Liverpool FC Forum

7_Kewell » Sun May 20, 2012 2:55 pm wrote:

Igor Zidane » Sun May 20, 2012 2:32 pm wrote:He's my choice after rafa . Needs proper backing like  kewwell said , also needs patience and time. I dont know if he'll get all of them if i'm honest.

The board are implying that the next manager will be part of a (yet another) five year plan.

Every time I hear "five year plan" I think of draconian measures being forced in by some crazy dictator that ends up in total disaster 1 year later.

i think the safest option is rafa. If they want CL football he`ll provide it. He` proved he can do it, with a half decent budget plus players sells, which was more than he managed on last time i think he could well bring in a few players that would make us CL league again. He proved in his past jobs he likes a big man, up top, atleast as an option so it think he`d like to work with carrol.
I dont personaly think all our fooball under rafa was dier to watch, he`s a tatactition so sometimes your going to get a different aproach, but for the most part we were winning, the football we payed in 09 was great to watch, 5-0  against real followed up by a 4-1 agaist united, we were rolling over  teams, won are last 8 or 9 games, so unlucky not to win,  but then what little money there was dried up and we affectively had to sell to buy. When you conider some of the players we missed out on bacause of the difference of 2 mil or the like, which would have been structured payment anyway, like daniel alves, could have had him for 12mil, i think we ended up spening the money on dirk, the list is endless
I`d take him over AVB in a fkin heart beat, the guy spent a lot of money and he had chelsea all over the  place, they were lost under him, he`s proven nothing, just his name being mentioned is offensive....... ruined chelsea but dont worry you`ll get the liverpool job, their second tier 
unless a current manager is in the running who has the kind of experience and success we need, id go rafa all day long....... Martines thats another one, he`s fkin 3rd tier.
bring back rafa and back him, we`ve got a better squad now imo than the one he inherited that he won the CL with. AVB would need too much money bacause he has his own phylosophy and needs to find players that fit into it, which is why he dropped some of chelseas best players. If he got the job i really wouldnt be happy.

Rush Job » Mon May 21, 2012 2:19 am wrote:i think the safest option is rafa. If they want CL football he`ll provide it. He` proved he can do it, with a half decent budget plus players sells, which was more than he managed on last time i think he could well bring in a few players that would make us CL league again. He proved in his past jobs he likes a big man, up top, atleast as an option so it think he`d like to work with carrol.
I dont personaly think all our fooball under rafa was dier to watch, he`s a tatactition so sometimes your going to get a different aproach, but for the most part we were winning, the football we payed in 09 was great to watch, 5-0  against real followed up by a 4-1 agaist united, we were rolling over  teams, won are last 8 or 9 games, so unlucky not to win,  but then what little money there was dried up and we affectively had to sell to buy. When you conider some of the players we missed out on bacause of the difference of 2 mil or the like, which would have been structured payment anyway, like daniel alves, could have had him for 12mil, i think we ended up spening the money on dirk, the list is endless
I`d take him over AVB in a fkin heart beat, the guy spent a lot of money and he had chelsea all over the  place, they were lost under him, he`s proven nothing, just his name being mentioned is offensive....... ruined chelsea but dont worry you`ll get the liverpool job, their second tier 
unless a current manager is in the running who has the kind of experience and success we need, id go rafa all day long....... Martines thats another one, he`s fkin 3rd tier.
bring back rafa and back him, we`ve got a better squad now imo than the one he inherited that he won the CL with. AVB would need too much money bacause he has his own phylosophy and needs to find players that fit into it, which is why he dropped some of chelseas best players. If he got the job i really wouldnt be happy.

Im siding to agree with this. All the dross thats being nominated for candidacy is depressing. The decent ones are turning us down. Klopp would have been my choice. German efficiency anbd discipline would have been welcomed imo.

But its just garbage the rest.

They should have stuck with kenny for another year, but they panicked and have phucked up imo.

Give it back to rafa...end this shih

i`m 100% sure benitez would do better than anyone else, he even knows most of the senior players in our squad because he brought them here (reina, johnson, skrtel, agger, lucas, kuyt etc)
dont forget the managers who have never managed in england before will need time to settle themselves, rafa himself did and he`d just won 2 spanish titles and the uefa cup.
the likes of guardiola and klopp even if they did come here (and they wont) wouldnt be producing miracles in the league in their first season.

