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Deal for Tiago Ilori looking very close. Think this kid could turn out to be very good

Doeboy » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:51 am wrote:Deal for Tiago Ilori looking very close. Think this kid could turn out to be very good

any links mate please to have a read ?

cardiff-red » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:00 am wrote:

Doeboy » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:51 am wrote:Deal for Tiago Ilori looking very close. Think this kid could turn out to be very good

any links mate please to have a read ?

this is all i could find on it

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... iago-Ilori

hopefully we can get this done as its obviously a player rodgers wants. he has been linked with him all summer but yet we are struggling to match the asking price which is a whopping, astronomical, potential club damaging £6million quid.

Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers will look to strengthen his defensive options by looking to lure Man City centre-back Joleon Lescott to Anfield according to Sports Direct News.

The experienced former Everton man is likely to see limited action at the Etihad Stadium under new boss Manuel Pellegrini though the 31 year old has started both Man City's opening Premier League fixtures he has only done so because young Serbian Matija Nastastic has been ruled out with an ankle injury and with experienced Argentine Martin Demichelis said to be on his way to the Premier League side it would appear to spell the end of the England international's chances.

Lescott may feel his chances of securing regular football would be more easily achieved back in Merseyside and clearly with a World Cup on the horizon a move to play as regularly as possible is key.

Though a move for Lescott certainly doesn't adhere to Liverpool's youthful transfer policy this may be a move that Rodgers pushes for as he looks to secure that all important top four finish.

Source: CaughtOffside

Lescott?
I cannot see City letting him go with Kompany injured, bearing in mind their defence problems last weekend also.

Sounds like we are just getting linked with anyone for the sake of it at the moment.

@JackSear (writer for the bib theorists) : 'Liverpool have offered 23m for Yarmolenko. (@dimarzio)'

yeah right.

never seen anything of Yarmolenko

is he any good?

cardiff-red » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:06 am wrote:never seen anything of Yarmolenko

is he any good?

feck knows 

From the obligatory youtube clips he looks pretty good.

Benny The Noon » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:15 pm wrote:So it doesn't have the increase of the telly money then  and you say this years accounts will look positive - lets celebrate that the books look positive whilst the team struggles around mid table.

I have read the article before and it's full of presumptions and guess work for this years figures. It's not the official figures and seen it been dismissed by many ( not on Rawk off course )

We are a football club looking to be successful - the owners have more interest in balancing the books. They give the club money to spend but it's a loan !

The sooner they leave the better IMO - we won't get anywhere with them - they banked on FFP working and it won't

Avoiding the point again.

Here's another source if you like - http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ub-by-club

LIVERPOOL

Accounts for the 10 months to 31 July 2012

Ownership: Fenway Sports Group, registered in the USA, of which John W Henry is the principal shareholder

Turnover: 5th in league, £169m (down from £184m in 2011)

Gate and matchday income: £42m

TV and broadcasting: £63m

Commercial activities: £64m

Wage bill: 5th, £119m

Wages as proportion of turnover: 70%

Loss before tax: £41m (following £49m in 2011)

Net debt: £87m

Interest payable: £4m

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So the fact remains your argument about increased turnover is pointless, 100% pointless whilst we are at a loss every season.

...and before you pipe up about the increased TV money, again that is pointless. We aren't getting £40M extra - enough to put us into profit.

One can only assume from all this money malarky, that the rumour about a decrease in cost for the pie & a pint at half time is purely speculation and has no credibility at all. Talksport, Twitter & Sky spreading false hope.

Chelsea striker Fernando Torres has been linked with a surprise return to Liverpool while Arsenal are also interested in the Blues attacker, according to Portuguese newspaper A Bola.

Citing reports in Spain, the Portuguese news outlet claims the Spaniard could be ready to leave Stamford Bridge after three and a half years at the west London club.

And Liverpool are reportedly keen to secure a cut-price return for a player they sold for £50m in the 2011 January transfer window. But Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is reportedly also aware of Torres's potential availability and is considering a bid.

The Gunners have come under huge pressure from their own fans this transfer window, and with less than a week to go, Wenger wants a big-money signing to strengthen his squad.

They've been linked with several strikers but have so far been forced to rely on the in-form Olivier Giroud.

But injuries to Arsenal's squad this week have underlined the fragility of an understaffed club, and Wenger insists he's still in the market for new players.

Liverpool, in contrast, have been busy already this window - snapping up Luis Alberto and Iago Aspas from La Liga clubs and Kolo Toure on a free transfer - but they could be on the lookout for another forward to lead the line.

Meanwhile at Chelsea, Jose Mourinho is expected to complete the signing of Samuel Eto'o from Anzhi Makhachkala this week.

And considering Torres started just one of three Chelsea matches this season, speculation is mounting that the Chelsea boss is willing to let the club record signing leave before the end of the window.

Source: GiveMeSport

The Sky Bet traders have sharpened their scissors and slashed the price on Victor Moses leaving Chelsea for Southampton. He's now 6/1 from 25/1 for a move to St. Mary’s. Liverpool remain favourites to land the winger

SouthCoastShankly » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:14 am wrote:

Benny The Noon » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:15 pm wrote:So it doesn't have the increase of the telly money then  and you say this years accounts will look positive - lets celebrate that the books look positive whilst the team struggles around mid table.

