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by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:15 pm

signing at least one CM has got to be our priority in january, the only reason we are so high in the table is that our strike force has us punching above our weight.

by **maguskwt** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:38 am

This Ravel Morrison from West Ham, he seems like a very good player... very good on the ball... and can pass with ease, can dribble and shoot... not sure why the mancs let him go though... heard that discipline is not there and that's probably reason enough for fergie...

by **Stu the Red** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:02 am

maguskwt » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:38 am wrote:This Ravel Morrison from West Ham, he seems like a very good player... very good on the ball... and can pass with ease, can dribble and shoot... not sure why the mancs let him go though... heard that discipline is not there and that's probably reason enough for fergie...

Absolutely not in a million years.

The lad is an absolute gem of a footballer, but he has a major attitude problem and is a complete no no. He thinks he's some sort of gangster and hangs around with complete and utter scum bags who stand around on street corners with knives and in gangs and deal drugs.

I'm all for taking a chance on players who have flaws, but there are limits, he's twice as bad as Joey Barton and therefore despite the talent is not worth the slightest amount of consideration unless he has a complete and utter personality transplant.

Its a shame, because the lad will probably end up in prison before he reaches his potential, which quite frankly could be as a top top player.

by **maguskwt** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:15 am

StuYesThatStu » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:02 am wrote:
maguskwt » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:38 am wrote:This Ravel Morrison from West Ham, he seems like a very good player... very good on the ball... and can pass with ease, can dribble and shoot... not sure why the mancs let him go though... heard that discipline is not there and that's probably reason enough for fergie...

Absolutely not in a million years.

The lad is an absolute gem of a footballer, but he has a major attitude problem and is a complete no no. He thinks he's some sort of gangster and hangs around with complete and utter scum bags who stand around on street corners with knives and in gangs and deal drugs.

I'm all for taking a chance on players who have flaws, but there are limits, he's twice as bad as Joey Barton and therefore despite the talent is not worth the slightest amount of consideration unless he has a complete and utter personality transplant.

Its a shame, because the lad will probably end up in prison before he reaches his potential, which quite frankly could be as a top top player.

That's a shame then... cause he seems to have it all in terms of ability...

by **Stu the Red** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:22 am

maguskwt » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:15 am wrote:
StuYesThatStu » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:02 am wrote:
maguskwt » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:38 am wrote:This Ravel Morrison from West Ham, he seems like a very good player... very good on the ball... and can pass with ease, can dribble and shoot... not sure why the mancs let him go though... heard that discipline is not there and that's probably reason enough for fergie...

Absolutely not in a million years.

The lad is an absolute gem of a footballer, but he has a major attitude problem and is a complete no no. He thinks he's some sort of gangster and hangs around with complete and utter scum bags who stand around on street corners with knives and in gangs and deal drugs.

I'm all for taking a chance on players who have flaws, but there are limits, he's twice as bad as Joey Barton and therefore despite the talent is not worth the slightest amount of consideration unless he has a complete and utter personality transplant.

Its a shame, because the lad will probably end up in prison before he reaches his potential, which quite frankly could be as a top top player.

That's a shame then... cause he seems to have it all in terms of ability...

The lad is a fantastic player mate, one of the best players the country has produced in years. Great touch, brain and skill and he's quick with vision.

Unfortunately, people with his type of personality have a self destruct button and never ever grow up and learn from their mistakes.

by **woof woof !** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:26 am

maguskwt » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:38 am wrote:This Ravel Morrison from West Ham, he seems like a very good player... very good on the ball... and can pass with ease, can dribble and shoot... not sure why the mancs let him go though... heard that discipline is not there and that's probably reason enough for fergie...

I read that Ferguson let him go as in his opinion "for his own good Morrison needs to get away from Manchester"

Article in the Mirror on line suggest that (as Stu has said) Morrison could be a whole bag of trouble.

Ravel Morrison requested special dispensation from the Premier League to have his first name on the back of his West Ham shirt.

And the name change was down to Ravel’s wish to distance himself from his dad after their relationship had deteriorated.

An earlier similar request to the Football League was turned down on the basis that he had already been named as Morrison.

But the Premier League sanctioned the switch and it appears to be part of the lad turning over a new leaf.

Morrison’s troubled past was one reason why Sir Alex Ferguson finally decided to let the youngster leave Manchester United in 2012.

There were allegations that Morrison had even gone to the lengths of securing a restraining order against his parents.

And, prior to joining West Ham, he was living with his grandparents, in Denton, Greater Manchester.

It appears the rift with his mum has now subsided, even though he has a police caution for assaulting her.

