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by **Red** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:24 am

The problem is; fans want results now, you've been waiting over 10 years almost 15.
; The manager needs time to build a team, lets face it he took over alot of junk from Houllier. He needs to sive through all the players and make up his own mind, (eg Traore). You never know he may take a lemon and make lemonade with him. In my mind, I've written off this season already, aim for 4th and focus on getting team and tactics right for next year. Forgodsakes if Stevie G and Harry Kewell need rest to recouperate from injury LET THEM REST.

I appeal to the fans, take the pressure off for results now, take a few deep breaths, let them wind up for some big swings in the future. This RESULTS NOW, attitude only hurts us in the long term.

by **Dalglish** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:34 am

The reaction to recent events seems to have polarised most fans on Benitez. He's either the best manager to walk the earth OR the worlds worst and needs replacing. Neither are true. Benitez is IMO doing a fine job so far. I'm ignoring the league position and I'm not expecting to even make 4th this season. We have become a club obsessed with the CL and that 4th spot. Why ? Some claim that it meant the difference last season on the saga of Stevie G staying . Well it didn't stop michael Owen leaving did it ? And truth be told it won't stop Stevie leaving either I'm afriad to say

You simply can't mention Liverpool's recent run without making reference to the injury list. Although it's to benitez's credit that he doesn't use it as an excuse it's quite obvious that the injuries we have suffered this season have had a major effect on the teams performances.

I understand peoples frustrations and I share many of them but Benitez isn't one of them.

Walk on .....

by **A.B.** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:38 am

As bad as things are at the moment, we will finish fourth.

by **Dalglish** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:40 am

A.B. wrote:As bad as things are at the moment, we will finish fourth.

You know what AB, I don't really care

The sooner we stop being so damend obsessed with the CL the better , maybe then we will qualify for it and compete in it instead of being satisfied just to make up the numbers

by **82-1074641017** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:46 am

Dalglish wrote:The reaction to recent events seems to have polarised most fans on Benitez. He's either the best manager to walk the earth OR the worlds worst and needs replacing. Neither are true. Benitez is IMO doing a fine job so far. I'm ignoring the league position and I'm not expecting to even make 4th this season. We have become a club obsessed with the CL and that 4th spot. Why ? Some claim that it meant the difference last season on the saga of Stevie G staying . Well it didn't stop michael Owen leaving did it ? And truth be told it won't stop Stevie leaving either I'm afriad to say

You simply can't mention Liverpool's recent run without making reference to the injury list. Although it's to benitez's credit that he doesn't use it as an excuse it's quite obvious that the injuries we have suffered this season have had a major effect on the teams performances.

I understand peoples frustrations and I share many of them but Benitez isn't one of them.

Walk on .....

And you think we will do any better next season without our best player Stevie G?

I dont, and the sorry pieces of sh1t will probably fall even further down the table next season

Legend Roberts

by **Dalglish** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:49 am

Hi Roberts, I understand your frustration mate but venting your spleen on here doesn't benefit yourself or anyone.

You seem to have gone off on one and i have on e question for you ? If not Benitez then who ? And WHOEVER we get do you seriously believe Stevie g is going to stay ?

by **LFC #1** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:51 am

let's say Stevie goes Roberts for 37 million, we could get 3 high calbre players such as Coloccini, Aimar and Joaquin or Vicente or summit.

IMO that would give us a stronger team than we have at the minute, depsite the absence of Stevie G.

by **82-1074641017** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:51 am

Dalglish wrote:Hi Roberts, I understand your frustration mate but venting your spleen on here doesn't benefit yourself or anyone.

You seem to have gone off on one and i have on e question for you ? If not Benitez then who ? And WHOEVER we get do you seriously believe Stevie g is going to stay ?

Well I think Stevie G will go even if we win the League this season.

But as I have always said the right man for the job is Martin O Neill, Jose Mourinho would have been a good candidate had he not gone to Chelsea in the summer of 2004

Legend Roberts

by **Dalglish** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:59 am

The forum is full of opinions and your entitled to yours, however i believe you wil be proved wrong on benitez and right on Gerrard.......

by **82-1074641017** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:03 am

Dalglish wrote:The forum is full of opinions and your entitled to yours, however i believe you wil be proved wrong on benitez and right on Gerrard.......

Even if we win the Premiership, Champions League and League Cup this season I still think Gerrard will be on his way to Real.
I always said this summer that Gerrard was probably on his way to Chelsea but in my opinion he probably got cold feet at the last minute and decided to stay.
Real will most probably be his destination this summer wait and see, the Legend is never wrong remember my Burnley prediction?

