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by **worcester_red** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:46 am

kartiek wrote:
Greavesie wrote:now, I haven't watched the handshake thing but I was told from a City fan that Evra pulled Suarez' arm towards him when Suarez went to walk away, the City fan actually said Evra fuelled it and if Suarez didn't want to shake hands then he didn't have to. I thought that was an interesting take and one that spares Suarez from the witch hunt. I still haven't watched it but I've received some images that show Suarez reaching out to shake hands:

Sorry about the URL, it'll have to go into your browser:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg339....=medium

and now these:

now call me mental, but are those images lying to me? Cheers to KK for these

I know no matter how many people see these its not gonna change much but surely the media just have it in for this guy.

regardless of what I wrote above, I do agree that in this whole handshake, Evra seemed to have almost tried to have hidden his hand when Suarez came over. I'm sure Suarez didn't have a plan to not shake hands with Evra but again in the heat of the moment when he felt that Evra was hiding his hand, he thought to himself, " it, why should I be the one trying to shake this 's hand"

irrelevant, if this is the case, which it wasn't, then Suarez should have made a big deal of grabbing Evra's hand but like a child he didn't.
The only way for the club to get back to normal is to sack Daglish and Suarez, otherwise permanent damage will be done.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:40 am

worcester_red wrote:The only way for the club to get back to normal is to sack Daglish and Suarez, otherwise permanent damage will be done.

what complete rubbish. easily the dumbest post i've ever seen on this forum :no

by **RedSi35** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:08 am

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
worcester_red wrote:The only way for the club to get back to normal is to sack Daglish and Suarez, otherwise permanent damage will be done.

what complete rubbish. easily the dumbest post i've ever seen on this forum

What nonsense, sack the manager and player over a handshake?

Cone on get real. Yes we should have handled the race issue better, but suarez is a grown man and has every right to make his own decision.

We dont have to play Utd any more, the issue will now go away. No :censored:

ragtop paper will be interested if he shakes hands with players from any other club now.

We have learnt a lesson which is what life is all about.

Move on

by **metalhead** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:47 am

Lyndsey Dalglish (daughter of KD) is getting death threats on her twitter timeline

Talk about reputation

by **Octsky** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:08 am

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
worcester_red wrote:The only way for the club to get back to normal is to sack Daglish and Suarez, otherwise permanent damage will be done.

you, Sir, for spurting that nonsense should be banned from
this forum for life.
i hope you are joking.

by **RedSi35** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:08 am

Just watching sky sports news now.

Holy :censored:

, is it actually the MUTV channel?

?

Bias +100000000

by **parchpea** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:22 am

Liverpool FC and its greatest ambassodor Dalglish have gambled everything on Suarez including personal and global reputation.

Its one hell of a punt to stand in the corner of a lad that came to the club with a bad boy rep, and has now been found gulity of racist comments on our watch by the governing body of the league we compete in.

We can continue this crusade, but its a battle we have all but lost along with a good portion of the respect the club has built up over decades.

by **destro** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:33 am

A grown man makes a decision not to shake the hand of a man that over exaggerated an incident ( I am talking by about the inconsistency in his story ). And now it has become the worst thing ever to happen in football according to the media,Ferguson, Lou McCari, Gordon Taylor,Clark Carlisle all blowing it up further. They now want the two players to meet up in front of the worlds media and shake hands ? What the :censored:

for, this is not some sort of election campaign canvassing for votes, what next Suarez holding a black baby while walking round Manchester meeting people. The whole thing is becoming ridiculous. Did Evra move his hand, did Suarez go out there determined to make Kenny look stupid after the statement released saying they would shake hands, who knows. Zidanne said he would never speak to or forgive Matterazzi for what he said about his sister that caused the infamous head but moment, was that on Suarez mind once he came face to face with Evra ( even though he said at the time he did not hear Evra make a comment about his sister, he still found out later that a comment was made ). In some peoples opinion Suarez was hard done by over the whole Evra thing, maybe even in his eyes he felt the same way about it, maybe he wanted more than statements and t-shirts but was persuaded that the F.A are bent and nothing would come of an appeal.Terry and Bridge is another example of a big deal being made over a handshake, if two people have developed a hatred for each other then I for one do not believe it is right to make them shake hands just for the media. Kenny should have said we have spoken to Suarez regarding the hand shake and we will leave it up to the player to decide on what he wants to do. I find it hard to take that Suarez was told he must shake hands and then refuse to do so, which makes the statement from Kenny more confusing. As for Ferguson he has had his own share of players who have stained the name of his own club in the past and yet chose not to show them the door, people in glass houses and all that. For the first time ever I actually found myself agreeing with Gary Neville, that just shows me how far emotions have been stretched and how far opinions are torn on this whole saga.

