Squad- Who should we keep and boot

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Postby redshade » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:17 pm

Name Pos. Age Nationality Contract Ends
22 Simon Mignolet GK 27 Belgian 2018
34 Adam Bogdan GK 27 Hungarian 2018
2 Nathaniel Clyne RB 24 English 2020
38 Jon Flanagan RB 22 English 2016
4 Kolo Toure CB 34 Ivorian 2016
6 Dejan Lovren CB 26 Croatian 2019
37 Martin Skrtel CB 30 Slovakian 2018
17 Mamadou Sakho CB 25 French 2018
12 Joe Gomez CB 18 English 2020
3 Jose Enrique LB 29 Spanish 2016
18 Alberto Moreno LB 22 Spanish 2019
23 Emre Can CM 21 German 2019
21 Lucas Leiva CM 28 Brazilian 2017
14 Jordan Henderson CM 24 English 2020
7 James Milner CM 29 English 2019
24 Joe Allen CM 25 Welsh 2017
53 Joao Carlos Teixeira CM 22 Portuguese 2016
46 Jordan Rossiter CM 18 English 2019
20 Adam Lallana AM 27 English 2019
10 Philippe Coutinho AM 22 Brazilian 2020
33 Jordon Ibe AM 19 English 2020
11 Roberto Firmino FW 23 Brazilian 2020
9 Christian Benteke FW 24 Belgian 2019
15 Daniel Sturridge FW 25 English 2019
28 Danny Ings FW 22 English 2020
27 Divock Origi FW 20 Belgian 2019

Loans

All season loans unless stated otherwise

Danny Ward – Aberdeen
Luis Alberto – Deportivo La Coruna
Lloyd Jones – Blackpool
Jordan Williams – Swindon Town
Kevin Stewart – Swindon Town
Andre Wisdom – Norwich City
Lawrence Vigouroux – Swindon Town
Sheyi Ojo – Wolves
Harry Wilson – Crewe Alexandra (January 2016)
Mario Balotelli – AC Milan
Lazar Markovic – Fenerbahce
Joe Maguire – Leyton Orient (September 2016)
Ryan McLaughlin – Aberdeen (January 2016)
Samed Yesil – FC Luzern
Sergi Canos – Brentford (January 2016)
Taiwo Awoniyi – FSV Frankfurt
Tiago Ilori – Aston Villa
Allan – Seinajoen Jalkapallokerho (January 2016)
Ryan Kent – Coventry (January 2016)

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Just copied and pasted the squad bit hard to arrange properly on my mobile. Anyhow im sure it makes sense.

So lads there it is our awesome squad.
Who should we keep?
Who should we sell?
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Postby Dundreamin is back » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:59 pm

Get rid of
Mignolet *****
Toure    Too old
Skirtel.   *****
Enrique. Who?
Lallana. *****
Firmino. *****
Benteke. Not suitable
Sturridge.Made of crisps!
Ballotelli. *****
Yesil. *****
Ilori. *****
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Postby Klopptomaniac » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:14 pm

Keep:

2 Nathaniel Clyne RB 24 English 2020
38 Jon Flanagan RB 22 English 2016
6 Dejan Lovren CB 26 Croatian 2019
17 Mamadou Sakho CB 25 French 2018
12 Joe Gomez CB 18 English 2020
18 Alberto Moreno LB 22 Spanish 2019
23 Emre Can CM 21 German 2019
21 Lucas Leiva CM 28 Brazilian 2017
14 Jordan Henderson CM 24 English 2020
53 Joao Carlos Teixeira CM 22 Portuguese 2016
46 Jordan Rossiter CM 18 English 2019
10 Philippe Coutinho AM 22 Brazilian 2020
33 Jordon Ibe AM 19 English 2020
11 Roberto Firmino FW 23 Brazilian 2020
28 Danny Ings FW 22 English 2020

Do what you want with the rest - the number of players I'm happy to lose comfortably outweighs the number I'd keep, which is pretty telling
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Postby JC_81 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:15 pm

Lallana and Mignolet top of my list to go. Shortly followed by Allen. Those 3 have had enough time to prove themselves and haven't. Lovren goes without saying.

To be honest I'd listen to offers for almost any of the current squad which says it all really. But wholesale changes in one go isn't good either so it has to be done in stages. A solid spine is critical. A new GK, a commanding CB and a proper controlling midfielder should be the priorities.

I like Sakho, Clyne, Henderson, Coutinho and obviously Sturridge when fit. They are the only 5 id definitely keep.  Some of the others can be worked with like Can, Moreno, Ibe, maybe Milner for another season. Skrtel isn't the worst but isn't quite good enough either to be starting every week.
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Postby UvS xR4GEx » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:23 pm

Keep..

