Milan beatable

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Postby chiari » Wed May 04, 2005 4:55 pm

Juventino wrote:Moggi is a pig, I agree with that!
But come on, is it fair to squalificare Ibra and to show up Cannavaro's tape a week before the game? You have the best team in Italy, but I still think you don't deserve to win this year because of the (sorry, dunno how to say in english) linciagio mediatico.
Since Gianni Agnelli has died, no one respects Juve anymore, we are the Talibans of Italy!

i'm a supporter of Inter Fc no Milan  :bowdown

i know that Milan has it has powers up, but also you
sorry for my english but i write from italy
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Postby Santa » Wed May 04, 2005 5:24 pm

holy cr@p ... we do not get to the CL final and p*iss ourself all over at the sight of Shavchenko and Kaka. C'mon they have to be scared of our midfield and our defense ain't no sieve either. PSV showed that Milan can be rattled and if their players took their chances, they will be going into tonight's game as slight favourite.

We have put out the English & Italian champion in successive rounds so I say bring Milan on ...
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Postby bigmick » Wed May 04, 2005 5:42 pm

stu_the_red wrote:I can tell you the team now... if everyones fit...

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                     Baros
                    Gerrard
Riise         Alonso     Hamann    Luis Garcia
Traore      Hyypia    Carragher    Finnan
                     Dudek

Stu, I've got a notion that Rafa maight spring a surprise or two. How about Gerrard alongside Alonso in the midfield four, with KEWELL in behind the striker. No place in the starting line-up for either Biscan or Hamann. It's only asking Stevie to play the same way he does for England. I think Rafa WILL play this way.
As an alternative, how about he STARTS with Cisse. Needless to say if this scenario comes true they'll have to bring a victim support unit in to cope with Baros's post-traumatic stress syndrome, poor lad.
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Postby Santa » Wed May 04, 2005 5:47 pm

bigmick wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:I can tell you the team now... if everyones fit...

Code: Select all
   
                     Baros
                    Gerrard
Riise         Alonso     Hamann    Luis Garcia
Traore      Hyypia    Carragher    Finnan
                     Dudek

Stu, I've got a notion that Rafa maight spring a surprise or two. How about Gerrard alongside Alonso in the midfield four, with KEWELL in behind the striker. No place in the starting line-up for either Biscan or Hamann. It's only asking Stevie to play the same way he does for England. I think Rafa WILL play this way.
As an alternative, how about he STARTS with Cisse. Needless to say if this scenario comes true they'll have to bring a victim support unit in to cope with Baros's post-traumatic stress syndrome, poor lad.

I'll agree with stu's lineup, it seems to be the strongest starting lineup for us for quite sometime now ...with Kewell and Cisse to come on in the later stage of the game (depending on how the game pen out of course)
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Postby bigmick » Wed May 04, 2005 5:51 pm

Santa wrote:
bigmick wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:I can tell you the team now... if everyones fit...

Code: Select all
   
                     Baros
                    Gerrard
Riise         Alonso     Hamann    Luis Garcia
Traore      Hyypia    Carragher    Finnan
                     Dudek

Stu, I've got a notion that Rafa maight spring a surprise or two. How about Gerrard alongside Alonso in the midfield four, with KEWELL in behind the striker. No place in the starting line-up for either Biscan or Hamann. It's only asking Stevie to play the same way he does for England. I think Rafa WILL play this way.
As an alternative, how about he STARTS with Cisse. Needless to say if this scenario comes true they'll have to bring a victim support unit in to cope with Baros's post-traumatic stress syndrome, poor lad.

I'll agree with stu's lineup, it seems to be the strongest starting lineup for us for quite sometime now ...with Kewell and Cisse to come on in the later stage of the game (depending on how the game pen out of course)

It's defo what form and precedent points to Sants', but given Rafa's liking for the unexpected I'm just trying to second guess the wily old bUgger.
'Sfunny when all the hype was about Mourinho's tactical genius that Rafa totally outthought him in both games. We played against them for 3 hours and they had one shot on target. Hail Rafa the tactical genius.
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Postby coolsobs » Wed May 04, 2005 6:17 pm

we cant get past them using pace as nesta and stam are actually surprisingly fast.
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Postby Santa » Wed May 04, 2005 6:21 pm

bigmick wrote:
Santa wrote:
bigmick wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:I can tell you the team now... if everyones fit...

