aCe' » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:17 am wrote:Sh*t thread with Sh*t opinions from many. No offense guys but most of these arguments are ignorant as fck ! Strip nationality and deport ? Use shariaa law ? You mention Pistorius and OJ Simpson... have you considered the fact that most people who commit crimes (of different types, degrees, etc.) have low incomes, often get inadequate representation, and in many cases end up doing time for crimes they havent committed while others like the 2 you mentioned can afford attorneys who almost certainly get them out of death penalty sentences. The death penalty is often used as a bargaining chip by prosecutors to force false confessions from poor/vulnerable/uneducated/etc. suspects who would rather not put their lives in the hands of underpaid, overworked and incompetent defence council.
I remember recently reading somewhere that 150 or so people have been released from death row because of new evidence that eventually proved their innocence. Same study suggested that in the US alone around 4-5% of those sentenced to death from the mid 1970s till early 2000s were innocent.
Besides hunger for blood, there literally isnt a single reason for anyone to support the death penalty. Every study done on the subject has said the same thing: no difference between long prison sentence and death penalty when it comes to deterrence and fear factor.
THANKS FOR YOUR PATRONISING COMMENTS !!
Ace mate you're entitled to your opinion however you seem to have ignored words such as unquestionable proof when you're quoting the figures of 150 released. I would be interested to see your source.
You also seem to totally agree with what I am saying with regards to Simpson and Pistorius so excuse me if I haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
It's not about hunger for blood. It is certainly not about deterrent or fear factor because absolutely nothing would probably work with the likes of the Rotherham gang. It is about allowing individuals that fail to display the ability to behave like a human being the right to walk amongst us either in jail or when they are finally released. A dangerous dogs law was introduced in this country and certain breeds such as Pit Bulls were put down because of it. Would you happily allow extremely dangerous dogs like this to uncontrollably walk amongst us? I actually rate the Rotherham gang a lot worse than a Pit Bull terrier !!
No doubt you are happy that the likes of the Sutcliffe's, Brady's, West's and the Rotherham gang are all being incarcerated at huge cost to the tax payer when they have absolutely nothing to offer to society other than a potential danger. Please explain to me why any of them have the right to live? They cannot in any form be regarded as normal human beings. Just how much has it cost the taxpayer to keep Brady alive? IN ALL OF THESE CASES THERE WAS UNQUESTIONABLE PROOF AND THAT IS MY MAIN POINT WHICH YOU SEEM TO HAVE OVERLOOKED !!
Personally I think the various styles of capital punishment are disgraceful. Hanging, electric chair, gas chamber, firing squad and the guillotine etc etc have all contributed towards the view that capital punishment is wrong. Other more humane methods would serve the same purpose without the unnecessary drama.
Levi Bellfield who murdered Milly Dowler, is suing for £30,000 after suffering cuts and bruises !! Ace this is the reality of the nanny state that we live in. Your happy with the system and seem to unconvincingly suggest that your views are correct. Forgive me if I don't agree !! Parliamentary votes on the reintroduction of capital punishment have typically been two thirds against and one third for, very broadly speaking. Last time subject was seriously debated a third of MP's subscribe to the view that there is most definitely a single and possibly a lot more reasons for reintroducing capital punishment. No doubt you regard their opinions as s
hit and ignorant.
So back to the question Ace if your daughter or granddaughter was a victim of the Rotherham gang what punishment would you like them to receive ?