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Postby devaney » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:08 pm

bavlondon wrote:He will stay, because the 2 teams that he would go to (Barca and Chelsea) will not bidding for him. Barca can't afford him outright and Ancelotti has already said he won't be pursuing him. Bad world cup or not Torres would cost at least 70Mil, it's an eye watering amount and since he has 4 years on his contract the advantage is with us. He doesn't really have any option but to stay unless he wants to sell out to City.

I don't know what everyone is getting worked up about. He said before the final he would talk about his future once he is back from his holidays.

With his injury record which is becoming a very serious concern who is going to pay £70m? During both last season and the World Cup he was very average and nothing like the player of the title chasing season. He takes several games to regain his form after long term injury and then he gets injured again! At his best he is absolutely brilliant and easily one of if not the best in the world. His attitude at time last season similar to several other players in the team left a lot to be desired. He owes Liverpool for standing by him than simply taking a lump of money and saying thank you and goodbye !
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Postby tubby » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:14 pm

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bavlondon wrote:He will stay, because the 2 teams that he would go to (Barca and Chelsea) will not bidding for him. Barca can't afford him outright and Ancelotti has already said he won't be pursuing him. Bad world cup or not Torres would cost at least 70Mil, it's an eye watering amount and since he has 4 years on his contract the advantage is with us. He doesn't really have any option but to stay unless he wants to sell out to City.

I don't know what everyone is getting worked up about. He said before the final he would talk about his future once he is back from his holidays.

With his injury record which is becoming a very serious concern who is going to pay £70m? During both last season and the World Cup he was very average and nothing like the player of the title chasing season. He takes several games to regain his form after long term injury and then he gets injured again! At his best he is absolutely brilliant and easily one of if not the best in the world. His attitude at time last season similar to several other players in the team left a lot to be desired. He owes Liverpool for standing by him than simply taking a lump of money and saying thank you and goodbye !

Even last season, his most injury plagued yet he managed to score a goal every 90 odd mins. No other player matched that and his goal scoring ratio is better than even Henry and Drogba right now.

Injured or not he is still the best player in his position. The problem because we were playing with a lone striker system and didn't have any decent backup we were always reliant on him coming back and credit to him he pretty much always delivered.

But we need to be looking to bring in someone to partner him. That way if and when he does get injured at least we can play his backup and not have to be sweating it wondering when he will be back in training.
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Postby devaney » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:33 pm

bavlondon wrote:
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bavlondon wrote:He will stay, because the 2 teams that he would go to (Barca and Chelsea) will not bidding for him. Barca can't afford him outright and Ancelotti has already said he won't be pursuing him. Bad world cup or not Torres would cost at least 70Mil, it's an eye watering amount and since he has 4 years on his contract the advantage is with us. He doesn't really have any option but to stay unless he wants to sell out to City.

I don't know what everyone is getting worked up about. He said before the final he would talk about his future once he is back from his holidays.

With his injury record which is becoming a very serious concern who is going to pay £70m? During both last season and the World Cup he was very average and nothing like the player of the title chasing season. He takes several games to regain his form after long term injury and then he gets injured again! At his best he is absolutely brilliant and easily one of if not the best in the world. His attitude at time last season similar to several other players in the team left a lot to be desired. He owes Liverpool for standing by him than simply taking a lump of money and saying thank you and goodbye !

Even last season, his most injury plagued yet he managed to score a goal every 90 odd mins. No other player matched that and his goal scoring ratio is better than even Henry and Drogba right now.

Injured or not he is still the best player in his position. The problem because we were playing with a lone striker system and didn't have any decent backup we were always reliant on him coming back and credit to him he pretty much always delivered.

But we need to be looking to bring in someone to partner him. That way if and when he does get injured at least we can play his backup and not have to be sweating it wondering when he will be back in training.

