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by **Paul C** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:25 am

I'm not singling anyone out for last night as the team didn't play well and it wasn't down to individuals, anyway my question is about Kewell, how long do we give the guy? I personally think that we should give him until the end of the season and if he doesn't improve then he should move on as he hasn't produced the goods and very rarely has had a good game.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:31 am

I think raffa likes him though he said he seen him once at old twatford when he played for leeds and hes never seen a better winger

Maybe its time for raffa to wake up and smell the coffee because hes never been sensational for us ok he wasnt bad the beginning of last season but hes been very poor ever since

I think if chelsea will sell Duff we need him in january

by **anfieldadorer** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:06 am

I still have a firm believe that Kewell is naturally a reliable player. How can you play all-out when during the games you are disturbed by a possible worsening injury. It disturbes you physically and mentally for +/- 90 minutes.

by **maximus** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:41 am

anfieldadorer wrote:I still have a firm believe that Kewell is naturally a reliable player. How can you play all-out when during the games you are disturbed by a possible worsening injury. It disturbes you physically and mentally for +/- 90 minutes.

Sorry Annie,

That is a pathetic excuse, if that is the case he may as well retire with immediate effect!!

What about being disturbed by the fans that are getting fed up with cr@p performances week in week out :angry:

jeez................ffs :angry:

by **Starbridge42** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:26 pm

I'm with anfieladorer. He's been carying an injury since mid last season, he was unproffesional when he decided to go on holiday insteado f get something done about it during the off season but Rafa and Farina need to give him time to recover. ANd time to recover is not three or four days between matches, its possibly several weeks. Since everyone on this board seems to hate him so much you should all leap think this idea is brilliant yes? If not then you obviously believe he should be in the first team... so why are you complaining?

by **gabbyh** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:46 pm

Kewell really wanted to play for Liverpool at a time when his form was so good, other, more successful clubs, wanted him too.
I appreciate him as a player. He and the manager need to get his priorities straight. He may want to play out of fear of losing his place, or out of some misguided sense of loyalty to the club. I don't know, I am speculating! This is my way, I try to find reasons rather than blame. Oh God, I'm deffo becoming Houllier!!
Kewell is not a ****** player. You do not become ****** overnight. Injuries do not help. But, he is a professional football player and that , to my mind, means that when you are payed amazing wages per week, you look after your fitness levels and hone your skills. Micheal Owen and David Beckham are good footballing examples of professionalism.

by **Paul C** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:53 pm

I'm don't care what excuses their are, at the end of the day if someone has been playing for LFC for 2 seasons and not been producing the good then questions have to be asked, if he is injured then he shouldn't play, if Beni feels that we don't have the relevant cover for Kewell then he should buy someone else but personally I think Warnock should get the nod and let Kewell recover.

by **gabbyh** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:56 pm

I hope that Warnock does get a chance to play and that Kewell gets a chance to recover his fitness. You are right Paul.
I think the problem Liverpool lack at the moment is equilibrium within the squad. If an experienced player is injured, we do not have the depth nor breadth of experience in reserve to cope. We end up putting inexperienced players into a situation where they end up either exceeding expectations or have a nightmare, both experinces can be detrimental to a players confidence. ie creat a lack of confidence, or create a situation where the player starts to believe his own publicity.
Benitez must be allowed time to assess the squad he has inherited, the squad he wants, and a period of time to get the funds for this squad. I believe Benitez is a better tactician than Houllier, because he wants tactically minded players, not players who just follow his tactics.

by **JBG** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:06 pm

Kewell has had a dozen decent games in 3 years.

Frank Farina, his national coach, says Kewell's ankle injury has taken 30% out of Kewell, and that he's lucky still to be playing football.

Its also a mental issue as I haven't seen Kewell playing with the carefree abandon of 3 or 4 years ago, when he would try out the absolute outrageous.

I hate being harsh on our players, but Kewell needs to sort himself out in the next 2 or 3 months.

by **gabbyh** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:17 pm

Oooh a bit of female joy at having a ball!!!! No, I deffo do not have p**** envy!!

by **whylongball?** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:54 pm

if Kewell is carrying the ankle injury then no matter how good/experienced he is he won't be as effective as Warnock. And given the current lack of good wingers(due to injury or form) it's IMO better to play with 4-4-2 formation for attacking sake..what do u guys think?

by **A.B.** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:55 pm

Kewell is the player that annoys me the most, he puts no effort when he plays. As if he didn't care whether we win or not.

by **Ola Mr Benitez** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:58 pm

i know what you are saying.. kewell doesn't seem to give his all,but last season he scored over 10 goals from midfield.. which is ok. I think he does have issues that need sorting, and does need to work harder, but Im not convinced Warnock is ready to play in the big games yet. He looked a bit our of his depth last night. Its a difficult one for Raffa that may be made easier when Nunez is fit

by **anfieldadorer** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:43 am

maximus wrote:
anfieldadorer wrote:I still have a firm believe that Kewell is naturally a reliable player. How can you play all-out when during the games you are disturbed by a possible worsening injury. It disturbes you physically and mentally for +/- 90 minutes.

Sorry Annie,

That is a pathetic excuse, if that is the case he may as well retire with immediate effect!!

What about being disturbed by the fans that are getting fed up with cr@p performances week in week out jeez................ffs

That's okay maximus, everybody has opinion like (forgotten said who) having an as$h0le

He scored ELEVEN goals and booked himself as our MIDS TOP SCORER last season. That's a fact.

The current fact is: HE'S BEEN INJURED and playing not at someone's best during his pain is not a pathetic excuse to me.

If Farina once said that Kewell plays only 70% out of his normal performance, forget the percentage accuracy, that can't be wrong.

I used to play football for fun, once I stubbed my toes and the other time my foot got stuck into a nail. I refused to play; never being a problem.

But as a professional world player you just can't do that. His heart probably refused to play, but he wouldn't let his manager, partners and fans down and he didn't want to act against professionalism.

Then he played. He played with physical and psychological disturbance during the games. The game's over. He played rubbishly. What's so surprising about that? He knew he played far from par. But you are "forbidden" to pass any excuses; it's a professional "sin.” You have to prepare to be put into only one of “good” or “bad”.

IMO, Kewell is naturally a strong character. He won't give up before a war is over. Give him a chance to recover. It's none of his fault to get injured. You have to draw a line between him and alikes of Diao, Diouff or Biscan. It's simply about well-being, not capability.

by **A.B.** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:51 am

How much time can we give him though? If he can't do his job then there is somebody else who can. Warnock is not fit for European competion, for Premiership he is descent and sharp at times.

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