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by **eds** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:18 am

Boxscarf » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:37 pm wrote:There will come a time when Liverpool supporters will start to become incredibly unhappy with Fenway Sports Group, some of our supporters need to go onto a Boston Red Sox forum and see what those fans have to say about Fenway Sports Group. They may have won 2 championships and have had a major stadium redevelopment, but their fans are deeply unsatisfied with Fenway Sports Group.

To me they're just as bad as Hicks and Gillett, they're going to bring this club crashing to its knees, because they are not willing to do what is necessary to get this club back into the upper echelons of English and European football. We've been a mid-table team for the past three-and-a-half years and I just cannot see that changing anytime soon. You cannot own a football club like Liverpool without needing to invest your own money into the club. You don't have to go OTT like Abramovich or Monsur have done at their clubs, but you need to dip your hand in the pocket, even if it is for just £6m to sign Clint Dempsey.

I can see us finishing lower than last season's 8th place this season and whilst the players and the manager must take their share of responsibility, so must Fenway Sports Group for not backing 'their man' from the get go.

To me Fenway Sports Group are just unfit to own a club as Abramovich and Monsur are, their penny-pinching policies will drag this club into the abyss.

To add to this, its obvious that if we are to attract quality players to our club (with no CL involvement), we will need to do another major spend at one point. If you actually look at our net spend FSG have hardly put in any real investment to go out and attract these types of players.

They really need to back Brendan beyond the latest transfer window with some really spending power to get us back into Europe from 2014 onwards.

by **dundreamin** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:29 am

Houllier won both cups and a UEFA cup in 2001ffs

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:11 pm

dundreamin » Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:29 am wrote:Houllier won both cups and a UEFA cup in 2001ffs

yeah he did! for some reason i keep forgetting about houllier, because the last couple of years of his reign were so poor i`ve somehow gotten it into my subconcious that he didnt have any success at all but in his first few years here he was very successfull, he even finshed second in the league once as well, finishing above man utd, not many liverpool managers have finished above united in the last 20 years.

by **dundreamin** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:18 am

He stays in Liverpool quite a lot. I have met him a few times and he's a gentleman. He also still has a red heart

by **7_Kewell** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:53 am

dundreamin » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:18 am wrote:He stays in Liverpool quite a lot. I have met him a few times and he's a gentleman. He also still has a red heart

I always liked Houllier, but he wasn't ever the same after his heart problems. I really hope he doesn't return to management, because his body isn't up to it anymore, sadly.

by **alwayslfc** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:10 am

I found Houllier's style of play was very practical, just play to win with boring, defensive football. I didn't find Liverpool to be a joy to watch but we could win games with Houllier and if my memory is right, we qualified for CL every season when he was in charge. My only problem with him was, we didn't win the PL with him.

by **lakes10** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:18 am

dundreamin » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:18 am wrote:He stays in Liverpool quite a lot. I have met him a few times and he's a gentleman. He also still has a red heart

Steven Gerrard still meets up with him a lot, there was a photos posted on a forum the other wek of them both at Steven Gerrards house.

by **devaney** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:00 pm

alwayslfc » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:10 am wrote:I found Houllier's style of play was very practical, just play to win with boring, defensive football. I didn't find Liverpool to be a joy to watch but we could win games with Houllier and if my memory is right, we qualified for CL every season when he was in charge. My only problem with him was, we didn't win the PL with him.

His style of play was so boring that if it had been a West End play it would have closed after the first night! Good old GH did his very best to lose all three cup finals with dire displays against Arsenal, Birmingham and in the UEFA Cup Final but somehow we managed to win through. I think we used up all of our nine lives that year !!

by **Boocity** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:39 pm

Houlier lost it when at the end of the 01-02 season after we came 2nd and everyone was expecting us to push for the title the next season, he didn't sign Anelka, lost gary mac, gave away jari and signed Diouf and diao based on one game at the world cup and signed the 'new' henri, Cheyrou

