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Moores seems unwilling to compromise with people, I admire him for holding out and wanting what's best, but surely a little bit of flexibility would go a long way? I don't understand much about it, but this is the impression I'm getting from the failed investments thus far.

[Ciggy]

Silence is feckin deafening from the club, come out with a proper statement instead of letting us fans be worrying about whats going to happen to our club in the future.

From Forbes.

Another benefit of the salary cap is the ability some team owners have to leverage their arena. Earlier this year, George Gillett, who bought the Montreal Canadiens and the Bell Centre for $181 million in 2001, borrowed $240 million (most of which was secured by the arena). The financing allowed Gillett to pay himself a $72 million dividend.

http://www.forbes.com/busines....ro.html

So this fella is going to borrow another 500 million pounds to buy us? 

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ALONSO
If this is not a mess...than what do you call it?...as it has been said great timing...just before a derby!.
 

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Worse things could have happened to us, it's not ideal before a derby or in terms of us becoming a force, but the best we can do is focus our attention on Everton (as hard as it is at the moment) and think positive. I'm annoyed as anyone, and the facts about this American person aren't filling me up with delight, more fear for the future of our club, but I am trying to remain calm and somewhat positive. Cut me some slack.

[Ciggy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Canadiens

These sound familar great history but havent won anything since he took over.

I dont know anything about the guy but I just dont trust him one bit.

Best not to sell atall better the devil you know sometimes Id prefer the current board to remain in place rather than him taking over.

If something looks like shit, and smellas like shit, then chances are it probably is shit.

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I think we are all annoyed over this anouncement, and everybody is looking for someone to blame?. We as a club, and fans need to be focused on saturdays game...although the timing of this breakdown with the D.I.C. is unfortunate, its something we have to deal with....so lets get behind the reds...and hope things resolve themselves for the better of L.F.C..........and to fukk with the yank!.

[Leonmc0708]

I still want us to be taken over by DIC.

Well thats not going to happen now is it

That's because Moores is a . I'm sorry, I know the man loves the club, but he has done more damage for Liverpool than good. Allowing Fowler to leave for nothing £11m yeah great price, hiring Houllier and Souness, not backing Evans in the transfer market, no making us a global brand when the Prem took off, the guy doesn't know how to run a club. Thanks Moores, but go away and stop messing potential investors about.

Moores has made this club what it is today.

Fowler did nothing after we got £11m for him, thats an unbeleivable piece of business (not entirely Morres' doing though)

Evans spent £8.5m on Collymore, a then British record.

You know nothing about football, please dont comment.

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I see the hysteria has reached preposterous levels following today's turn of events.  I'm well disappointed that DIC pulled out of the deal but I think the rubbish being spouted about Gillett on here is well OTT.  I don't know that much about the guy and I certainly have no crystal ball to predict how'd he'd run the club if he takes over but, here's a few things to bear in mind, just for the record like...

1) He has nothing to do with Gillette razors.  His money's mostly been made in Colorado ski resorts, television stations and a meat-packing company

2) He went bankrupt once--not twice--in 1992 (not the only person to lose a wedge on junk bonds)

3) Since then he's rebuilt his fortune in a quite savvy way and is well diversified

4) He's not yet 70 and 3 of his 4 sons are involved in his companies

5) From what I've read in various press reports, he's quashed the idea of a groundshare and is behind a new stadium exclusively for LFC

6) He is well respected in Montreal for his ownership of the Canadiens and this matters more than you might think because...

Arguably, the Canadiens are the Liverpool FC of the NHL--the league's most storied franchise (with a league topping 24 Stanley Cups) but a club whose last title was 14 years ago. 

When Gillett took over in 2001, the Canadiens (aka "Les Habs") were struggling: they had become a mediocre team on the ice and a directionless club off it.  Gillett injected the money, brought in very smart hockey people and the team has once again started to challenge for honours (have made the playoffs ever since and have progressed deep into the playoffs on a couple of occasions).

Now, I promise you, as much as you all despise "the Yanks," most Canadians (not me) hate them more and that goes double in Montreal, where the french-speaking Quebecois hold them in great contempt.  As such, Gillett's arrival was not warmly received and he's had a huge task of winning them over.  He seems to have won the fans trust and respect, though, by turning the club around on the ice, by bolstering its finances, and by reinstituting the 'family feel' that had evaporated under the prior corporate owners, Molson Breweries.

Now, I'm not saying he's perfect and he may not be right for Liverpool.  Nor is it certain that he'll take over given how all of these takeovers seem to fall through.  But, I think it is important to be a little open-minded about him as a potential owner and perhaps to have a little faith that David Moores is looking carefully at his bid because it is a bid worth looking at.

