Liverpool FC Forum

[stmichael]

well it's been a while since i've done this so i thought i'd bring it back. as usual, please just answer the following as honestly as possible.


1. If you could choose feeder clubs for LFC, what would they be? (realistic options please).

2. Why was the Boot Room so important to LFC?

3. Bob Paisley is the most successful manager in British football. Could he have done what Shankly did when he arrived at the club, ie: awaken a sleeping giant?

4. We all think of Carragher and Gerrard as the local lads who made it into the team and never forgot where they came from? What other past LFC players were like Carragher and Gerrard in this manner?

5. What's the best LFC match you have ever seen excluding Istanbul, May 2005?


I will nominate somebody for next week later

[EddieC]

1. Don't know exactly who, but I would like to see us tap into the African talent available, so a team from that continent would be fine by me.

2. The Boot room brought continuity, managers who already knew the team & the mentality. We lost that when we went for Souness, and then tried to backtrack by bringing in Evans too late.

3. TBH I wasn't around then & only know what I've read, but IMO Paisley did a good job of carrying on Shankly's work but I'm not sure if he could've done Shankly's job.

4. I know he's not a local lad, but I really feel Jan Molby encaptured the LFC spirit, and even after retiring he never forgot it.

5. 4-3 vs Newcastle, Collymore's winner in the last minute, classic game, great advert for footbal

[flipmode]

1. Tough one, probably in Africa or maybe in Asia

2. Boot room had the managers who already knew the team & the mentality, i agree with EddieC

3. For me maybe? Why not, what he did was fantastic to continue that

4. God

5. 4-3 vs Newcastle, but also the feeling of a goal definatly Gerrard vs Olyimpicas

[Igor Zidane]

1) Crewe , Dario Gradi's track record at spotting and nurturing talent is second to none.

2) Continuity , the whole heart and soul of the club was concieved there.

3) That's a hard one St mick , and i don't know if he could of done what Shanks did to be honest. They were different characters and it takes a certain type to do what Shankly did. Souness tried and failed and Gh had a good crack at it but ultimately failed and Rafa's doing well so far.
All i know is Paislely would have givin it  a damn good try.

4)Tommy Smith, Terry Mc , Jimmy Case. All of that trio, but the one and only that stands above all is Ian Callaghan.
  When you hear the saying cut him open and he's Red  to the core , he's the gent you will be talkin about.

5) As above ,the 4-3 game against the bar codes was an amazing game. Absolute woeful defending from both sides, but some brilliant attacking footy for 90 mins.

[dawson99]

who were the 2 scousers who did the scouser bit on the anfield rap?

[taff]

John Aldridge and was it Ablett


1.  Scouts etc can bring benefits in Africa and Asia etc.  I would firstly like to see closer links with the likes of Crewe with more loan deals regarding our youngsters and expand Crewes youth structure

2.  Shankly once said that the likes of Fagan and Paisley and Evans et al used to have cosy chats with the opposition over a whisky where they "tapped" info, it was also a place to have open and frank discussions regarding tactice and players

3.  No and even Bob admits it.  The power of Shankly's personality was huge although Uncle Bob didnt do too badly 

4.  Quite a few but the ones I remember mostly are supesub, Aldo Ablett in a way and Fowler and Mcmanaman da da da da da

5.  Loads and loads but on telly the Uefa cup final 2001 and live Id probably go for 3-3 against Man Utd.

[dawson99]

yeah taff that was them, true scousers....

[RedorDead]

1. I like our relationship with Crewe, they have produced some excellent talent over the years. Any lower division side that invests in youth is worth striking up a relationship with. Also with his connections I can see rafa building relationships in Spain.

2. As Eddie said it was the continuity that made the system so successful, new managers new the system, the players didn't have to change much and the attitude, style and identity of the club was maintained. Liverpool along with man Utd seem somewhat unique in the 21st century game as still maintaining that unique identity. In this money driven time the likes of Chelsea and even Arsenal have severed all ties to the past and are worse off for it in my opinion. Despite what some might say winning isn't everything. I know the bootroom philosiphy has long been discarded but there remains an unspoken code of conduct at Liverpool which Houllier and Rafa seem to have honoured, the fans play a huge part in this.

3. I am also too young to remember those times....even at 30 my memories begin in the Joe Fagan and Kenny Dalglish era.
All I can say is that managers have many different qualities. Some are man managers, some tacticians, awakening a club like Shanks did is a unique achievement and just because paisley won so much does not necessarily give him the attributes required to do what Shanks did. Sorry if I am way wide of the mark but I am merely theorising.

4. My all time favourite player is Ian Rush and he was just Liverpool Football Club through and through...still is. I guess the number one local lad however is Robbie Fowler, he never forgot his roots and his T-shirt about the dockers showed this, he knew he'd get fined but it meant something to him and the fans loved him for it.