Yes by all means bring Rafa back...As if we haven't sufferd enough...The man which prefers tactics and working horses over creativity and total football ,the guy which gambled our season away on an injured player ,the man which thrives only at cup games...Didn't think LFC fans were sooooo conservative...We need a total makeover ,a manager which has an eye for upcoming talent a manager which prefers attacking and creative football ,Rafa is the exact opposite.

only me » Mon May 21, 2012 4:42 pm wrote:Yes by all means bring Rafa back...As if we haven't sufferd enough...The man which prefers tactics and working horses over creativity and total football ,the guy which gambled our season away on an injured player ,the man which thrives only at cup games...Didn't think LFC fans were sooooo conservative...We need a total makeover ,a manager which has an eye for upcoming talent a manager which prefers attacking and creative football ,Rafa is the exact opposite.

oh yeah, negative rafa!
that season we finished second we scored more goals than any other team in the league including united who had ronaldo, tevez and rooney up front.
he`s also amassed our 2 best ever points totals in the prem era (86 and 82 points), the year houllier finished 2nd we amassed 80 points.
this from a manager who apparently didnt `care` about the league.
how can you use the word `suffered`? the lowest we ever finished under rafa was 6th, that incidently was our best finish in recent years, and as you well know there were valid reasons why the team tailed off at the end of his reign like the small matter of the club going to the f**king wall!
incase you`ve forgotten benitez took us to 2 champions league finals in 3 years and another semi final, he took us to the league cup final, the f.a cup final and the world club championship final in 6 years. his final season was the only one where we failed to qualify for the CL.
and those workhorses you mention? i seem to remember players like alonso, mascherano, lucas, gerrard, torres, agger, reina, carragher and arbeloa were the mainstays of his side, hardly a load of workhorses.
i know one thing the side we have now would get battered by them

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 21, 2012 5:10 pm wrote:

only me » Mon May 21, 2012 4:42 pm wrote:Yes by all means bring Rafa back...As if we haven't sufferd enough...The man which prefers tactics and working horses over creativity and total football ,the guy which gambled our season away on an injured player ,the man which thrives only at cup games...Didn't think LFC fans were sooooo conservative...We need a total makeover ,a manager which has an eye for upcoming talent a manager which prefers attacking and creative football ,Rafa is the exact opposite.

oh yeah, negative rafa!
that season we finished second we scored more goals than any other team in the league including united who had ronaldo, tevez and rooney up front.
he`s also amassed our 2 best ever points totals in the prem era (86 and 82 points), the year houllier finished 2nd we amassed 80 points.
this from a manager who apparently didnt `care` about the league.
how can you use the word `suffered`? the lowest we ever finished under rafa was 6th, that incidently was our best finish in recent years, and as you well know there were valid reasons why the team tailed off at the end of his reign like the small matter of the club going to the f**king wall!
incase you`ve forgotten benitez took us to 2 champions league finals in 3 years and another semi final, he took us to the league cup final, the f.a cup final and the world club championship final in 6 years. his final season was the only one where we failed to qualify for the CL.
and those workhorses you mention? i seem to remember players like alonso, mascherano, lucas, gerrard, torres, agger, reina, carragher and arbeloa were the mainstays of his side, hardly a load of workhorses.
i know one thing the side we have now would get battered by them

You have a very short memory, okay we had a great season when we finished second ( we should really have won the league) other than that it was pretty negative stuff, we were not a great team to watch

Boocity » Mon May 21, 2012 5:17 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 21, 2012 5:10 pm wrote:

only me » Mon May 21, 2012 4:42 pm wrote:Yes by all means bring Rafa back...As if we haven't sufferd enough...The man which prefers tactics and working horses over creativity and total football ,the guy which gambled our season away on an injured player ,the man which thrives only at cup games...Didn't think LFC fans were sooooo conservative...We need a total makeover ,a manager which has an eye for upcoming talent a manager which prefers attacking and creative football ,Rafa is the exact opposite.

oh yeah, negative rafa!
that season we finished second we scored more goals than any other team in the league including united who had ronaldo, tevez and rooney up front.
he`s also amassed our 2 best ever points totals in the prem era (86 and 82 points), the year houllier finished 2nd we amassed 80 points.
this from a manager who apparently didnt `care` about the league.
how can you use the word `suffered`? the lowest we ever finished under rafa was 6th, that incidently was our best finish in recent years, and as you well know there were valid reasons why the team tailed off at the end of his reign like the small matter of the club going to the f**king wall!
incase you`ve forgotten benitez took us to 2 champions league finals in 3 years and another semi final, he took us to the league cup final, the f.a cup final and the world club championship final in 6 years. his final season was the only one where we failed to qualify for the CL.
and those workhorses you mention? i seem to remember players like alonso, mascherano, lucas, gerrard, torres, agger, reina, carragher and arbeloa were the mainstays of his side, hardly a load of workhorses.
i know one thing the side we have now would get battered by them

You have a very short memory, okay we had a great season when we finished second ( we should really have won the league) other than that it was pretty negative stuff, we were not a great team to watch

The irony of this statement being that there are some here who think we're still big enough to attract the top tier managers...