West Ham boss Sam Allardyce has revealed that the club follow Morrison’s twitter account to see what he’s up to. He landed himself in trouble in February last year after posting a homophobic threat and was fined £7,000 by the FA.

But trouble still stalks him, as, last week, he was involved in an ugly on-field row with Under-21 team-mate Wilfried Zaha that was halted by the interjection of team-mate Nathan Redmond.

from Mirror online

by **parchpea** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:28 am

Saw that West Ham v Man City and if we had Diame and Morrison in there you would see a different Liverpool.

Our midfield is pretty weak in terms of power and legs and in part this is why Rodgers has put an extra one in at
centre half as he knows teams are getting through the middle dead easy.

Not saying those players specifically but pointing out there are a lot of footballers and combinations in that area
superior to ours and Henderson, Lucas and Allen are not really good enough for a club with top 4 aspirations, and
unfortunately whilst Gerrard still has influence he cant cover the ground.

I did hear Rodgers raving about Morrison last week so clearly likes the player whatever people think about his off
field history.

Certainly massive room for improvement in midfield but its getting them in with us.

by **stmichael** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:32 am

I'd go for Schneiderlin from Southampton. Great player imo. Not sure what he'd cost though.

Pretty sure we'll be back in for Will Hughes at some stage aswell. He's already better technically at 18 than the majority of English players around his age. Absolutely runs the show for Derby week in week out and is a massive Liverpool fan.

by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:34 pm

It's good buying players for the future like Hughes but we need players for the now. Established players.

And if your looking at Southampton then I would prefer to look at Lallana and Wanyama

And I think Morrison is this years Cleverly - another youngster who scores a good goal and does well but then gets over hyped.

by **parchpea** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:00 pm

Benny The Noon » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:34 pm wrote:It's good buying players for the future like Hughes but we need players for the now. Established players.

And if your looking at Southampton then I would prefer to look at Lallana and Wanyama

And I think Morrison is this years Cleverly - another youngster who scores a good goal and does well but then gets over hyped.

Completely agree we need players for now as we have enough young lads in reserve.

Morrison would walk in our side but is overhyped being London based and is poor mans Barkley, who is quality but northern.

Midfield has been a low priority for us but with attack and defence in reasonable shape now is in need of an upgrade and
hopefully in January.

by **sgs** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:15 pm

What we are lacking is the 3rd midfield player. Hendo has worked really hard at it, but he needs at least one more year. Missing out on Henrikh was huge IMO.

We need to go back and get a player of similar quality if possible in the January window.

Koke at Atletico Madrid would be huge addition...

I will even consider Sneijder who is looking to play at a higher level than Galatasaray to enhance his world cup chances

by **Stu the Red** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:04 pm

Benny The Noon » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:34 pm wrote:It's good buying players for the future like Hughes but we need players for the now. Established players.

And if your looking at Southampton then I would prefer to look at Lallana and Wanyama

And I think Morrison is this years Cleverly - another youngster who scores a good goal and does well but then gets over hyped.

That comment proves you've either never seen Morrison play, or don't have a clue about football.

Which one is it?

by **Kenny Kan** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:17 am

We have to revert back to four at the back, the formation against Newcastle hindered us, here's why:

http://www.footyplace.com/features/live ... 1007269434

by **Stu the Red** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:41 am

That article is a load of rubbish from a stato who doesn't understand the game.

There is more than one way the players can move, there is more than one way the shape of the team can chance. It explained well at times why certain things didn't work but was completely biased against the things that did. It also fails to take into account the positives.

3-5-2 used properly is a fantastic formation that can allow you to dominate and control the opposition and counter attack with devastating effect.

Liverpool under Evans in the 90's used that system excellently, the problem then was the standard of players that were playing in it.

by **Kenny Kan** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:31 am

Unfortunately I don't think it was complete rubbish and had valid points.

The system against Newcastle was our undoing, the same system which we used against Palace and getting analysed in the article.

The 3 cb's leave us a man short elsewhere on the pitch, notably in midfield where our options and lack of movement becomes a disadvantage because the extra player is at the back - that's why we couldn't control the game. It wasn't until Sahko came off and we reverted to 4 at the back for Alberto, when we finally started to press them back and dominate proceedings. Prior to this, the whole system played into Newcastle's hands, hindered us hence why we never got going - nothing clicked. Even with Coutinho in for the ineffective Moses we'd still be a numerical player short in the midfield and this would increase the opponents advantage to close us down better and make us huff and puff our way through attacks.

Rodgers needs to go to four at the back, still allowing the fullbacks to bomb on, with the extra man back in midfield to give us more options and to make it harder for teams to close us down.

4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 would be the better formations to go with and I think Rodgers will change this for WBA, or at least he should do.

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