His goals per game average in the Premiership is fantastic. The problems the number of games he plays. For the last two seasons he only started in 20 Premiership matches. Compare that record to La Liga when he regularly started in more than 35 games. Is it our training methods or is his body going the same way as Owen's? I really hope he stays and tries out the new regime and gets back to his best.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:56 pm

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bavlondon wrote:Heres a question for you lot. Weve seen some great play by Torres so far whilst hes till adjuststing. Do you think he can be as good as Henry? He sure seems to have settled better in his first season than Henry did when he came here

Sorry, but Henry's in a class of his own.  Torres is a great striker and he's got great skills, but Henry was a much better all around player.  If Torres could score a goal against Arsenal, like Henry scored against us in 03/04, then I may change my mind.
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Postby roberto green » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:27 am

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Dundalk wrote:I heard Fernando had beef with Roy and after that they washed in down with a few pints..............................they were last seen heading to X in the city    :buttrock

:laugh: Shut it you, im talking about this,
The papers have been gutted theve had nothing negative to write about us for a week now , but watch there gonna be going into overdrive with this there gonna be made up, What Does Roy mean Torres has  issues with the club, Thats the questions there gonna be asking all fecking week now,

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"Unfortunately, I cannot do much more. His beef is with the club and not me,"

'No, but Christian Purslow (managing director) might be able to if you got hold of him. 'I haven't spoken to him for the last two days; he's been travelling back from Spain where he's been on holiday. 'His holiday has also been taken up a lot of time by discussions with Fernando and his people, so I'm afraid the only person who can give you the type of details you require is Christian. It would be wrong of me to say too much.'

Totally agree nan but wait to mid week when Torres says he is staying what the :censored: will the papers say then "Mash is leaving" or something like that.

I don't think Cole would of signed if he knew Torres was going to leave and I don't think Stevie would of come out either(no hes not gay)

Don't worry my friends all is well it's just a matter of what other attacking players Roy is going to sign
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Postby dundreamin » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:37 am

like i say about anx LFC player,regardless who he is.if you dont want to play for the club FOOK OFFdont care wio you are,or think you are
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Postby aCe' » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:23 am

Manchester City willing to break transfer record for Fernando Torres

Roberto Mancini has confirmed Manchester City are willing to underwrite a British record transfer for Fernando Torres should the Spaniard decide to leave Liverpool.

Torres's future at Anfield remains shrouded in uncertainty with Christian Purslow, the club's managing director, holding extensive talks with the 26-year-old striker and the manager, Roy Hodgson, but conceding he can do no more to convince the striker to stay.

Chelsea and Barcelona have been linked with the former Atlético Madrid captain but may struggle to meet Liverpool's £70m valuation.

City's hopes of signing Torres were believed to have ended when they failed to qualify for the Champions League last season but Mancini, who is also interested in Mario Balotelli of Internazionale and Wolfsburg's Edin Dzeko, insists the prospect of Torres making a sensational switch from Anfield to Eastlands is not over and is willing to better the £32.5m record fee City spent to sign Robinho from Real Madrid.

The City manager, who has taken his summer spending to £78m with the £18.9m arrival of Aleksandar Kolarov from Lazio, said: "Torres is one of the best strikers in Europe and is already playing in the Premier League for three years and knows it very well. But it depends on his situation – his price and whether he wants to come.

"There are two or three strikers that we could go for, but it is the same situation as it is with James Milner. First there is the price and then it depends if the players want to change team. Until today, Liverpool haven't bought many players."


City officials have indicated the club has more chance of signing Balotelli and Dzeko than Torres, with the lack of Champions League football on offer still a determining factor despite their ability to fund a deal and to offer players £200,000-a-week.

The Spanish striker has stressed that money will not be the over-riding motivation as he considers his future at Liverpool this summer but, nevertheless, confirmation of City's interest will further unsettle Anfield officials as they attempt to persuade their prized asset to stay.

Torres is settled in Liverpool but disillusioned with the club's failure to secure new investment having been told a takeover was imminent when he signed a new four-year contract worth £110,000-a-week last August. His insistence that Liverpool require "four or five" top‑class signings to compete for honours next season is unlikely to materialise and Purslow has spent several days attempting to pacify the striker.

Hodgson confirmed at the weekend: "I made it clear from my point of view that I'm really looking forward to working with him and I believe he's a key, key figure at the club. I obviously want him to be a part of the team we're trying to build here and I can only hope he'll buy into what the club is offering him. I don't think there are any worries with him in terms of me personally or what we're doing. I think the concerns go back once again to the time before I came to the club."
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Postby maguskwt » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:47 am

I can't believe some on here are willing to cash-in on Torres, our most valuable asset in terms of football or commercial. Even at a low price of 40-45 millions? What kind of club are we if we do that? I agree fully with Bav, Torres has signed a contract extension and we hold the cards in his transfer. Having beef with the club or not he should at least give Roy a chance. I don't honestly believe Torres is a person who's gonna sulk and intentionally not perform if Roy tells him 'Look, give us at least one season and re-assess the situation. You are a key player in our team but if you wanna leave we will consider if the price is right.' There are no bidders bidding at his value. They are all looking to get Torres on a 'cheap'. Man City willing to break their transfer record means feck all. It probably means bidding 40 million or so since their previous record was 32.5million.