De Boer has ruled himself out anyway.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 21, 2012 5:10 pm wrote:

only me » Mon May 21, 2012 4:42 pm wrote:Yes by all means bring Rafa back...As if we haven't sufferd enough...The man which prefers tactics and working horses over creativity and total football ,the guy which gambled our season away on an injured player ,the man which thrives only at cup games...Didn't think LFC fans were sooooo conservative...We need a total makeover ,a manager which has an eye for upcoming talent a manager which prefers attacking and creative football ,Rafa is the exact opposite.

oh yeah, negative rafa!
that season we finished second we scored more goals than any other team in the league including united who had ronaldo, tevez and rooney up front.
he`s also amassed our 2 best ever points totals in the prem era (86 and 82 points), the year houllier finished 2nd we amassed 80 points.
this from a manager who apparently didnt `care` about the league.
how can you use the word `suffered`? the lowest we ever finished under rafa was 6th, that incidently was our best finish in recent years, and as you well know there were valid reasons why the team tailed off at the end of his reign like the small matter of the club going to the f**king wall!
incase you`ve forgotten benitez took us to 2 champions league finals in 3 years and another semi final, he took us to the league cup final, the f.a cup final and the world club championship final in 6 years. his final season was the only one where we failed to qualify for the CL.
and those workhorses you mention? i seem to remember players like alonso, mascherano, lucas, gerrard, torres, agger, reina, carragher and arbeloa were the mainstays of his side, hardly a load of workhorses.
i know one thing the side we have now would get battered by them

Well i still remember what i've seen countless times under Rafa ,Boring tactical football ,a manager which thinks he was bigger then the game and that we can win without talented players just because he is on the sidelines and his worst decision was signing an injured player on the expense of the club ,arrogent and rackless decision. I want to see something else ,Rafa isn't the future his is the past. Let's move on.

Rafa 2004-2010
2004-05 Champions league winners. League cup finalists
2005-06 FA cup winners
2006-07 Champions league finalists
2007-08 Champions league semis
2008-09 Premiership runners up
2009-10 Uefa cup semis
Also beat juventus. Chelsea. Ac Milan. Barcelona. Inter Milan. Real Madrid.in Europe
Who would take that now? I deffo would. I REST MY CASE J W HENRY

AVB 5/2 Favourite at Paddy power.
Martinez 10/3
Rijkarrd 5/1
Rafa 6/1

as of 18:33

Boocity » Mon May 21, 2012 5:17 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 21, 2012 5:10 pm wrote:

only me » Mon May 21, 2012 4:42 pm wrote:Yes by all means bring Rafa back...As if we haven't sufferd enough...The man which prefers tactics and working horses over creativity and total football ,the guy which gambled our season away on an injured player ,the man which thrives only at cup games...Didn't think LFC fans were sooooo conservative...We need a total makeover ,a manager which has an eye for upcoming talent a manager which prefers attacking and creative football ,Rafa is the exact opposite.

oh yeah, negative rafa!
that season we finished second we scored more goals than any other team in the league including united who had ronaldo, tevez and rooney up front.
he`s also amassed our 2 best ever points totals in the prem era (86 and 82 points), the year houllier finished 2nd we amassed 80 points.
this from a manager who apparently didnt `care` about the league.
how can you use the word `suffered`? the lowest we ever finished under rafa was 6th, that incidently was our best finish in recent years, and as you well know there were valid reasons why the team tailed off at the end of his reign like the small matter of the club going to the f**king wall!
incase you`ve forgotten benitez took us to 2 champions league finals in 3 years and another semi final, he took us to the league cup final, the f.a cup final and the world club championship final in 6 years. his final season was the only one where we failed to qualify for the CL.
and those workhorses you mention? i seem to remember players like alonso, mascherano, lucas, gerrard, torres, agger, reina, carragher and arbeloa were the mainstays of his side, hardly a load of workhorses.
i know one thing the side we have now would get battered by them

You have a very short memory, okay we had a great season when we finished second ( we should really have won the league) other than that it was pretty negative stuff, we were not a great team to watch

thats another one of the myths put around, anyone who watched us week in week out under houllier would tell you that watching benitez`s team was miles better, and quite frankly players like xabi alonso and fernando torres were a joy to watch.
people are judging benitez by his last 18 months in the job where the club had to make a £30m profit every year to pay off the interests on the loans.

well spurs have not called happy in for talks over his contract so theres still a chance he might be out of a job.......so if we keep getting turned down we could always ask him lol

well spurs have not called happy in for talks over his contract so theres still a chance he might be out of a job.......so if we keep getting turned down we could always ask him lol