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by **ivor_the_injun** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:52 pm

This thread is bang out of order, I'm afraid. From what I've seen and heard from the match, he was time-wasting fairly legitimately. He may well have rubbed their fans up the wrong way, but he was playing against them. It's his job.

Big Sam made the point very well - had Bolton been 1 down and one of Middlesbrough's old pros starting taking their time about things, no-one would've batted an eyelid. Just because Diouf has a bad rep, there's absolutely no reason to beat on him for doing what any coach worth their salt would have been bawling out at him to do. One thing that's frustrated me continually about LFC in recent years is that we simply cannot keep the ball in the corner for a minute or two at the end of matches, and it's been to our cost so many times.

If you think he can't play, join onto one of the million threads about that. Posting up phone-in fiction and then turning it into an anti-Diouf diatribe is just shallow.

by **Fowler_E7** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:53 pm

the referee jeff winter from the boro, bolton match called diouff a disgrace to the game in a newspaper article, he said he was constantly waisting time and play acting and trying to get others booked, he described his actions as against the spirit of the game

by **stmichael** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:55 pm

ivor_the_injun wrote:Posting up phone-in fiction and then turning it into an anti-Diouf diatribe is just shallow.

why would someone make this up exactly?

it's one thing lying over the radio but writing a letter of complaint to the football club is no joke.

by **ivor_the_injun** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:00 pm

But like you said, it was a caller to a phone-in that claimed to have written a letter of complaint. So it's actually the same thing. I don't believe for one minute that the caller has written a letter of complaint.

How many times have you heard callers to phone-ins say that they're going to tear up their season tickets? If 5% of those that say they're going to actually do, I'd be stunned.

by **jim_morrison_supported_liverpool** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:00 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:the referee jeff winter from the boro, bolton match called diouff a disgrace to the game in a newspaper article, he said he was constantly waisting time and play acting and trying to get others booked, he described his actions as agaist the spirit of the game

ivor the injun, were you waqtchin the same game??

did you not see all the rest of his antics.

by the way, it isnt actually HIS JOB to wind up the crowd. ok its his job maybe to time waste and win the game, when you do this though you have to expect sh*t off the crowd.

the reason why everyone had a go at him personally for wasting time was cos he'd been a c*nt all game. not even cos of his bad rep. and sam allardyce is a whinger. he talks like a teenager sometimes when he should just accept things.

by **stmichael** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:06 pm

ivor_the_injun wrote:But like you said, it was a caller to a phone-in that claimed to have written a letter of complaint. So it's actually the same thing. I don't believe for one minute that the caller has written a letter of complaint.

How many times have you heard callers to phone-ins say that they're going to tear up their season tickets? If 5% of those that say they're going to actually do, I'd be stunned.

i agree to an extent ivor, but the main difference is that this was a local phone in with local fans. everyone who phones up is local and is a 100% fan, unlike these people who phone up 606 week in week out.

we'll see anyway. his behaviour on the pitch as already stated was just ridiculous. i was waiting for a 50-50 ball with him and someone like ray parlour so that parlour could legitimatly "rough him up" a bit.

by **ivor_the_injun** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:06 pm

Like I say, I didn't see the whole game - just brief highlights.

For the record - I have no problem with him time-wasting so long as he's doing it when his own team has the ball. I'm not a big follower of hacking down players to keep the opposition away from goal, but I do accept that it's part of the game, and he's far from alone in that.

Anything else he may have done during the game, I can't comment on without having seen it, but to be honest I don't much care. If he misbehaved in an LFC shirt, I'd have plenty to say about it, believe me.

by **Red_Si** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:09 pm

Sam Alladyce says that Diouf will leave Bolton at the end of the season because they cannot afford Liverpool's asking price for a permanent move. :alien:

by **stmichael** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:10 pm

ivor_the_injun wrote:For the record - I have no problem with him time-wasting so long as he's doing it when his own team has the ball.

i agree that there's nothing in the rules stating how long a player has to run over and take a corner. however to saunter over there and then do his shoelaces up was just laughable. however he's a professional footballer and like every player, he'll push the rules to the limit. it's up to the referees to be strong and either warn the player or add odd the sufficiant time at the end of the 90 minutes.

by **ivor_the_injun** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:10 pm

stmichael wrote:
ivor_the_injun wrote:But like you said, it was a caller to a phone-in that claimed to have written a letter of complaint. So it's actually the same thing. I don't believe for one minute that the caller has written a letter of complaint.