by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:37 am

worcester_red wrote:
kartiek wrote:
Greavesie wrote:now, I haven't watched the handshake thing but I was told from a City fan that Evra pulled Suarez' arm towards him when Suarez went to walk away, the City fan actually said Evra fuelled it and if Suarez didn't want to shake hands then he didn't have to. I thought that was an interesting take and one that spares Suarez from the witch hunt. I still haven't watched it but I've received some images that show Suarez reaching out to shake hands:

Sorry about the URL, it'll have to go into your browser:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg339....=medium

and now these:

now call me mental, but are those images lying to me? Cheers to KK for these

I know no matter how many people see these its not gonna change much but surely the media just have it in for this guy.

regardless of what I wrote above, I do agree that in this whole handshake, Evra seemed to have almost tried to have hidden his hand when Suarez came over. I'm sure Suarez didn't have a plan to not shake hands with Evra but again in the heat of the moment when he felt that Evra was hiding his hand, he thought to himself, " it, why should I be the one trying to shake this 's hand"

irrelevant, if this is the case, which it wasn't, then Suarez should have made a big deal of grabbing Evra's hand but like a child he didn't.
The only way for the club to get back to normal is to sack Daglish and Suarez, otherwise permanent damage will be done.

Well we have you asking for both manager and player to be sacked , Kerry going on about him being banned , Kewell crucifying him in every post, we dot need the media or anyone to ruin our club and players - it seems some of its own fans are giving it a good go as well.

I can't believe some of the reaction - its embaressing behind belief .

It's a handshake ! And it has been blown way out of proportion by the media ( with Sky the ring leaders ) and our own "fans" are following it like sheep.

Where is the condemning of Ferdinand refusing to shake hands ?

What about Evra chasing down Suarez at half time and trying to burst into the Liverpool dressing room ?

Where is the paragraphs condemning Evra for his celebrations in the face of Suarez

Where is the recognition for Suarez to not react to those celebrations ?

As for Ferguson !! He is a disgrace in his own lifetime !

How dare he say Suarez should be kicked out of English football !! Where is the FA charge for that ! I wonder what his reaction would be if people said that about Cantona after he assaulted a fan !!

The imbalance of the whole situation is frankly disgusting and the media and mainly Sky are loving it

by **metalhead** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:53 am

Well Benny, if you read through the Luis Suarez thread, we have been saying this all a long, it reeks of double standard from the media

by **laza** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:55 am

This club and its reputation survived the horror that was Heysel, I think we will get past this somewhat sordid but definately overblown incident

by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:58 am

metalhead wrote:Well Benny, if you read through the Luis Suarez thread, we have been saying this all a long, it reeks of double standard from the media

I know mate - the worst thing is the mindless sheep following it along ( from our own supposed "fans" )

by **aCe'** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:03 am

Im sick of this. Suarez is childish, deserved his ban, should have shook hands with Evra, and shouldnt have booted the ball the way he did at half time. That said, the reaction to the whole thing is way overboard. The media were always going to pick up on it and it was always going to cause some more negative publicity in our direction. The fans however should know better imo. Calling for Suarez to be suspended further or for him and Kenny to be sacked from the club over this are just crazy. Like many have pointed out the whole handshake thing isnt a big deal in football. Sure people will talk about it for a few days but thats as far as it should go imo. Ferdinand did the same for Suarez and no one seems to give that a mention. Evra's actions at the end of the game and reportedly during half time are far worse than what Suarez did on the night and even then I dont think anything should be made of them.

This whole PR thing is something I thought we should have worked on from the day the Suarez racism thing came to light. The players AND Kenny dont seem to know what to say or how to act when asked the hard questions and thats always going to put us under unneeded pressure.

As far as our global fan base goes, win a trophy and get in the top4 and everything is back to where it was. I know many neutral fans probably hate Suarez and believe he is indeed a racist but its a bit too late to do anything about that now. We could have handled it better (and I hope if something like this comes up again we do) but lets not go overboard with this.

by **alxy** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:08 am

Just thought that Suarez should have handled it better. Regardless of how he feels or how the actual situation is, he should have shook Evra's hand. Now all the attention is on this nonsense again, which probably might affect the players some. And Kenny has to go out and defend Suarez again. All this unnecessary distractions when we should be focusing on our cups and getting back into a winning groove in the league

by **supersub** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:08 am

worcester_red wrote:The only way for the club to get back to normal is to sack Daglish and Suarez, otherwise permanent damage will be done.

Always thought you were a di.ckhead WUM :sleep

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