I have read the article before and it's full of presumptions and guess work for this years figures. It's not the official figures and seen it been dismissed by many ( not on Rawk off course )

We are a football club looking to be successful - the owners have more interest in balancing the books. They give the club money to spend but it's a loan !

The sooner they leave the better IMO - we won't get anywhere with them - they banked on FFP working and it won't

Avoiding the point again.

Here's another source if you like - http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ub-by-club

LIVERPOOL

Accounts for the 10 months to 31 July 2012

Ownership: Fenway Sports Group, registered in the USA, of which John W Henry is the principal shareholder

Turnover: 5th in league, £169m (down from £184m in 2011)

Gate and matchday income: £42m

TV and broadcasting: £63m

Commercial activities: £64m

Wage bill: 5th, £119m

Wages as proportion of turnover: 70%

Loss before tax: £41m (following £49m in 2011)

Net debt: £87m

Interest payable: £4m

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So the fact remains your argument about increased turnover is pointless, 100% pointless whilst we are at a loss every season.

...and before you pipe up about the increased TV money, again that is pointless. We aren't getting £40M extra - enough to put us into profit.

It's the same information regurgitated -

When the owners took over we were left with 37mil of debt to pay for stadium costs - why didnt the owners pay that debt of instead of getting more loans and overdraft facilities from the bank increasing our debt ?

"Subsequently, LFC has a bank debt of £23.1M and can now borrow an additional £86M for working capital (namely, acquiring and financing players) from the £120M facility."

Where is the owners "own" money ? Are they actually going to spend any of their "own" money to try and improve the club ? They bought the club and suggested that CL is needed to get the club successful - well then put some money into the club that will allow the club to spend on players to achieve CL football and then the club can achieve profits and with increased revenue the club can flourish but reducing wages , only spending what we earn in terms of player sales isn't going to move us into the CL. Buying £6mil or £8mil players isn't going to get us CL, it will though as you have highlighted give us a nice "balance sheet" but that doesn't equal a nice successful team.

We need to play catch up - we don't have a squad that has constantly reached the CL over the last 5 years , we don't have a player Madrid will pay £90mil for - the owners need the decide how serious they are about making the club a success and what they want long term - we need a stadium that will increase our income and we need a squad that will produce CL football - to get those the owners will need to provide funding - they bought the club now lets see them show some serious intent and ambition to back their manager. If they aren't going to back him with funding from their own pockets then BR hasn't got a prayer - he will have to work miracles never witnessed before in the prem. He knows the team needs more backing financially and has said it load and clear - if the owners aren't willing to dip into their pockets to improve the club they own then sell to people who are willing to improve the club.

Tor-Kristian Karlsen seems to really know his stuff about european footballers. He is a Norwegian football scout and executive, formerly the chief executive and sporting director at Monaco. He has previously worked as a scout for Grasshopper, Watford, Bayer Leverkusen, Hannover and Zenit St Petersburg

A few tweets from him:

Tor-Kristian Karlsen ‏@karlsentk

Find it hard to believe Liverpool have bid for Yarmolenko. Was heavily touted around earlier in the summer, Dinamo clearly wants to sell. I know several Premier League (even mid-table ones) and continental sides (French, German and Italian) who said "thanks, but no thanks"

[it] seems odd that Liverpool would sign players from Ukraine, hardly a "value market" - rather the absolute contrary. Especially since Liverpool have recently done well in identifying "undervalued" players in the market (Sturridge, Coutinho, Aspas)

To clarify: I certainly wouldn't have spent £20M on Yarmolenko - decent player, but not worth anywhere near that even in this crazy market

And ultimately, and most importantly; Yarmolenko wouldn't really improve the Liverpool first 11. Strange one to me (if confirmed, obviously)




Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC @karlsentk 
one year left on his contract too, but Yarmolenko definitely a player #LFC are monitoring.




Andy Heaton ‏@Andrew_Heaton
Liverpool now in curious position of maybe having to overspend on 3rd/4th choice as a result of sticking to their guns with 1st/2nd choice.

Liverpool have opened talks with Sporting Lisbon over Tiago Ilori and Ajax for Toby Alderweireld as the club look to strengthen their defensive options.

The Reds, who are already without the injured Martin Skrtel and Sebastian Coates, lost Kolo Toure to a groin problem this week and are short of centre back cover.

But manager Brendan Rodgers hopes to rectify that with the double signing of Sporting ace Illori and Ajax hard man Alderweireld.

Illori, a Portugal under-20 international, was born in London and is keen to try his hand in the Premier League after breaking through in Lisbon.

Liverpool are believed to be ready to offer £6million for his services, and believe he would accept a switch to Anfield over the Spanish clubs who are tracking him.

A deal for Alderweireld is more complicated, with Atletico Madrid and Roma both already in negotiations over a switch, but the player has admitted his desire to play for Liverpool before - and that could be key.

Liverpool are expected to put in a £10million bid before the weekend, but consider PSG's Mamadou Sakho as another option if the transfer doesn't go ahead.

Source: Metro