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Postby account deleted by request » Thu May 13, 2010 7:04 pm

sixbuster wrote:Is everybody missing the point- priority has to be to get rid of RAFA. End of story

This is the get rid of players thread, Rafa we get rid of in the Rafa thread, the owners and Purslow we get rid of in the Takeover thread. 

We just need a Dawson thread now  :D
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Postby LFC2007 » Thu May 13, 2010 7:41 pm

LFC_fan wrote:Thats a total of 12 players. True, Spearing is on loan, Plessis and Nemth arnt first team players and Darby can be hardly counted as first team as well, but the rest are. Thats 8 players. If we get rid of the above mentioned 8 players, how much do you think we can get?

For sure, it will not be enough to buy another 8 players to replace them in the first team squad. Even if the manager manages to buy 8 players at today's inflated prices, it would probably be maybe one 20mil player plus 7 freebies like Veronin or nunez or whatnot. And no manager will get rid of 8 squad players and replace them with a supposedly "world class" player and fill up the other 7 spots with whoever's cheap and plays in the positions he needs.

Not all of those players have to be replaced. Degen, Spearing, Plessis, Cavalieri, Ngog, Itandje, Darby and El Zahar could all leave and the squad would be no worse off. Of the others, Babel is hardly used and is sh!te anyway and Lucas "potentially better than Gerrard" Leiva is easily replaced and is not too far of 'ditto' either. Aquilani and Riera are useful players, good enough to be in the squad at the very least, but if the opportunity arose to sell either AND secure good replacements that wouldn't be a bad idea. We don't have to sign "world class" players either. Just "good" or "useful" ones would do. We don't have many in the Crouch, Kranjcar, Bent sort of bracket and those sorts would suffice.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu May 13, 2010 7:46 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
LFC_fan wrote:Thats a total of 12 players. True, Spearing is on loan, Plessis and Nemth arnt first team players and Darby can be hardly counted as first team as well, but the rest are. Thats 8 players. If we get rid of the above mentioned 8 players, how much do you think we can get?

For sure, it will not be enough to buy another 8 players to replace them in the first team squad. Even if the manager manages to buy 8 players at today's inflated prices, it would probably be maybe one 20mil player plus 7 freebies like Veronin or nunez or whatnot. And no manager will get rid of 8 squad players and replace them with a supposedly "world class" player and fill up the other 7 spots with whoever's cheap and plays in the positions he needs.

Not all of those players have to be replaced. Degen, Spearing, Plessis, Cavalieri, Ngog, Itandje, Darby and El Zahar could all leave and the squad would be no worse off. Of the others, Babel is hardly used and is sh!te anyway and Lucas "potentially better than Gerrard" Leiva is easily replaced and is not too far of 'ditto' either. Aquilani and Riera are useful players, good enough to be in the squad at the very least, but if the opportunity arose to sell either AND secure good replacements that wouldn't be a bad idea. We don't have to sign "world class" players either. Just "good" or "useful" ones would do. We don't have many in the Crouch, Kranjcar, Bent sort of bracket and those sorts would suffice.

Good post

Babel is hardly used and is sh!te anyway and Lucas "potentially better than Gerrard" Leiva


This bit cracked me up  :laugh:
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Postby dawson99 » Thu May 13, 2010 8:01 pm

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sixbuster wrote:Is everybody missing the point- priority has to be to get rid of RAFA. End of story

This is the get rid of players thread, Rafa we get rid of in the Rafa thread, the owners and Purslow we get rid of in the Takeover thread. 

We just need a Dawson thread now  :D

oi

Where is that thread?
I reckon itd be tight but id be gone lol
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Postby LFC2007 » Thu May 13, 2010 8:12 pm

s@int wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
LFC_fan wrote:Thats a total of 12 players. True, Spearing is on loan, Plessis and Nemth arnt first team players and Darby can be hardly counted as first team as well, but the rest are. Thats 8 players. If we get rid of the above mentioned 8 players, how much do you think we can get?

For sure, it will not be enough to buy another 8 players to replace them in the first team squad. Even if the manager manages to buy 8 players at today's inflated prices, it would probably be maybe one 20mil player plus 7 freebies like Veronin or nunez or whatnot. And no manager will get rid of 8 squad players and replace them with a supposedly "world class" player and fill up the other 7 spots with whoever's cheap and plays in the positions he needs.

Not all of those players have to be replaced. Degen, Spearing, Plessis, Cavalieri, Ngog, Itandje, Darby and El Zahar could all leave and the squad would be no worse off. Of the others, Babel is hardly used and is sh!te anyway and Lucas "potentially better than Gerrard" Leiva is easily replaced and is not too far of 'ditto' either. Aquilani and Riera are useful players, good enough to be in the squad at the very least, but if the opportunity arose to sell either AND secure good replacements that wouldn't be a bad idea. We don't have to sign "world class" players either. Just "good" or "useful" ones would do. We don't have many in the Crouch, Kranjcar, Bent sort of bracket and those sorts would suffice.