5. Istanbul aside we are spoilt as Liverpool fans with some truly memorable matches. I loved the 1989 FA Cup Final as a kid, 3-3 vs Man Utd was a classic, I thoroughly enjoyed beating Palace 9-0 too in about 91 I think. The UEFA cup final vs Alaves 5-4 was a mental games but hardly top quality. For that I think the first 4-3 vs newcastle was the best, just an unbelievable contest. The second 4-3 was some of the best football I have ever seen from us for 70 minutes and then a near disaster but the first 4-3 was just to and fro and had everyone on the edge of their seats for 90 minutes. Top drawer.

[EddieC]

4.  Quite a few but the ones I remember mostly are supesub, Aldo Ablett in a way and Fowler and Mcmanaman da da da da da

Agree with the rest, but Mcmanaman? Surely he forgot where he came from when he left on a free?

[taff]

4.  Quite a few but the ones I remember mostly are supesub, Aldo Ablett in a way and Fowler and Mcmanaman da da da da da

Agree with the rest, but Mcmanaman? Surely he forgot where he came from when he left on a free?

I know but I cant help but like the guy especially his rarely heard chant 

Personally I think the guy cared but he's not a wear your heart on the sleeve type of personality

[account deleted by request]

1/ USA as their sportsmen are brought up to have  discipline and the right attitude to sport. Players from USA would have no language problems and because of their size would (unlike many asians) have no problems with a physical league like ours.

2/It was a place where ideas could be exchanged informally and where our future managers could learn from the masters.Also it was a place where managers of other teams could be invited and sounded out about players and ideas.

3/NO not in my opinion. Bill Shankly had to turn Liverpool down once because the board picked the players for the club.When he came back to Liverpool the board had to relinquish team selection to Bill or he wouldnt have entertained the job. I dont think Bob Paisley would have been able to stand up to the board and force them to relinquish their power. Bob was already at Liverpool so wouldnt have had the freedom,reputation or record to make such a demand, and with the board selecting the players its very unlikely the club would have progressed.

4/Gerry Byrne/ Ian Callaghan/ Tommy Smith Not the biggest stars at liverpool but the biggest hearts.

5/Liverpool 3 Everton 2 My first derby game. Liverpool had lost the previous home derby 0-2 Whittle and Royal scoring the goals. So when I went to my first derby match and Whittle and Royal both scored again I expected the same result. I saw ALL the Liverpool players heads drop even T. Smiths. Then I heard something I had never experienced before.The Kop erupted with "No surrender". Chant after chant endlessly.Liverpool came back from the dead that day and won 3-2 and I KNOW why. The Kop gave Liverpool the heart and the will to fight that day. It was an incredible experience that I have never forgotten. Words cannot explain the feeling in Anfield that day. I had been to Anfield many times before so it wasnt as if I was new and had never heard the kop roar, but this was something else. I know I couldnt speak the following day and I am sure there were 25000 more in the kop who were just as hoarse.

[stmichael]

my answer to question 2.

have you ever tried playing without boots?

[account deleted by request]

have you ever tried playing without boots

I pour my heart and soul out and thats all you can say!




   

[RedorDead]

have you ever tried playing without boots

I pour my heart and soul out and thats all you can say!




   

I spent literally hours formulating my answers and that's how he answers his own question  

What are your answers by the way Mike?

[stmichael]

What are your answers by the way Mike?

1. A lower level Spanish (eg Albacete) club because we are likely in the first instance to have a higher chance of signing young Spanish players given the obvious appeal of playing/coaching staff nationality. A spanish club would also have the added advantage of being able to offer work permits to South American / African players easier than in the UK due to less onerous regulation of work permits. Giving them the necessary European expeirnce whilst we await sufficient national appearances expeirence to be able to play in the UK.

2. Having a strong team of coaching staff is essential to a winning football team. The strong coaching staff also bred future success as a tailor made replacement in the managerial hotseat was always available when a manager left the job.

3. As previously mentioned, Paisley and Shankly were very different men who both displayed a deep knowledge and understanding of football and had the desire and drive to make Liverpool the best. As for the relative success of both,  Shankly took us from the old Second Division to the pinnacle of English football. Paisley on the other hand took us to the next level in Europe. If Shankly had continued I suspect he would have been as successful as Paisley but I also suspect Paisley could have revived Livepool's fortunes as Shankly did when he came to the club.

4. I'm only relatively young so Owen, Fowler, McManaman to name but a few. There are far too many players to mention before that.

5. Probably the 3-3 game against Manchester United in the 1993-94 season, mainly because we were 3-0 down after 20 minutes and showed magnificent character to come back into the game. As a spectacle, the first 4-3 against Newcastle was the best football match I've ever seen.