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by **dawson99** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:23 pm

200k a week?

Feck me if he wants that they can have him!!!

by **Raoul** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:29 pm

maguskwt wrote:Feckin worrying this... IMO player + cash deals are dangerous because if the player was enjoying himself at chelsea he would feel that he is pushed out against his will and might not do well at the new club...

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Fernando Torres will be the subject of a world record bid from Chelsea within days.

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Fernando Torres wants Champions League football

The total package of transfer fee and salary will make Torres a staggering £130 million investment. And Soccernet has been informed that owner Roman Abramovich is personally taking control of the project to bring the Liverpool striker to Chelsea.

Torres has been linked with Chelsea, Manchester City, Barcelona and Real Madrid for a some time but the Blues will be first to make a concrete offer.

Abramovich is ready to release the cash following a Premier League and FA Cup double this season, but he is also acutely aware he could cut an alternative deal with Liverpool in need of new players.

Chelsea are willing to offer three players in part exchange, as an option to smooth through the Torres transfer.

Abramovich is also prepared to match City's expected offer to Torres of £200,000-a-week, which is being mooted via the middle men now authorised to try and clinch the deal.

An insider told Soccernet: "Torres is the best, and Roman wants the best. He has identified Torres as the player who can help him bring the Champions League to Stamford Bridge.

"Torres can go to City for just as much money perhaps even more, but it's clear that Chelsea offer far more in terms of a crack at the Champions League whereas City aren't even in it."

Chelsea are drawing up a list of players to offer to Liverpool in part exchange for Torres that could take the overall transfer value above the £80 million world record Real Madrid paid for Cristiano Ronaldo.

The deal could be structured like this; pick any three players from a specified list plus £40 million cash up front for Torres. That offer, according to Soccernet sources, will be made well ahead of the World Cup finals in South Africa, and most likely early next week.

With the three players averaging around £15 million each, the total valuation of the Torres offer would be in excess of the Ronaldo fee.

Abramovich is personally spearheading the quest to land Torres, and his manager Carlo Ancelotti will consider which players to use as bait to tempt Liverpool: Jose Bosingwa, Nicolas Anelka, Ricardo Carvalho, Deco, Salomon Kalou and Paulo Ferreira.

Anelka is the one player the Italian coach might be reluctant to offer up and, of course, the Frenchman might not wish to return to Anfield - although he has expressed regret at failing to win a permanent move to the club after spending a loan spell on Merseyside.

Manchester City are also in a position to offer Liverpool a shopping list of swap players, as well as a cash payment in excess of Chelsea's, but the prospect of joining the Double winners and a club intent on landing the Champions League would be far more appealing.

Liverpool owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett are battling with losses of £54.9 million, a net debt of £351 million, no Champions League football and with new chairman Martin Broughton an appointee of the club's bank RBS, a £40 million cash-plus-players bid for their star asset will clearly be accepted.

Ironically, Broughton is a Chelsea season ticket holder, and any decision to sell would inevitably make him unpopular at Anfield.

Such is the ground work being prpeared at the Bridge for the Torres bid, that star striker Didier Drogba is already ready to welcome him to the club.

"Of course I would welcome Torres," Drogba said last week. "Every time a new player comes here, it makes the club bigger and gives us a lot of strength. If there is a chance for him to come here, he will be welcome, because any help is welcome.''

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news....cc=4716

Two words: Harry Harris

It is not a credible source, and until i see something definite I'm not going to waste my time worrying about it.

by **The Good Yank** » Wed May 19, 2010 7:40 pm

David Villa has signed on with Barcelona

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news....cc=5901

Why put this in the Torres thread you may be asking? Well I think this is massively related to making a big step of Torres remaining at LFC.

Barca are the only club that I could see Torres leaving us for. He hates Real Madrid, I can't see him moving to an English rival, and I think it would be highly unlikely that Barca would make a move for another extremely expensive striker having spent 34 million on Villa. However much they plan on spending on Cesc they'll probably call it a day in this transfer window on big signings after that.

I think a major bullet has been dodged.

by **tubby** » Wed May 19, 2010 7:46 pm

The Good Yank wrote:David Villa has signed on with Barcelona

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news....cc=5901

Why put this in the Torres thread you may be asking? Well I think this is massively related to making a big step of Torres remaining at LFC.

Barca are the only club that I could see Torres leaving us for. He hates Real Madrid, I can't see him moving to an English rival, and I think it would be highly unlikely that Barca would make a move for another extremely expensive striker having spent 34 million on Villa. However much they plan on spending on Cesc they'll probably call it a day in this transfer window on big signings after that.

I think a major bullet has been dodged.

Yep glad to see this went through. But they could still return for Torres yet if they managed to flog Ibrahimovich.