Good post

Babel is hardly used and is sh!te anyway and Lucas "potentially better than Gerrard" Leiva


This bit cracked me up  :laugh:

Do you remember that?  :D  I'm pretty sure I gave him the big build up too mind  :laugh:
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Postby Johnny Boy » Thu May 13, 2010 8:16 pm

I think Degen has done ok, he cost us nothing, the doubt is can he stay fit. Benitez has under-used him in my opinion.

The priority should be to get rid of who we do not need, are not good enough and we could get money for.
El Zhar, Babel, Riera, Kuyt, Lucas are the stand out one's for me.
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Postby Emerald Red » Fri May 14, 2010 8:24 pm

dawson99 wrote:I still rate Degan, when hes match fit he adds something

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Sorry, Daws, but I had to laugh.
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Postby dawson99 » Fri May 14, 2010 8:26 pm

Degan's class mate, you wait and see, the boy'll come good
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Postby Emerald Red » Fri May 14, 2010 8:26 pm

Johnny Boy wrote:I think Degen has done ok, he cost us nothing, the doubt is can he stay fit. Benitez has under-used him in my opinion.

The priority should be to get rid of who we do not need, are not good enough and we could get money for.
El Zhar, Babel, Riera, Kuyt, Lucas are the stand out one's for me.

Degen should not be anywhere near a club the size of Liverpool Football Club. Why the f*ck Benitez brought him anywhere near us is baffling in the extreme. How the man made it as a professional player is also just as baffling. Says a lot when this is the kind of player we have sitting on the bench. He's got pace, but that's it. I have pace (or at least I did when I was active) but I'm not warming the bench of one of the biggest clubs on the planet, am I?
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Postby Emerald Red » Fri May 14, 2010 8:28 pm

dawson99 wrote:Degan's class mate, you wait and see, the boy'll come good

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Now I know you really are taking the p*ss.

Him and Babel - first out the door. Wooden ones the pair of em.
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Postby dawson99 » Fri May 14, 2010 8:29 pm

Babel would be a good player with a half decent club and if hes played in the right position

As for Degan, hes got a bit of skill, hes better than some of the dross thats worn the top recently
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Postby account deleted by request » Fri May 14, 2010 8:31 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
s@int wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
LFC_fan wrote:Thats a total of 12 players. True, Spearing is on loan, Plessis and Nemth arnt first team players and Darby can be hardly counted as first team as well, but the rest are. Thats 8 players. If we get rid of the above mentioned 8 players, how much do you think we can get?

For sure, it will not be enough to buy another 8 players to replace them in the first team squad. Even if the manager manages to buy 8 players at today's inflated prices, it would probably be maybe one 20mil player plus 7 freebies like Veronin or nunez or whatnot. And no manager will get rid of 8 squad players and replace them with a supposedly "world class" player and fill up the other 7 spots with whoever's cheap and plays in the positions he needs.

Not all of those players have to be replaced. Degen, Spearing, Plessis, Cavalieri, Ngog, Itandje, Darby and El Zahar could all leave and the squad would be no worse off. Of the others, Babel is hardly used and is sh!te anyway and Lucas "potentially better than Gerrard" Leiva is easily replaced and is not too far of 'ditto' either. Aquilani and Riera are useful players, good enough to be in the squad at the very least, but if the opportunity arose to sell either AND secure good replacements that wouldn't be a bad idea. We don't have to sign "world class" players either. Just "good" or "useful" ones would do. We don't have many in the Crouch, Kranjcar, Bent sort of bracket and those sorts would suffice.

Good post

Babel is hardly used and is sh!te anyway and Lucas "potentially better than Gerrard" Leiva


This bit cracked me up  :laugh:

Do you remember that?  :D  I'm pretty sure I gave him the big build up too mind  :laugh:

No mate, didn't realise it was from a past prediction, just thought it was a cracking way to introduce Lucas  :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Fri May 14, 2010 9:16 pm

dawson99 wrote:I still rate Degan, when hes match fit he adds something

Don't worry mate :-

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

I think you are still at the being ridiculed stage mate  :D
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Postby dawson99 » Fri May 14, 2010 9:29 pm

s@int wrote:I think you are still at the being ridiculed stage mate  :D

That sounds like my sex life too, feck im starting to see a pattern
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 14, 2010 9:41 pm

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dawson99 wrote:I still rate Degan, when hes match fit he adds something

Don't worry mate :-

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

I think you are still at the being ridiculed stage mate  :D

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