The Alonso Thread - hands in transfer request

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Postby NANNY RED » Mon May 26, 2008 10:00 pm

The only way i would sell Xabi is for 20 million or more the lads only 26 ffs not even reached his prime yet,plus hes not long ago signed a new contract so if anyone wants him they should be prepared to pay top whack.

Whats the point of getting rid of quality we need a squad ful of quality you make a sub you bring on class for class simple.
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Postby Effes » Mon May 26, 2008 11:04 pm

If and I mean if our spending money is very thin on the ground.

Then it's a no brainer - we must sell.
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Postby Sabre » Mon May 26, 2008 11:06 pm

Effes wrote:If and I mean if our spending money is very thin on the ground.

Then it's a no brainer - we must sell.

I agree!!

But I hope we I agree with that money we can get something worth the trouble, low teens won't solve many problems to us... 20  or 20something could.
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Postby sugarcoatediceberg91 » Mon May 26, 2008 11:32 pm

Alls I hear and read is "we can't compete because of money" well there's something I'd rather have than 100 million and that's quality.

Xabi Alonso is quality, proven quality, why go out and sell him just to bring in a player who at best is on par with an below par Alonso. If we sold Alonso for 20 million (fair price) and brought in a player with the ability of a 25 year old Steven Gerrard/Paul Scholes then fair enough but Gareth Barry? No, I'd rather keep Alonso and just pray he refinds that form. We know he has it in him alls he needs is to refind it. The pace of the game is nonesense if you ask me, Makelele, Carrick, Gilberto all sit deep and are classed as world stars. Are you trying to say opposing attackers just get round Alonso solely?

We're trying to build a title winning side, Xabi Alonso fits that bill a lot more than Gareth Barry does.

(by the way I'm a fan of Barry's just not ahead of Alonso)
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Postby account deleted by request » Mon May 26, 2008 11:32 pm

I think a few people are getting a bit carried away with the Alonso arguement now. I have been saying for quite a while now that Alonso has been playing poorly. That doesn't mean he has been playing cr@p, just poorly in comparison to his own high standards of his first couple of seasons.

HE IS STILL A GOOD PLAYER. Whether he is good enough to be a regular starter in the first team, for me depends more on the formation and the players around him than him magically regaining form. He needs players to create space and time for him, so he can get his head up and pick out his passes.

I really would like to see £15million+ for him if we are going to sell him, because for £12million I just can't see the benefit to us.
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Postby metalhead » Mon May 26, 2008 11:41 pm

If we can sell crouch for 12m, then we can sell alonso for 25m
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Postby account deleted by request » Mon May 26, 2008 11:52 pm

metalhead wrote:If we can sell crouch for 12m, then we can sell alonso for 25m

If we get £25million for Alonso I will personally carry him to Italy or Spain Metalhead  :D
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Postby Effes » Tue May 27, 2008 12:15 am

sugarcoatediceberg91 wrote:Xabi Alonso is quality, proven quality, why go out and sell him just to bring in a player who at best is on par with an below par Alonso. If we sold Alonso for 20 million (fair price) and brought in a player with the ability of a 25 year old Steven Gerrard/Paul Scholes then fair enough but Gareth Barry?

The way Im looking at it is Barry is coming anyway; so the question is: Is it worth keeping Xabi with Barry already here?

The whole thing revolves around how much money we actually have.

The way I see it is, if Barry comes in, sell Xabi.
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Postby sugarcoatediceberg91 » Tue May 27, 2008 12:57 am

Effes wrote:
sugarcoatediceberg91 wrote:Xabi Alonso is quality, proven quality, why go out and sell him just to bring in a player who at best is on par with an below par Alonso. If we sold Alonso for 20 million (fair price) and brought in a player with the ability of a 25 year old Steven Gerrard/Paul Scholes then fair enough but Gareth Barry?

The way Im looking at it is Barry is coming anyway; so the question is: Is it worth keeping Xabi with Barry already here?

The whole thing revolves around how much money we actually have.

The way I see it is, if Barry comes in, sell Xabi.

Or keep Xabi and spend the 12 million we're paying for Barry on someone we actually need...i.e. David Bentley.

We sell Alonso...do we desperately need Barry? Lets face it in a 4-4-2 formation Gerrard and Mascherano are first choice. From what I've seen and heard from Lucas over the last couple of weeks next season he's gonna be a star, so again why spend 12 million on something we're not desperate for yet turn a blind eye to clear problems. 12 million could be spent on a better option than Barry. Same goes for this 8 million left back. We're told every other day that Insua is the next best thing, so why not give him a go? Keep the 8 million and 12 for Barry and you've got 20 million for someone we do need rather than someone we just want. Insua can't get experince of Premiership football unless he is playing Premiership football. Put him in, we still have Aurelio, Arbeloa, Carra and even Riise to cover.

8 million for a left back :no
12 million for a central midfield :no
20 million for a required top class player :nod
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Postby Effes » Tue May 27, 2008 1:18 am

sugarcoatediceberg91 wrote:Or keep Xabi and spend the 12 million we're paying for Barry ......................................

Yea, but the fact is.. Rafa wants to buy Barry, and it will more than likely happen.

So I'll repeat:
The question is: If Rafa buys Barry, would you sell Xabi?

Sorry, for repeating this, but I think you missed it first time round.
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Postby sugarcoatediceberg91 » Tue May 27, 2008 1:28 am

i'll answer it in a mo, so bare with me. Benitez wants to buy Barry when we don't need him...with or without Alonso in my opinion. That 12 million could be spent on something more productive.

Anyway back to the question "If Rafa buys Barry, would I sell Xabi?" Yes because I don't think Alonso will be happy plodding along behind Mascherano and Barry in the picking order. And if a player isn't happy it affects the squad, so for the benifit of the squad Xabi would have to go. I still don't see the need in Barry but if we finally sign him then Xabi will have to go.
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Postby SundanceKid » Tue May 27, 2008 1:40 am

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Sabre wrote:So you loved him but then he was below par, and now he's forgotten playing football and is useless.

Glod Bless America.

Yeah, I do appreciate what's he's done in his first few years. But he's become substitute material in my eyes. We don't need him anymore, just wasting money.

"Glod" bless America.

Who's Glod, lad? ??? :D

He was teasing me and attempted to say "God Bless America", but he said "glod". I was pointing that out to him.
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Postby SundanceKid » Tue May 27, 2008 1:48 am

"Liverpool midfielder Xabi Alonso says he has no intention of leaving the club". Not that he's wrong, but he does consider himself valuable to us, even though the referees were more involved in games than him. I know Xabi has quality, but he's no longer showing it, I don't know whether that will change or not. But it seems to me that he doesn't really understand how drastically his importance has dropped. I don't even consider him one of the essential parts of the midfield anymore.

Here's some crazy though though, if we were to keep Xabi rather than sell for some good spending money, how well do you think he'd do as a winger? Haha. I know he's not really the right type for it, but he is an artisan when it comes to passing. Maybe he's not shining because the midfield is becoming too congested for him to make through attacking passes. I really do think he should be playing winger
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Postby Effes » Tue May 27, 2008 1:59 am

SundanceKid wrote:I really do think he should be playing winger

That's just fekkin embarrassing.
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Postby SundanceKid » Tue May 27, 2008 2:02 am

Effes wrote:
SundanceKid wrote:I really do think he should be playing winger

That's just fekkin embarrassing.

Say what you will, but I'm sure you said the same thing before you actually saw Kuyt play wing. Gerrard can play wing, and he's not as quick as any other winger, why can't Xabi play it as well?

Edit: Well Gerrard can play Right Midfield, but there's not too much  of a difference lol
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