Thats fine but you havent told me anything i dont already know, no oh yes he`s only been bankrutp once, well lovely in that case give the the keys, lets all get down there to welcome him.
I cant help but fear for the future of the club, LFC is bigger than you, me, him and anyone else. We need a new stadium to remain a self sustaining entity if it wasnt for that id say f.uck it we`ll wait another two years if need be.but the fact is we cant,  not going ahead with it now would cripple us and thats the anoying thing we have no choise and that leaves us vunnerable.
I didnt like the idea of the club being owned by the Dubai goverment at first but the more he/they spoke the more i come round to the idea after all he was a fan just like me, just like us, but once again the board could not deliver on there promise not just to the sheik but also it seems (ok at least at the moment) to us. This is not just about money its about traditions, history and most importantly people, fans the best fuc.kin fans in the world and the most loyal and we inturn deserve only the same back, the best and out of the two DIC were the best for the club and for the people but i feel the board has let us down and then hasnt even given us a decent explanation just a couple of lines and why because there most proberly isnt one.We deserve more.



Sorry for being a little off.

[Leonmc0708]

A lot of people are going to feel very silly readign this thread i nteh next week or so.

Calm Down Calm Down

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You're right he did, we are now a club who cannot amount a successful challenge for the Premiership. I'm not usually a critic of his, but I'm annoyed at his unwillingness to be flexible with investors.

[Ciggy]

Dave Usher's post on TLW


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I've got to be careful what I say here, as some things I have been told but have to keep quiet about, for now at least. It's probably for the best, because you probably wouldn't believe them anyway and those that did would be looking to lynch Parry and especially Moores.

What I will say is that Parry and Moores have really put themselves in a up position here. They were letting people know that they weren't interested in Gillett, and DIC was the perfect option for us etc.

Then, Gillett comes in with an offer that was significantly bigger than DIC's, and suddenly the 'concerns' they have about him disappear. Amazing what an extra £8m in your bank will make you overlook. They then try to tell people that Moores has some reservations about DIC's offer, and that Gillett may actually be the best option for the club. What actually happened was DIC pulled out because Moores decided their offer wasn't big enough.

They told us (by feeding off the record comments to the press) DIC was the best option, and they weren't interested in Gillett so why should we now believe that they are acting in the best interests of the club?

This is the biggest decision in the history of the club. The question is, how many people actually trust Parry and Moores to get this right?

I don't, I think they're with the club's future, and this could end in tears. More so David Moores than Rick Parry to be fair, as ultimately Parry doesn't make the final decision.

I don't want that Gillett anywhere near my club, and I don't trust David Moores as far as I could throw him.

I'm so off about this, as things are going great on the pitch, but these two clowns could unstablise everything. incompetant morons.

Steve Morgan should go public now and tell everyone exactly what has gone on. If the truth comes out, you'll have a different view of David Moores.

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I have said it before and I,ll say it again...perhaps some sort of verbal protest at the game on saturday with a few banners..directed towards the main stand directors would help get the message across to the board?. 

[Leonmc0708]

Dave Usher's post on TLW


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I've got to be careful what I say here, as some things I have been told but have to keep quiet about, for now at least. It's probably for the best, because you probably wouldn't believe them anyway and those that did would be looking to lynch Parry and especially Moores.

What I will say is that Parry and Moores have really put themselves in a up position here. They were letting people know that they weren't interested in Gillett, and DIC was the perfect option for us etc.

Then, Gillett comes in with an offer that was significantly bigger than DIC's, and suddenly the 'concerns' they have about him disappear. Amazing what an extra £8m in your bank will make you overlook. They then try to tell people that Moores has some reservations about DIC's offer, and that Gillett may actually be the best option for the club. What actually happened was DIC pulled out because Moores decided their offer wasn't big enough.

They told us (by feeding off the record comments to the press) DIC was the best option, and they weren't interested in Gillett so why should we now believe that they are acting in the best interests of the club?

This is the biggest decision in the history of the club. The question is, how many people actually trust Parry and Moores to get this right?

I don't, I think they're with the club's future, and this could end in tears. More so David Moores than Rick Parry to be fair, as ultimately Parry doesn't make the final decision.

I don't want that Gillett anywhere near my club, and I don't trust David Moores as far as I could throw him.

I'm so off about this, as things are going great on the pitch, but these two clowns could unstablise everything. incompetant morons.

Steve Morgan should go public now and tell everyone exactly what has gone on. If the truth comes out, you'll have a different view of David Moores.

A concise well thought out balanced view of the situation.

NOT

[Ciggy]

I have said it before and I,ll say it again...perhaps some sort of verbal protest at the game on saturday with a few banners..directed towards the main stand directors would help get the message across to the board?. 

Might be to late by then I feel, and we dont want to be protesting infront of the bitters it will also make the players lose concentration.

[Leonmc0708]

I have said it before and I,ll say it again...perhaps some sort of verbal protest at the game on saturday with a few banners..directed towards the main stand directors would help get the message across to the board?. 

Never.

I take it you dont go the match soft lad.

Never ever at Anfield that shi.te.