Sturridge
Firmino
Coutinho
Henderson
Skrtel
Sakho
Moreno
Clyne


The rest you can get rid of as far as I'm concerned after the last 3 games.
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Postby Fowler_E7 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:26 pm

I would keep the following players (List below) the rest can be sold, obviously we cant sell everyone but i mean anyone not on the list should be open to offers. We simply must buy a Goal keeper, Center back, Left back and Central midfield player by next summer at the very latest.

Firmino (Based on the fact that hes fairly new and expensive)
Sturridge
Sakho
Ibe
Gomez
Milner
Henderson
Can
Couthino
Texieria
Ings
Clyne
Flannagan
Benteke (Again just based on time at the club and price)
Ballotelli
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Postby parchpea » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:44 pm

Bogdan, Mignolet, Toure, Skrtel, Sakho, Lucas, Allen, Lallana, Balotelli, Benteke.

Any player 21+ who has appeared less than 5 times in the first team and been at the club 3+ years, out the door. Dont constantly renew young player contracts, no mercy policy, keep a hungry group.

Ignore calls for squad continuity as clubs are now proving it has no value.

Do not be seduced then rolled over by agents touting players, stay smart and do real home work not just based on stastical analysis and third party recommendations.
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Postby aCe' » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:09 pm

Keep:

Sakho
Clyne
Henderson
Coutinho
Sturridge


Do what you want with the rest Jurgen.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:50 pm

aCe' » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:09 pm wrote:Keep:

Sakho
Clyne
Henderson
Coutinho
Sturridge


Do what you want with the rest Jurgen.

Agree.

I'd be tempted to keep hold of Can and Firmino, but the rest give us nothing of note. Huge clear out needed and not a world class player among our squad, which is the most depressing...
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:06 pm

Keep

Coutinho

If a decent bid came in for anyone else in that squad we should take it.
We do have a lot of potential that will still take time to develop but our immediate problem is the spine of the team. Goal keeper, Centre halves, Midfield and we need to pretty much replace that before the start of next season. Its only 5 or 6 players and if we can get quality then we stand a better chance of getting some of that potential to step up.

Another problem is the lack of a leader in that side. No one steps up on the pitch and leads by example  :no I thought a few were beginning to show improvement under klopp but they have slowly reverted to type. People like lallana sicken the titties off me because if you were to ask him to rate his liverpool career to date out of 10 he would give himself a 7.5.

When I say quality as well I mean it would at least be a start if we signed players who have actually won something.
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Postby SkippyRed » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:44 pm

redshade » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:17 pm wrote:Name Pos. Age Nationality Contract Ends
22 Simon Mignolet GK 27 Belgian 2018 - Sell
34 Adam Bogdan GK 27 Hungarian 2018 - Sell
2 Nathaniel Clyne RB 24 English 2020 - Keep
38 Jon Flanagan RB 22 English 2016 - Keep
4 Kolo Toure CB 34 Ivorian 2016 - Let go
6 Dejan Lovren CB 26 Croatian 2019 - Sell
37 Martin Skrtel CB 30 Slovakian 2018 - Sell
17 Mamadou Sakho CB 25 French 2018 - Keep at all costs
12 Joe Gomez CB 18 English 2020 - Keep
3 Jose Enrique LB 29 Spanish 2016 - Let go
18 Alberto Moreno LB 22 Spanish 2019 - Keep
23 Emre Can CM 21 German 2019         - Keep
21 Lucas Leiva CM 28 Brazilian 2017 - Sell
14 Jordan Henderson CM 24 English 2020 - Keep
7 James Milner CM 29 English 2019 - Sell
24 Joe Allen CM 25 Welsh 2017 - Sell
53 Joao Carlos Teixeira CM 22 Portuguese 2016 - Keep
46 Jordan Rossiter CM 18 English 2019 - Keep
20 Adam Lallana AM 27 English 2019 - Sell
10 Philippe Coutinho AM 22 Brazilian 2020 - Keep at all costs
33 Jordon Ibe AM 19 English 2020 - Undecided
11 Roberto Firmino FW 23 Brazilian 2020 - Keep
9 Christian Benteke FW 24 Belgian 2019 - Keep, for now
15 Daniel Sturridge FW 25 English 2019 - Keep
28 Danny Ings FW 22 English 2020 - Keep
27 Divock Origi FW 20 Belgian 2019 - Loan out/Keep

Loans

All season loans unless stated otherwise

Danny Ward – Aberdeen - Keep - Killing it on his loan spell
Luis Alberto – Deportivo La Coruna - Sell
Lloyd Jones – Blackpool - ?
Jordan Williams – Swindon Town ?
Kevin Stewart – Swindon Town ?
Andre Wisdom – Norwich City - Keep
Lawrence Vigouroux – Swindon Town - ?
Sheyi Ojo – Wolves - Keep
Harry Wilson – Crewe Alexandra (January 2016) ?
Mario Balotelli – AC Milan - Sell
Lazar Markovic – Fenerbahce - Keep
Joe Maguire – Leyton Orient (September 2016) ?
Ryan McLaughlin – Aberdeen (January 2016) ?
Samed Yesil – FC Luzern - Keep
Sergi Canos – Brentford (January 2016) Keep
Taiwo Awoniyi – FSV Frankfurt ?
Tiago Ilori – Aston Villa - Keep
Allan – Seinajoen Jalkapallokerho (January 2016) ?
Ryan Kent – Coventry (January 2016) ?

