's a high profile job with high pay to go with it.
Houlier carnt be so stupid as to expect the fans to stick with him cheer him when the job isnt going well.
It's nothing personal its business the fact is he and his staff and players arnt producing, and like in any job if this is so you get shown the door and alot of grief to go with it.
The more high profile the job the more of a need for success.
I'm not interested in Houliers personal problems or how much of a Liverpool fan he is. I'm interested in the success of Liverpool FC and with Houlier in charge that isnt happening.

by **DAV** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:12 pm

O yeah 1 more thing STU u said most of our players would walk into any team in the world, what rubbish.
If they were all that talented Real Madrid,Barcelona, The Italian clubs would have bort all this so called talent.
There are exceptions but not many Owen,Gerrard and Kewell

by **ynwa** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:18 pm

f##k given liverpool s##t instead of slagging them off get behind them
once they that we r getting behind them they will play true football the way we use to play. this season anfield has been dead with no fans getting behind them treat every home game like we r play teams like barca roma get the nosie back up the way it use to be the kop is the 12th man for liverpool i have forgot what the nosie felt like in the kop bring the kop back to life

by **DAV** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:21 pm

Get real
We dont have the squad to compete i will always cheer Liverpool on at every game.
That changes nothing
I make my comments in forums like this not at matches.
R U SAYING ITS WRONG TO HAVE AN OPINION AND WRONG TO WANT A CHANGE WHEN I LIKE MANY OTHERS CAN SEE OUR CLUB FALLING APART.
R U ALSO SAYING ITS PEOPLE LIKE ME WITH OPINION WHO R CAUSING OUR DOWN FALL.
R U ALSO SAYING THAT IF I DIDNT MAKE THESE POSTS WE WOULD PLAY BETTER FOOTBALL AND HOULIER WOULD TURN US AROUND.

GET REAL AND WAKE UP

by **115-1073096938** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:41 pm

O yeah 1 more thing STU u said most of our players would walk into any team in the world, what rubbish.
If they were all that talented Real Madrid,Barcelona, The Italian clubs would have bort all this so called talent.
There are exceptions but not many Owen,Gerrard and Kewell

i said 90% of teams in the world. bearing in mind there are more than 1 professional division in nearly every country then i think this was an accurate statement. your lack of perspective is stupid.

what i'm sayin is at the match if we believed and cheered insteead of moaned an jeered it would transmit to the players. it always does. part of the reason we won those cups and finished second and reached the cl quarters was the fans. we were amazing those seasons. now its different.

by **ynwa** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:42 pm

f##k the manger just support the players i know most of them r poo bit come on if u love livepool just give them some support yes u r aloud oive them s##t but there is place u can do it and anfield is not one of the places

by **DAV** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:47 pm

so pint taken our players would get in teams in ireland cezch rebublic poland the belgian congo usa and other such places.
So whats your point
U can only cheer when u see somthing u like and enjoy
r u suggesting we all jump up and down cheering everything like our FA cup exit regardless.
I'll look 4 u this weekend in the crowd at leeds constantey jumping up and and down all through the game singing liverpool chants regardless if we are loseing and playing negative boring football.
May be teams like Carlisle should try this, how stupid no one has ever thought of this.
It's not the manager the players and the staff who win games its the crowd and how much jumping and cheering they do.
So i can tell my friends it wasnt the players who did us the treble and it wasnt shankley who was great it was in fact me.

by **greenred** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:48 pm

Its all bollox.If GH and the boys cant take the heat they should get out of the effin kitchen.We support,thats our job,they perform,thats their job.But they have not performed for nearly two seasons now so wtf should we still support them?Liverpool till I die,but I wont blindly support GH and that shower of foreign mercaneries.

by **DAV** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:56 pm

continued from last post.
I'd like 2 appolagise to all Liverpool fans 4 the 1988 facup final loss to wimbledon
I was in crowd and 4 a brief second i stopped jumping up and down and cheering when we got the penalty
So this must be my fault it was missed and beasnt saved it.
I take full responsability 4 this

by **kopper** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:26 pm

I'd like 2 appolagise to all Liverpool fans 4 the 1988 facup final loss to wimbledon
I was in crowd and 4 a brief second i stopped jumping up and down and cheering when we got the penalty
So this must be my fault it was missed and beasnt saved it.
I take full responsability 4 this

Fire his a#se. :laugh:

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