I wouldn't read too much into these rumors yet tbh. I really doubt he would betray us and go and play for another English club. But if we are to have a 'big summer' as Hicks promised then he better get his :censored:

cheque book out sharpish.

by **Reg** » Wed May 19, 2010 10:28 pm

Seems odd that Rafa is saying on one hand that Nando is going no where, that he's also back in Spain eating paella yet Citeh etc.. are going to pounce on Torres next week?

Surely Shirley, Torres is now with the Spanish world cup squad and is 'off limits' to both other clubs and journos whilst until after the world cup?

Its gotta be more journalistic cr@p?

by **LFC2007** » Wed May 19, 2010 10:41 pm

I don't think he's going anywhere this summer, partly because Barca appear to be out of the running (unless they sell Ibrahimovic to fund a move for Torres?

or not, definitely not) and there don't appear to be too many other realistic options, but principally because I think he has an emotional investment in the club and I reckon he's keen to see what happens next season before making a critical decision on his future. He waited for the right club to come along when he had big offers at Atletico, so I don't see why he'd jump at the chance to move to say Manchester fecking City or Chelsea until he's certain we aren't going to move forward at a fast enough rate.

by **Teshie** » Wed May 19, 2010 11:22 pm

Raoul wrote:
maguskwt wrote:Feckin worrying this... IMO player + cash deals are dangerous because if the player was enjoying himself at chelsea he would feel that he is pushed out against his will and might not do well at the new club...

*******************

Fernando Torres will be the subject of a world record bid from Chelsea within days.

GettyImages

Fernando Torres wants Champions League football

The total package of transfer fee and salary will make Torres a staggering £130 million investment. And Soccernet has been informed that owner Roman Abramovich is personally taking control of the project to bring the Liverpool striker to Chelsea.

Torres has been linked with Chelsea, Manchester City, Barcelona and Real Madrid for a some time but the Blues will be first to make a concrete offer.

Abramovich is ready to release the cash following a Premier League and FA Cup double this season, but he is also acutely aware he could cut an alternative deal with Liverpool in need of new players.

Chelsea are willing to offer three players in part exchange, as an option to smooth through the Torres transfer.

Abramovich is also prepared to match City's expected offer to Torres of £200,000-a-week, which is being mooted via the middle men now authorised to try and clinch the deal.

An insider told Soccernet: "Torres is the best, and Roman wants the best. He has identified Torres as the player who can help him bring the Champions League to Stamford Bridge.

"Torres can go to City for just as much money perhaps even more, but it's clear that Chelsea offer far more in terms of a crack at the Champions League whereas City aren't even in it."

Chelsea are drawing up a list of players to offer to Liverpool in part exchange for Torres that could take the overall transfer value above the £80 million world record Real Madrid paid for Cristiano Ronaldo.

The deal could be structured like this; pick any three players from a specified list plus £40 million cash up front for Torres. That offer, according to Soccernet sources, will be made well ahead of the World Cup finals in South Africa, and most likely early next week.

With the three players averaging around £15 million each, the total valuation of the Torres offer would be in excess of the Ronaldo fee.

Abramovich is personally spearheading the quest to land Torres, and his manager Carlo Ancelotti will consider which players to use as bait to tempt Liverpool: Jose Bosingwa, Nicolas Anelka, Ricardo Carvalho, Deco, Salomon Kalou and Paulo Ferreira.

Anelka is the one player the Italian coach might be reluctant to offer up and, of course, the Frenchman might not wish to return to Anfield - although he has expressed regret at failing to win a permanent move to the club after spending a loan spell on Merseyside.

Manchester City are also in a position to offer Liverpool a shopping list of swap players, as well as a cash payment in excess of Chelsea's, but the prospect of joining the Double winners and a club intent on landing the Champions League would be far more appealing.

Liverpool owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett are battling with losses of £54.9 million, a net debt of £351 million, no Champions League football and with new chairman Martin Broughton an appointee of the club's bank RBS, a £40 million cash-plus-players bid for their star asset will clearly be accepted.

Ironically, Broughton is a Chelsea season ticket holder, and any decision to sell would inevitably make him unpopular at Anfield.

Such is the ground work being prpeared at the Bridge for the Torres bid, that star striker Didier Drogba is already ready to welcome him to the club.

"Of course I would welcome Torres," Drogba said last week. "Every time a new player comes here, it makes the club bigger and gives us a lot of strength. If there is a chance for him to come here, he will be welcome, because any help is welcome.''

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news....cc=4716

Two words: Harry Harris

It is not a credible source, and until i see something definite I'm not going to waste my time worrying about it.

harry harris is a joke of a journalist. He is probably sleeping with someone at ESPN to keep writing the dribble that are his articles on soccernet. I would consider anything he writes as a funny fiction story

I mean cmon just look at the article "Fernando Torres wants Champions League football" ... do you see any quotes from Torres about this? ... Yes he might want champ league football but nothing stopping him getting it with the club he loves which is LFC.

every part of that article states "Sources told Soccernet" I believe this is the same website that wrote "Sources told Soccernet that Chelsea want to improve first squad with youth team"

adding to this Torres had actually come out and said that he could not see himself playing in the EPL the rest of his career because of how tough it is and how it may shorten his playing career. Going by this no WAY would he consider another EPL club if he considers leaving.