How many times have you heard callers to phone-ins say that they're going to tear up their season tickets? If 5% of those that say they're going to actually do, I'd be stunned.

i agree to an extent ivor, but the main difference is that this was a local phone in with local fans. everyone who phones up is local and is a 100% fan, unlike these people who phone up 606 week in week out.

we'll see anyway. his behaviour on the pitch as already stated was just ridiculous. i was waiting for a 50-50 ball with him and someone like ray parlour so that parlour could legitimatly "rough him up" a bit.

So I am right in thinking that we are to believe every word that comes from the mouths of people that are clearly wound up after matches their teams have been involved in, providing it's to a local station?

"I'm writing a letter of complaint to the club".

Course you are, mate. :laugh:

by **stmichael** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:13 pm

ivor_the_injun wrote:
stmichael wrote:
ivor_the_injun wrote:But like you said, it was a caller to a phone-in that claimed to have written a letter of complaint. So it's actually the same thing. I don't believe for one minute that the caller has written a letter of complaint.

How many times have you heard callers to phone-ins say that they're going to tear up their season tickets? If 5% of those that say they're going to actually do, I'd be stunned.

i agree to an extent ivor, but the main difference is that this was a local phone in with local fans. everyone who phones up is local and is a 100% fan, unlike these people who phone up 606 week in week out.

we'll see anyway. his behaviour on the pitch as already stated was just ridiculous. i was waiting for a 50-50 ball with him and someone like ray parlour so that parlour could legitimatly "rough him up" a bit.

So I am right in thinking that we are to believe every word that comes from the mouths of people that are clearly wound up after matches their teams have been involved in, providing it's to a local station?

"I'm writing a letter of complaint to the club".

Course you are, mate.

you can believe whatever you want mate, it don't bother me in the slightest.

by **Redrider** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:04 pm

jim_morrison_supported_liverpool wrote:But diouff didnt have the attitude. it was all wrong. he thinks he's big time and LFC dont do players like this. yes he mmay be better than what he showed for us but not by much.

but its more about the attitude.totally wrong.no understanding or appreciation of the club on his part.

Bang on Jim,
Bad attitude, not professional at all, just a like a cazy teenager let lose with money in his pocket. I don't think we have seen it all from him yet, he will finish in some kind of scandle somewhere along the line. Just hope it does not rebound on LFC.

by **SouthernScouser** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:22 pm

I had very high hopes for Diouf - but have been permanently scarred by his antics since joining Liverpool.
Following the Championships & confirmation that we had signed Diouf, I went out for a birthday meal. My father in law presented me (with what I thought at the time) was the best present in the world - the black away strip with Diouf's name + no on the back.

Now I can only wear it in the house cause I get so much stick from everyone at work - & rightly so with some of the stunts he's pulled.

Shame really - I still remember how chuffed I was to get that shirt.

by **SouthernScouser** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:24 pm

I had very high hopes for Diouf - but have been permanently scarred by his antics since joining Liverpool.
Following the Championships & confirmation that we had signed Diouf, I went out for a birthday meal. My father in law presented me (with what I thought at the time) was the best present in the world - the black away strip with Diouf's name + no on the back.

Now I can only wear it in the house cause I get so much stick from everyone at work - & rightly so with some of the stunts he's pulled.

Shame really - I still remember how chuffed I was to get that shirt.

by **SouthernScouser** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:26 pm

I had very high hopes for Diouf - but have been permanently scarred by his antics since joining Liverpool.
Following the Championships & confirmation that we had signed Diouf, I went out for a birthday meal. My father in law presented me (with what I thought at the time) was the best present in the world - the black away strip with Diouf's name + no on the back.

Now I can only wear it in the house cause I get so much stick from everyone at work - & rightly so with some of the stunts he's pulled.

Shame really - I still remember how chuffed I was to get that shirt.

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