Legend Roberts

by **KennyisGod....still** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:14 am

I bet I aint the first to comment on Martin O'neill on this forum, certainly wont be the last, but maybe people (Roberts) need to wake up and smell the coffee....O'neill couldnt guarantee winnin anythin at Celtic even when their only competition is Rangers! FFS, theres two teams in Scotland, and you wouldnt put your mortgage on either finishin above the other, jus depends which way the wind blows half the time. What the hell makes you think O'neills so qualified? Cuz he took Celtic to the EUFA cup final? Houllier won it, and I guess you cheered the day he left?

Why not give it a rest, let others make some positive comments, some encouragin stuff instead of jus slaggin the guys cuz we didn play so well. It ain the end of the world, its his first season, he's got several players that aint been here 5 minutes and twice as many doin the supportin cast for Casualty. Judgin by the miracles youre after, you best pop out around easter and see if Christ's gonna rise again :angry:

by **82-1074641017** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:17 am

KennyisGod....still wrote:I bet I aint the first to comment on Martin O'neill on this forum, certainly wont be the last, but maybe people (Roberts) need to wake up and smell the coffee....O'neill couldnt guarantee winnin anythin at Celtic even when their only competition is Rangers! FFS, theres two teams in Scotland, and you wouldnt put your mortgage on either finishin above the other, jus depends which way the wind blows half the time. What the hell makes you think O'neills so qualified? Cuz he took Celtic to the EUFA cup final? Houllier won it, and I guess you cheered the day he left?

Why not give it a rest, let others make some positive comments, some encouragin stuff instead of jus slaggin the guys cuz we didn play so well. It ain the end of the world, its his first season, he's got several players that aint been here 5 minutes and twice as many doin the supportin cast for Casualty. Judgin by the miracles youre after, you best pop out around easter and see if Christ's gonna rise again

Tell you what when we are midtable you will be one of those dreamers who open the champagne and say we have had a great season, I have seen enough of them in my time coming from Liverpool

Legend Roberts

by **KennyisGod....still** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:38 am

See Roberts, thats where youre wrong. It wont be champagne for mid table, but then it wont be mid table. Did your daddy ever tell you you gotta work to get what you want? No-ones gonna put it on a plate (Abramovich apart) and let you jus take it. You say you're a supporter, I don't actually doubt it too much, but I do doubt the loyalty. No offence meant by it, jus my opinion. When we're good enuff we'll be there, and all the slaggin, booin and general vitriol people such as yourself spout aint gonna do anybody any good whatsoever.
You got a right to say it, I dont dispute it, but i got the right to tell you youre wrong. To tell you that we aint got a God given right to be number 1 jus cuz we once were. We held that number 1 spot far longer than was healthy for English football to be honest, but I couldnt care less about any other clubs feelins.
Where once we were the team to aspire to, now its time to accept we got peers, thats the way of the world and, until we accept that, we can shout, scream and jump up an down til we're blue in the face, it'll do no good.
Benitez didn promise nothin when he came in, he didn tell us to pop the bottle in the chiller ready for May. What he's done since is try to bring some passion into our play, and if you can't see a difrence this season compared to the last few youre watchin with blinkers on.
Theres gonna be blips, gonna be times when he makes mistakes. So we lost away to Burnley, the scum got held at home against a NL side FFS! Ok, they won the replay, but no-one wanted to sack Ferguson.
Brighten up, Liverpools losin a game aint no personal attack on you, why make it a personal thing on a manager tryin to cope against risin odds to return us to former glory?

by **A.B.** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:43 am

Benitez busted his balls off in Spain competing against the likes of two European giants, Madrid and Barca. Valencia couldn't compete with their funds but Rafa pulled it off, not once but twice.

When he came here he knew what was waiting for him, he knew that it wouldn't be the same as it was in Spain. Its a huge task but he hasn't complained instead he's done his best. Is he going to make mistakes? Yes he is, first season and he will learn from those mistakes.

I said this a long time ago on this forum. THIS SEASON IS THE PRE-SEASON FOR THE NEXT SEASON.

What happens this year will help Benitez next year.

by **Alanay** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:06 am

It's no point of sacking a manager in the mid of the season. It caused more damaged. Leeds has expereince it. Newcastle is another. Give time to Rafa. He's a good and technical coach. Hopefully we can still finish 4th.

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