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[Fauxy]

What was the point in taking him all the way to Romania and back when Rafa clearly had NO intention of playing.

All good and well saying he is back in the fold, wants to be back amongst his team mates etc but surely he would have been better training/resting up in Liverpool and preparing himself for the weekends game...

and if we'd gone 2-0 behind and torres was sat in liverpool? 

everything went according to   plan so he wasn't required - is that so strange? 

Spot on.

Torres was there to be used as a last resort if we had major problems. We didnt have any problems, so we didnt need to play him.

[Dundalk]

Drogba is averaging a PL goal every 102 minutes this season. Rooney's record is 105 minutes and Torres weighs in every 101 minutes.   

[Cool Hand Luke]

Seems a stupid time to bring him back. He came back against Man City and played 15 minutes and was an unused sub against Unirea Urziceni, and will probably play 15 minutes against Blackburn and then off with Spain.

We should have pencilled him in against Wigan on the 8th that way he wouldn’t be away with Spain and instead could have trained and built up his strength.

[kazza]

Don't forget he is Spanish and odds are he wants to play for Spain.

[leep33]

I think he will start on the bench and get the last twenty minutes, if he does play for spain then hopefully he will start on the bench and just be given a run out in the second half, that could benefit us if he got more playing time. I cannot see him wanting to miss any games for Spain so that may be the best solution.

[Owzat]

Don't forget he is Spanish and odds are he wants to play for Spain.

Hopefully he will realise that playing for Spain in a friendly isn't the same as lifting the European Championship trophy, or the World Cup. There's nothing he can prove in a friendly, it's silly for him to even consider wanting to play in a friendly and risk not playing for his club for the rest of this season OR country at the World Cup.

Not to mention the fact that it's more sensible for the medical team treating and monitoring his recent injury (problem) to continue doing so rather than some Spanish medical team thinking about it as an afterthought having not been involved at any point. He's better off resting, getting any treatment needed here to keep him available and not fly anywhere for a meaningless game - no matter how much he loves his country.

[Yossi_Benaloon]

It is worrying for him to go straight into playing for his country so soon after coming back from injury, even Jamie Carragher has expressed his fears about it, which shows how much Torres is regarded among the squad. You can understand why he would want to play for his country at every possible opportunity but lets keep everything crossed he comes back unscathed.

[Fauxy]

Well this could be looked at in a good way..

He needs match fitness, he needs to get his form back and he could use extra confidence. All of these he might be able to get from the Spain match.

If he gets injured though, it would be a massive blow so although its a risk playing him in a friendly it can still have good things come out of it.

[DrPepe]

Well this could be looked at in a good way..

He needs match fitness, he needs to get his form back and he could use extra confidence. All of these he might be able to get from the Spain match.

If he gets injured though, it would be a massive blow so although its a risk playing him in a friendly it can still have good things come out of it.

yeah i feel the same


tbh we haven't got a leg to stand on expecting Spain not to pick him if we play him from the off against a team like BR

fingers crossed though eh?

[Rush Job]

Well this could be looked at in a good way..

He needs match fitness, he needs to get his form back and he could use extra confidence. All of these he might be able to get from the Spain match.

If he gets injured though, it would be a massive blow so although its a risk playing him in a friendly it can still have good things come out of it.

yeah i feel the same


tbh we haven't got a leg to stand on expecting Spain not to pick him if we play him from the off against a team like BR

fingers crossed though eh?

Big difference mate, we played him because we needed him in a must win game, their playing a friendly ffs.
If he does end up injured again and misses the world cup it`ll be their own fault and is it not wise to try other people just in case?

[kazza]

Don't forget he is Spanish and odds are he wants to play for Spain.

Hopefully he will realise that playing for Spain in a friendly isn't the same as lifting the European Championship trophy, or the World Cup. There's nothing he can prove in a friendly, it's silly for him to even consider wanting to play in a friendly and risk not playing for his club for the rest of this season OR country at the World Cup.

Not to mention the fact that it's more sensible for the medical team treating and monitoring his recent injury (problem) to continue doing so rather than some Spanish medical team thinking about it as an afterthought having not been involved at any point. He's better off resting, getting any treatment needed here to keep him available and not fly anywhere for a meaningless game - no matter how much he loves his country.

Players want to play as many times for their country as possible as when they retire that is what they are left with (aside from medals). It does not matter really if it is a friendly or a WC match, a cap is a cap and the more the better. Players should always want to play (even if not fully fit) because that is what they are, football players, so I really cannot blame him for wanting to play.

It is the Spanish coach that should do what you say and protect him, but if it was up to Torres, he'll play.

[Rush Job]

Don't forget he is Spanish and odds are he wants to play for Spain.

Hopefully he will realise that playing for Spain in a friendly isn't the same as lifting the European Championship trophy, or the World Cup. There's nothing he can prove in a friendly, it's silly for him to even consider wanting to play in a friendly and risk not playing for his club for the rest of this season OR country at the World Cup.

Not to mention the fact that it's more sensible for the medical team treating and monitoring his recent injury (problem) to continue doing so rather than some Spanish medical team thinking about it as an afterthought having not been involved at any point. He's better off resting, getting any treatment needed here to keep him available and not fly anywhere for a meaningless game - no matter how much he loves his country.

Players want to play as many times for their country as possible as when they retire that is what they are left with (aside from medals). It does not matter really if it is a friendly or a WC match, a cap is a cap and the more the better. Players should always want to play (even if not fully fit) because that is what they are, football players, so I really cannot blame him for wanting to play.

It is the Spanish coach that should do what you say and protect him, but if it was up to Torres, he'll play.

And what if playing needless games for your country, and getting injured means you miss out on medals for your club?
A bit of common sence is needed although I agree you cant really blame Torres for hearing the call, there would be uproar in spain if he refused to play.
You never know rafa might have agreed to him getting 45-60 minutes for fitness?

[Owzat]

Torres needs to take a little more care of his body and show a bit more sense. He's missed games through injury, he needs to take stock of his injuries and realise that this friendly is just pointless and playing for his club is a better way to get fit and prepare for the World Cup

Or perhaps you think Ryan Giggs, much criticised for it, was wrong not to play lots of meaningless friendlies? The problem is footballers these days can play 50-60 club matches in a season and to throw in qualifiers AND friendlies is just too many games. Torres won't play 50-60 club matches in a season because he gets injured, playing friendlies won't help. So in his case he has to make the odd sacrifice or he could end up like Owen. If he wasn't just coming back from injury then him playing might be ok, but the timing is wrong and if he gets injured now so soon after coming back then his chances of playing at the World Cup may disappear completely. He needs to decide, friendly now and maybe no World Cup, or friendly after that and World Cup.

[Roger Red Hat]

I ain't religous but even I'll be saying a prayer that he comes through the game a bit fitter and not injured. 

[bunglemark2]

It's a friendly, so I reckon the manager will - if he DOES use him - use him sparingly..