To sumarise the above:

Dear Soccernet

re: Harry Harris

Please go to a real University and study a Bachelor of Journalism, because the pointless fiction you write should be posted on websites like news of the world and maybe personal interest magazines.

Regards

Concerned Reader

by **SeaofRed** » Thu May 20, 2010 11:56 am

Octsky wrote:My greatest fear is that those clowns from the US will take the deal.

If Roman is serious and we are crazy enough, offer us 100m pounds.

If we were to sell Fernando Torres then I can guarantee you Rafa Benitez won't see a single penny of that money. All selling Fernando Torres would do is weaken our first team drastically and help Hicks and Gillett prolong their profiteering of the club.

We need to try and keep hold of Gerrard, Mascherano and Torres.

by **tubby** » Thu May 20, 2010 12:13 pm

I know he has said it before but he needs to come out and say it again. If he want's to play for us next season then he should make a statement saying he doesn't want to play for City, Chelsea, Barca or any other team. Otherwise get rid of him now I say. This looks like that season of will he wont he with Stevie and I really can't be arsed. If he is truley committed to us he will honour his contract with us and come out and re affirm this.

by **SeaofRed** » Thu May 20, 2010 12:28 pm

He is probably more focused on playing in the World Cup with Spain, maybe he is unaware of the media speculation surrounding him?

Fernando Torres has stated on no less than several occasions that he is committed to the club and I believe him. Sure he has said he might have to consider leaving England as the physical nature of the league is having adverse effects on the state of his body and he has said he would consider a move to Seria A at some point in his career, but I feel it is futile that a player should come out everytime he is linked with another club and surpress the rumours.

Liverpool FC is a hot topic amongst the media at present, they're all lining up to revel and sell stories about our fall from grace and stories like 'Fernando Torres to Barcelona for £70m' generate headlines and cause gossip amongst football fans, but I don't pay too much attention to it. Torres has a few seasons left on his contract and I expect him to be a Liverpool player after the World Cup has finished.

by **Penguins** » Thu May 20, 2010 1:00 pm

If Torres goes it could be for him wanting to win things, but just as much of the vermin needing to cash in, but in no way whoever is manager.
Rafa will get a fraction of the money to spend if any and will be blamed for all of it.
And if he leaves for Chelski or City we are f*****. I can not rule that out right now.

by **SeaofRed** » Thu May 20, 2010 1:04 pm

I keep picturing Fernando Torres in an Inter Milan shirt.

by **tubby** » Thu May 20, 2010 1:08 pm

SeaofRed wrote:I keep picturing Fernando Torres in an Inter Milan shirt.

They don't have that kind of money, no Italian club does... for now.

I take on what you said about him not having to re affirm at every turn but his comments about us needing to buy 4 or 5 better players worries me. We don't have a cats chance in hell of getting in 4 or 5 players of the quality he is referring too. At best we will get in 1 and a few mediocre free players as well and it will be the same story next summer.

by **Reg** » Thu May 20, 2010 1:09 pm

bavlondon wrote:I know he has said it before but he needs to come out and say it again. If he want's to play for us next season then he should make a statement saying he doesn't want to play for City, Chelsea, Barca or any other team. Otherwise get rid of him now I say. This looks like that season of will he wont he with Stevie and I really can't be arsed. If he is truley committed to us he will honour his contract with us and come out and re affirm this.

Torres has no reason whatsoever to come out and make a statement, why is everyone so insecure? You want the whole team to stand in the middle of Stanley Park holding hands chanting mantras to ward off rumours and gutter journalists? Certain members non stop negative posting on this forum has got people thinking every player is in danger of abandoning us ffs.

Come on guys, get a grip.

by **SeaofRed** » Thu May 20, 2010 1:30 pm

bavlondon wrote:
SeaofRed wrote:I keep picturing Fernando Torres in an Inter Milan shirt.

I take on what you said about him not having to re affirm at every turn but his comments about us needing to buy 4 or 5 better players worries me. We don't have a cats chance in hell of getting in 4 or 5 players of the quality he is referring too. At best we will get in 1 and a few mediocre free players as well and it will be the same story next summer.

People have said that Inter Milan do not have a cat in hells chance of signing someone like Fernando Torres, but they received £40m from selling Ibrahimovic to Barcelona and they'll get who knows how much for winning the Champions League, it was an estimated £30m when we won the trophy five years ago. So that will be £70m or failing that I am sure they could offer up £40m plus someone like Sneijder or god forbid Mario Balotelli, though I accept that I am merely speculating here and it would probably be wise not to do so.

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