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Just copied and pasted the squad bit hard to arrange properly on my mobile. Anyhow im sure it makes sense.

So lads there it is our awesome squad.
Who should we keep?
Who should we sell?
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Postby andy_g » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:20 pm

JC_81 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:15 pm wrote:
I like Sakho, Clyne, Henderson, Coutinho and obviously Sturridge when fit. They are the only 5 id definitely keep.  Some of the others can be worked with like Can, Moreno, Ibe, maybe Milner for another season.



i'm pretty much with you there. but i also wouldn't be in a hurry to get rid of ings and gomez once they're playing again. if sturridge manages to play 10 more games this season he can be on the list of stayers. if he can't then we can ditch him as well.
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Postby Eagle » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:25 pm

Below are the players I think take no benefit from playing academy football so I would consider them “senior” players. I’ve put them in what would most likely be their favoured positions. We do have a whole bunch of players who would prefer to play in the number 10 role  but very few Robben/Ribery type players who like to start wide and then carry the ball towards goal.

I’d be happy enough if we could manage those outgoings and incomings over the next 2 windows. The high number of players we have been bringing in and the fact most of them have not been at a level where they can step into the first 11 has contributed to our underachievement. Buy 5 players in the areas where we need it most I can live with the likes of Moreno, Clyne, Benteke, etc.
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Postby red till i die!! » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:11 pm

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Postby chriserfolg » Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:15 pm

redshade » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:17 pm wrote:Name Pos. Age Nationality Contract Ends
22 Simon Mignolet GK 27 Belgian 2018 - Only Keep as 2nd Choice

34 Adam Bogdan GK 27 Hungarian 2018- OUT

2 Nathaniel Clyne RB 24 English 2020 - KEEP

38 Jon Flanagan RB 22 English 2016 - KEEP

4 Kolo Toure CB 34 Ivorian 2016 - OUT
6 Dejan Lovren CB 26 Croatian 2019 - 2nd Choice

37 Martin Skrtel CB 30 Slovakian 2018 - KEEP
17 Mamadou Sakho CB 25 French 2018 - KEEP

12 Joe Gomez CB 18 English 2020 - KEEP
3 Jose Enrique LB 29 Spanish 2016 - SORRY OUT
18 Alberto Moreno LB 22 Spanish 2019 - KEEP
23 Emre Can CM 21 German 2019 - KEEP
21 Lucas Leiva CM 28 Brazilian 2017 -SORRY OUT
14 Jordan Henderson CM 24 English 2020 - KEEP
7 James Milner CM 29 English 2019 - KEEP
24 Joe Allen CM 25 Welsh 2017 - SORRY OUT

53 Joao Carlos Teixeira CM 22 Portuguese 2016 - ???
46 Jordan Rossiter CM 18 English 2019 - ???
20 Adam Lallana AM 27 English 2019 - Sorry OUT
10 Philippe Coutinho AM 22 Brazilian 2020 - KEEP
33 Jordon Ibe AM 19 English 2020 - KEEP
11 Roberto Firmino FW 23 Brazilian 2020 - KEEP
9 Christian Benteke FW 24 Belgian 2019 - PLAN B KEEP
15 Daniel Sturridge FW 25 English 2019 - KEEP
28 Danny Ings FW 22 English 2020 - KEEP
27 Divock Origi FW 20 Belgian 2019 - SELL

Loans

All season loans unless stated otherwise

Danny Ward – Aberdeen
Luis Alberto – Deportivo La Coruna
Lloyd Jones – Blackpool
Jordan Williams – Swindon Town
Kevin Stewart – Swindon Town
Andre Wisdom – Norwich City
Lawrence Vigouroux – Swindon Town
Sheyi Ojo – Wolves
Harry Wilson – Crewe Alexandra (January 2016)
Mario Balotelli – AC Milan
Lazar Markovic – Fenerbahce
Joe Maguire – Leyton Orient (September 2016)
Ryan McLaughlin – Aberdeen (January 2016)
Samed Yesil – FC Luzern
Sergi Canos – Brentford (January 2016)
Taiwo Awoniyi – FSV Frankfurt
Tiago Ilori – Aston Villa
Allan – Seinajoen Jalkapallokerho (January 2016)
Ryan Kent – Coventry (January 2016)



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Just copied and pasted the squad bit hard to arrange properly on my mobile. Anyhow im sure it makes sense.

So lads there it is our awesome squad.
Who should we keep?
Who should we sell?
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