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:46 pm

Boocity » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:39 am wrote:Houlier lost it when at the end of the 01-02 season after we came 2nd and everyone was expecting us to push for the title the next season, he didn't sign Anelka, lost gary mac, gave away jari and signed Diouf and diao based on one game at the world cup and signed the 'new' henri, Cheyrou

annelka was absolutely brilliant in that spell he had at the club, he was our best player and considering we had michael owen and steven gerrard at the time that was no mean feat. it was when we had annelka playing for us that we finished second above man united.
with annelka and owen leading the line we went on a run from the new year to the end of the season which saw us win 13 games out of 15 with just 1 loss (spurs away) and 1 draw (everton away, annelka scored our goal in a 1-1 draw).
those 13 wins included a win at old trafford and big wins away from home against the likes of ipswich (6-0) and leeds (4-0, when they had the likes of rio ferdinand and harry kewell playing for them), we also comfortably beat good sides like chelsea, newcastle and blackburn at anfield.
i remember a couple of years ago when he was still playing for chelsea an interviewer asked him of all the clubs he had played for which was his favourite, was it arsenal, chelsea or madrid?
annelka said it was none of them, he said it was liverpool. he said he was devastated when he left anfield and he would have loved to have spent his entire career here, he said the club just had something special about it that even madrid didnt have.

by **Boocity** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:26 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:46 pm wrote:
Boocity » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:39 am wrote:Houlier lost it when at the end of the 01-02 season after we came 2nd and everyone was expecting us to push for the title the next season, he didn't sign Anelka, lost gary mac, gave away jari and signed Diouf and diao based on one game at the world cup and signed the 'new' henri, Cheyrou

annelka was absolutely brilliant in that spell he had at the club, he was our best player and considering we had michael owen and steven gerrard at the time that was no mean feat. it was when we had annelka playing for us that we finished second above man united.
with annelka and owen leading the line we went on a run from the new year to the end of the season which saw us win 13 games out of 15 with just 1 loss (spurs away) and 1 draw (everton away, annelka scored our goal in a 1-1 draw).
those 13 wins included a win at old trafford and big wins away from home against the likes of ipswich (6-0) and leeds (4-0, when they had the likes of rio ferdinand and harry kewell playing for them), we also comfortably beat good sides like chelsea, newcastle and blackburn at anfield.
i remember a couple of years ago when he was still playing for chelsea an interviewer asked him of all the clubs he had played for which was his favourite, was it arsenal, chelsea or madrid?
annelka said it was none of them, he said it was liverpool. he said he was devastated when he left anfield and he would have loved to have spent his entire career here, he said the club just had something special about it that even madrid didnt have.

I was totally gutted when we didn't sign Anelka, I agree he was brilliant for us, I never wanted Diouf and that whole summer transfer debacle was a disaster

by **Thommo's perm** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:23 pm

Boocity » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:39 am wrote:Houlier lost it when at the end of the 01-02 season after we came 2nd and everyone was expecting us to push for the title the next season, he didn't sign Anelka, lost gary mac, gave away jari and signed Diouf and diao based on one game at the world cup and signed the 'new' henri, Cheyrou

Jari Litmanen was one of the finest players ever to pull a red shirt on
Houllier made a humungous mistake in not playing him and then letting him go
And Cheyrou was the 'new ' Zidane, not Henry...
:;):

by **Boxscarf** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:59 pm

I didn't remember Anelka fondly, I remember just 4 goals being scored in 21 matches though.

by **eds** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:25 pm

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1288191?cc=3436

Interesting read, but could be complete rubbish.

If true, 12 million is not enough to get us challenging for 4th this season.

Pity because if we signed another quality winger or attacking midfielder we would be in with a possibility. :down:

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:39 pm

eds » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:25 pm wrote:http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1288191?cc=3436

Interesting read, but could be complete rubbish.

If true, 12 million is not enough to get us challenging for 4th this season.

Pity because if we signed another quality winger or attacking midfielder we would be in with a possibility.

if our better players hit form we are more than good enough to challenge for a top 4 spot, even without more additions to the squad.
the problem has been that too many of them have been out of form, and out of form for a long time as well.
but now there seems to be one or two signs that things are picking up, the likes of gerrard, reina, downing and henderson have definately improved recently and added to the consistent performers like luis, johnno, agger and skrtel we are finally starting to look like a side.
if sturridge can hit the ground running and maybe weigh in with 10 or so goals between now and the end of the season and our key players like gerrard and suarez can keep their current form going we wont be a million miles away come may.

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