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Postby tubby » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:37 pm

The majority of the CL winnings in still unspent i mean weve only got Crouch Sissoko, and Reina since then. The Gonzales deal was agreed ages ago so thats seperate too. With the progress Rafa is making in the EPL i dont think David Moores or Rick Parry would want to rock the boat. Whatim saying is whatever Rafa wants im sure hell get.
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Postby bigmick » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:04 pm

A.B. wrote:King is not as good as Hyypia is in the air, and because Carragher isn't either, the partnership would not work as well as Carra and Sami at the moment. We do need cover, but King would cost too much for just cover

King would certainly cost a pretty penny AB but would be worth it in my opinion. He may as you say not be as good in the air as Sami but there's not many that are to be fair. In every other department though the guy is absolutely out of the top drawer. He's only a young fella aswell for a centre-half. Buy him and you're buying a defensive rock who will play 300 league games for us and be the sort of player you can build a defence around.
He has pace, power and strength in equal measure as well as posessing enough ability on the ball to play in midfield. This bloke has it all and is well worth the 12-17 million squid he would probably cost.
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:09 pm

He has pace, power and strength in equal measure as well as posessing enough ability on the ball to play in midfield. This bloke has it all and is well worth the 12-17 million squid he would probably cost.


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Postby hawkmoon269 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:09 pm

bavlondon wrote:The majority of the CL winnings in still unspent i mean weve only got Crouch Sissoko, and Reina since then. The Gonzales deal was agreed ages ago so thats seperate too. With the progress Rafa is making in the EPL i dont think David Moores or Rick Parry would want to rock the boat. Whatim saying is whatever Rafa wants im sure hell get.

But what Gerrard?  We have spent a fortune keeping him! Although admittingly less than it would have cost to buy a replacement. So you may have to factor the increased wages into the equation! Also, Traore and Carra both got better deals, so that's a bit more spent.
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Postby Anfield rapper » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:00 pm

I honestly don't think we will be as active in the transfer market as alot of people think. January is a notoriously difficult time to get quality players in. I think Benitez might want to wait till the summer when people aren't cup-tied. My bet is on him only getting a CB in.
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Postby wrighty (not mark!) » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:14 pm

The flip side to buying in January is that there is a good chance with the players being potentially cup-tied will consequenmtly work out cheaper.
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Postby A.B. » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:40 pm

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A.B. wrote:King is not as good as Hyypia is in the air, and because Carragher isn't either, the partnership would not work as well as Carra and Sami at the moment. We do need cover, but King would cost too much for just cover

King would certainly cost a pretty penny AB but would be worth it in my opinion. He may as you say not be as good in the air as Sami but there's not many that are to be fair. In every other department though the guy is absolutely out of the top drawer. He's only a young fella aswell for a centre-half. Buy him and you're buying a defensive rock who will play 300 league games for us and be the sort of player you can build a defence around.
He has pace, power and strength in equal measure as well as posessing enough ability on the ball to play in midfield. This bloke has it all and is well worth the 12-17 million squid he would probably cost.

Worst case scenario, lets say Spurs want 17 million for him. Would Benitez pay that amount considering that could it well take up most of his funds for January?

King signed a new contract with Spurs and I've heard that they've doubled his wages in order to persuade him to stay
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Postby bigmick » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:22 pm

A.B. wrote:King signed a new contract with Spurs and I've heard that they've doubled his wages in order to persuade him to stay

You may well be correct on the contract front but my feeling is that he is still negotiating with Spurs over his deal. If Spurs want 17 million for him I'd pay it if it was up to me.
His situation and potential reminds me a little of Gary Pallister when he was at Middlesboro. The World and his brother looked at him, pretty much everyone was of the opinion that in a big team he would make a big player. Boro wanted what seemed at the time silly money for him and only Whisky breath was prepared to stump up the wodge. Turned out to be pretty cheap in the end as he part of Manure most successful period ever.
When assessing the quality of King people would do well to remember that on the occasions when England have been short of a centre-half due to injury or suspension, Erikkson has always preferred King to Carragher. Those who claim that the big man is overrated are living in a dilusional World if you ask me. Buy him now because if you wait 'till the summer, you'll be competing with Arsenal and Manure for his signature.
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Postby ivor_the_injun » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:56 pm

I think it's time for some of these loaned out players to finally get off our books. No doubt we'll end up losing millions in terms of what we paid to get the guys in the first place, but hey ho.

I'm wondering whether Kirkland's loan at West Brom is going to be made permanent next month. He was making noises to that effect a while ago, although how much money WB have for transfers in another matter. If someone does sign him, that's £2m-£3m, surely?

Any word on how Cheyrou's doing at Bordeaux? Last I heard he was injured, but wondered if he's back playing again now.

Sunderland will possibly give us half a mill for Le Tallec if pushed.

Not a clue what's happened to Diao (injured?), but seeing as though he can't force his way onto Portsmouth's bench at the minute, let alone the starting 11, I think it's fair to say that he won't be returning to us.
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Postby ivor_the_injun » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:00 am


Just to show how little faith you should put in news reports that have the phrase "Unconfirmed rumours" in the title...

This rumour was started by a Manc mate of mine that works for one of the nationals. He does this every now and again to get some of the forums going mental, which in turn gives him more meat with which to build a story. It's a b*stard's trick, but all the red tops have been doing it for years, and we f*ckers lap it all up.  :D
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:26 pm

If spurs wants 17m, forget him. Let look at other player. We want someone that is cheap, good and young.

How about Chris Riggott or Matthew Upson ?? They are young, they are english and they are not world class player but they are good CB.
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Postby A.B. » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:39 pm

Riggott says that he wants to stay at Boro, and well Upson is decent but I don't think he'd improve our back four much at all.
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:41 pm

Riggott says that he wants to stay at Boro, and well Upson is decent but I don't think he'd improve our back four much at all.


we should try to get them if king price to high ...
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Postby JC_81 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:03 pm

We obviously all have differing opinions on how the money should be spent in January, and equally differing opinions on whether Ledley King is worth the quoted 12-17 mil.

My take on King is that:

1.  We don't need him right now.  There is nothing wrong with the defence, why spend big money on King and upset the balance.  We need a youngish apprentice to Hyypia who can cover for now and eventually replace him, not a big money buy with a big reputation expecting to walk into the team.

2.  Carragher needs to play alongside a centre half who's dominant in the air first and foremost.  Hyypia is the best in the business in that department which is why the partnership works.  King could grow into this role perhaps, but that's not his game right now.  A partnership of Carra/King right now would take time to work imo.

3.  There is absolutely no way King is leaving Spurs imo.  I think his agents are using us to get him a better contract at Spurs.  Spurs WILL give him what he wants because there would be an uproar if a similar situation to the Sol Campbell one developed.  He is a London lad, club captain and like it or not Spurs are a team on the up, there would have to be some serious sort of falling out at Spurs for him to consider leaving at this stage of his career.  He knows he'd have a fight on his hands to get starting ahead of Carra/Sami also, he's not going to risk his world cup place by leaving Spurs for us in January, it's ludicrous.
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