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by **Dundalk** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:38 pm

Loving the random pics Bav

Keep them coming

by **lakes10** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:50 pm

come on Denmark one more Goal.

by **tubby** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:02 pm

Dundalk wrote:Loving the random pics Bav

Keep them coming

Here you go I think you will like the first one. btw with most of these picstures if you like them then right click, copy the image location and paste into a new window and a higher res version should come up. The soccer city one is HUGE!!!

For some reason this forum seems to not allow full sized pics to be embedded.

by **tubby** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:14 pm

Looking forward to tomorrow. Italy at 15:00 then Brazil in the evening.

by **tubby** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:22 pm

Cameroon out! Unlucky for Eto'o and co.

by **tubby** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:00 pm

Anyone just hear the muppet on Five Live? :laugh:

by **SeaofRed** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:01 am

Wayne Rooney is the biggest muppet in the world at the moment, Bav.

by **Reg** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:40 am

They're too immature to handle the pressure.

by **Owzat** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:42 am

SeaofRed wrote:
rocky29 wrote:absolute capello is more professional than any of them muppets on the field last night.

Where have I said Fabio Capello isn't professional? Fabio Capello is a manager of the highest quality which is why it is disappointing to see him repeating the same failed methods as previous England managers.

Why is Frank Lampard playing for England? When was the last time he performed well for his country? I can't remember.

Why is Fabio Capello using Gerrard sparingly to plug gaps? That's what Sven and Steve did with Steven and you do not get the best out of Gerrard playing him on the left wing or partnering with a player he is not compatiable with i.e. Frank Lampard.

How on earth did Robert Green make it onto the plane in South Africa? Chris Kirkland has been a fantastic keeper for Wigan. How on earth can Capello play two slow centre backs? One is bad enough, but two? If I was Michael Dawson I would be fuming. SWP over Joe Cole? Absolute madness, Joe Cole is a cracking player and defenders hate playing against him. His movement on and off the ball is first class, he can make something out of nothing, that's what we need. Not an inept winger who can't even beat the first man.

I could go on and on, but I shant bore you anymore than I need too. Capello is making the same mistakes that Sven made four years ago, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it and if we can crawl out of the group stages next week then better decision from the manager and better performances from the players are needed, if we are to seriously challenge for the World Cup.

Agree with most of that, but will put in my own words. Names in CAPS I either don't agree with but were bound to be picked for lack of alternatives, or are players I don't think should have been picked. Obviously what I type will give you a clue as to which

GKs - James and Hart I can understand, never been a big fan of GREEN but I can see why he would be taken - he's always in the picture

FBs - over-rated as Ashley Cole is, he was always likely to go, Warnock is an ok pick. We all know Johnson's strenghs and weaknesses so who else is there? Carragher is an ok choice as cover CB and FB, but I didn't expect him to play as much as he has.

CBs - Dawson, Upson and Terry I can understand, Carragher for his versatility, but KING was a poor choice due to a history of injury and lack of the level of fitness and availability you need.

MFs - Joe Cole is one of our most creative midfielders, why he isn't playing is anyone's guess. WRIGHT-PHILLIPS is a headless chicken, no great crossing intent/ability so just runs with the ball most of the time which is a good way to lose it. LENNON looks like he could be the real deal, but doesn't deliver enough quality. That said LENNON would have to make the party for want of better alternatives, although Johnson was unlucky. (Wouldn't touch Downing with a bargepole)

Lampard is the deflection and penalty king, but can be anonymous at times. He's one of those players who scores but often that is all he really does. Gerrard is a must, not because he plays for Liverpool but because he has the drive and energy, and can play pretty much anywhere in midfield or in defence if needed! BARRY is one I've yet to be impressed with (ever), could easily have left him at home and brought another forward. I rate Carrick and think he is a viable alternative to Lampard and BARRY. Not a big fan of Milner, but I guess his ability to play either flank is rare.

CFs - Rooney is capable of great things, shame is he doesn't deliver them when it matters (enough) HESKEY is simply an abomination in an England shirt, couldn't care what his advocates say. Sure it isn't all about scoring, but frankly what does he do other than leave us without a cutting edge up front and doesn't make up for it with assists or being the playmaker.

Defoe is one who has no great record, but has he EVER had a run in the side like other strikers?!?!? I might have taken Bent over HESKEY, or Davies if we insist on trying to play dreadful long-ball football with the target man. CROUCH has a great record against the naff sides, but like HESKEY I think what he does with any great regularity is not going to help England win that many games or the World Cup - unless Slovakia, New Zealand, Paraguay, Mexico, Greece and other similarly ordinary sides queue up in England's path to the final.

I think the bottom line with squad selection is there isn't exactly a big queue of quality so picking the big names was always going to happen. I think Cappello got some of the more borderline choices wrong, and his team selection now we're here is giving players who've never proved themselves in the past way too much pitch time - King, Lennon, SWP, Carragher, Milner, Barry, Green, Heskey the names that I'd cite as being "England B". There's EIGHT names who Cappello deemed good enough to start or play a lot of the first two games (or come on in SWP's case) so is it any wonder we're looking ordinary?!?

Add to that Johnson is nothing special, Ashley Cole is over-rated and Lampard and Gerrard can often be anonymous as is Rooney this time, so two draws is about par for the course.

by **lakes10** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:18 am

heres one for you, the bbc understand that 5 England players had a go at Rooney after the game for trying to win the game on his own.
one player almost came to blows with Rooney...(it seems that might have been jamie carragher)

by **lakes10** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:38 am

got another one but not from the bbc.

during the 2nd half STEVEN GERRARD asked for Rooney to be taken off, he also asked if he could go back into the role he likes, he was told no.

If its true or not i feel the players have lost trust in Rooney.

by **tubby** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:54 am

The rags saying today that Rooney's Ego has become a problem in the England camp. It appears all the media hype has gotten to his head.

by **lakes10** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:37 am

ok...Terry " no unrest"

meeting tonight

"if we upset the manager so be it"

"some of us might get sent home after the meeting"

yer ok so no unrest in the camp pmsl.

by **laza** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:17 pm

Well rather insipid Slovaks are being put to the sword by Paraguay

Now its time for Kiwis v Italy.............oh my kingdom for an upset

by **rocky29** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:52 pm

its got feck all to do with the manager. Its all down to the players attitude. Everywhere else capello has managed hes been a sucess. More like the english players carnt handle the demands capello expects. Never mind about formations and joe cole not playing. There simply over rated prima donas who moan and groan when the going get stuff.

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