Feck them we are not a selling club. Look at how we stood firm with Alonso and we got 30 million for him. We shouldn't be letting our best players go on a cheap anymore. If they want him, and if he's willing to leave, fork out what he's worth. Otherwise, he is our player. Now that Gerrard's made the decision to stay, I'm sure he's gonna have a word with Torres. We gotta stand firm otherwise we will alwasy be 'robbed'. Just think about it, we get 45 million pounds, which striker are we gonna get that will come half as close as Torres now? All world class strikers are now tied down at big clubs. The most we can hope for is Huntelaar who is decent but not Torres' level. I don't know about you guys but I for one don't wanna go back to the kind of period where we have the likes of Cisse and Baros playing for us up front. How hopeless will that kinda team be?

P.S. If Man City wants him, and he wants to go there, we cannot definitely let one of our CL position rivals strengthen themselves. Give us Adebayor/Tevez + 45 million and we will consider. Or give us both Adebayour and Tevez and 30 million and we will consider. Torres' value won't drop even if we keep him for 1 more season FFS. Time to play hardball not bend over backwards for our rivals...
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Postby Rush Job » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:58 am

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maguskwt wrote:I still think your hypothesis of the players demanding that the previous manager leave is absolutely bollox...

only time will tell on that one mate, when new books come out.

As if a written account of happenings is any more concrete proof than hot air :no

The bible is a book, are you saying all events within are factual.......................!?!?!?!?  :upside: (EDIT : by virtue of it being in a book, not because you were talking about the bible)

so unless it on film you will say that Torres and Steve and jamie are bullshitting if theu say it in their books ? what if Rafa also says it in his book that is meant to be coming out at the end of the year? (going by what his agent hinted at when asked what Rafa was going to be doing during the world cup)

My sources told me it is all :censored:.

Thats not what your sources told me. ???
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Postby Rush Job » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:57 am

bavlondon wrote:If Torres wants to go so be it. But any club that wants him is going to have to fork out 60mil at the very least. Barca can't afford him unless they throw in a few players and Chelsea have already said they won't be going for him so it only really leaves City or maybe Inter. Even in Inters case they could not afford him outright.

Thats the stupid thing about the price of these superstars, you end up with only two teams being able to afford them.
I think this is Torres and maybe also us putting himself in the shop window.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:30 am

If Torres wants to go, let him.  I'm sure we can find a decent striker out there, who would love to wear the Liverpool shirt.
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:35 am

ruskiy playmaker wrote:If Torres wants to go, let him.  I'm sure we can find a decent striker out there, who would love to wear the Liverpool shirt.

You are right mate ... Roy wants him to stay, the fans wants him to stay and the whole club wants him to stay .... all is UP TO HIM NOW .... the ball is in his court ...
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:42 am

maguskwt wrote:Just think about it, we get 45 million pounds, which striker are we gonna get that will come half as close as Torres now?

There are talented strikers out there who could replace him. They may not be as good as him, but they'd do the business and they wont be injured for half a season.

Dzeko
Luis Suarez
Benzema
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:44 am

ruskiy playmaker wrote:
maguskwt wrote:Just think about it, we get 45 million pounds, which striker are we gonna get that will come half as close as Torres now?

There are talented strikers out there who could replace him. They may not be as good as him, but they'd do the business and they wont be injured for half a season.

Dzeko
Luis Suarez
Benzema
Zlatan
Pazzini
Balloteli

Man City willing to buy 70m for him ...
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:50 am

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
ruskiy playmaker wrote:
maguskwt wrote:Just think about it, we get 45 million pounds, which striker are we gonna get that will come half as close as Torres now?

There are talented strikers out there who could replace him. They may not be as good as him, but they'd do the business and they wont be injured for half a season.

Dzeko
Luis Suarez
Benzema
Zlatan
Pazzini
Balloteli

Man City willing to buy 70m for him ...

Don't think he'd go there, unless they offered him like 200,000 pounds per week.
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