Code: Select all
   
                     Baros
                    Gerrard
Riise         Alonso     Hamann    Luis Garcia
Traore      Hyypia    Carragher    Finnan
                     Dudek

Stu, I've got a notion that Rafa maight spring a surprise or two. How about Gerrard alongside Alonso in the midfield four, with KEWELL in behind the striker. No place in the starting line-up for either Biscan or Hamann. It's only asking Stevie to play the same way he does for England. I think Rafa WILL play this way.
As an alternative, how about he STARTS with Cisse. Needless to say if this scenario comes true they'll have to bring a victim support unit in to cope with Baros's post-traumatic stress syndrome, poor lad.

I'll agree with stu's lineup, it seems to be the strongest starting lineup for us for quite sometime now ...with Kewell and Cisse to come on in the later stage of the game (depending on how the game pen out of course)

It's defo what form and precedent points to Sants', but given Rafa's liking for the unexpected I'm just trying to second guess the wily old bUgger.
'Sfunny when all the hype was about Mourinho's tactical genius that Rafa totally outthought him in both games. We played against them for 3 hours and they had one shot on target. Hail Rafa the tactical genius.

like I said in another thread...Rafa out-Porto'ed* Maurinho

* borrowed from P.Tomkins
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Postby joependo » Wed May 04, 2005 7:11 pm

Ac milan are noo doub they have won the euro cup,i think it's 7 or 8 i'm not sure but we can just get at them and no doubt they will score.We have really just beat the most expensive team in the world but if we defend aswell as we did yesterday we will not can win the euro cup.But remember don't push to many players as raff yesterday was pure roaring in the 90th minute sayin we don't need that many playes in the box.to score we will have to use our skill on wings and hieght on corners and dida is good but not that good because he's slow gettin down but can still save them.:D :)
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Postby taff » Wed May 04, 2005 8:04 pm

Shevchenko thats what scares me as he can create hiw own goals as well as finish off others.

Made up Hamman is back as we need that extra reassurance at the back and we also need Alonso Gerrad and Garcia to pass intricately into their box as I think the flanks will cancel each other out

We also need to improve the possession and whilst I see us defending more than attacking we have to have our midfielders attacking together when they have the chance.

Hassle them in midfield as we can win that battle
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Postby andy_g » Wed May 04, 2005 10:12 pm

judging by their game tonight against psv they are totally beatable. i think its safe to say that over the two legs psv have been the better team and that milan have lucked out (i also know a lot of people are saying the same about us...). we have absolutely nothing to fear from milan, it looks like - as with many italian teams - they don't like it up 'em.
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Postby el_stinger » Thu May 05, 2005 12:17 am

Just attack their flanks, and hope that UEFA drug test Seedorf, Stam and Gattuso
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Thu May 05, 2005 12:24 am

Yea the aging AC back four really are beginning to creak, but i still sure they have all got one more BIG GAME in them as a collective unit, so we need not get too confident and think its a job already done. But the serious danger in attacking terms is obviously Shevchenko, he is just dangerous and prolific. The worst thing for me is that he is more than capable of dropping off carradonna when he realises what he is all about, and getting the ball going past two and hitting it top corner(with either foot too!). He can score from nywhere, including free kicks.

So we need to be strong in defense, especially either didi/igor and alonso backing up the backline but more importantly for me clinical in attack, bcuz altho their reargaurd is slowing up, they still read the game as well as any1 in world football.
Finally in regard to the 'qoute','MILAN HAS MAINLY A WORKMAN LIKE MIDFIELD, ITS NOT THAT CREATIVE', beleive me AC have an extremely creative midfield, SEEDORF,KAKA,and of course PIRLO.....If u think Alonso can pass, there is only one player better at passing with both feet in the game, and that is Pirlo....He is their keyman, but on the Sly, nobody really notices him, he doesnt really tackle AT All but plays in the Hamaann type of role, and just controls everything...he is WORLD CLASS trust me....However Rafa will be too astute not to know of the Pirlo danger and hopefully he might set igor loose on him to negate his game.

I dont want to sound downbeat or pessimistic, i just want us to keep things in perspective. I mean look at the sucker punch they landed 2nite! But my gut feeling says its us that will win,i prefer Juve to Milan and feel that if we can be Juve(who for me are defensively better - and we scored 2!!) then we can beat the giants of Milan.

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Postby 65-1114725958 » Thu May 05, 2005 12:42 am

What worried me before and during the match tuesday night v chelsea, was how nervous a lot of liverpool  players were.

when the camera scanned across them before the game a lot of them looked very neverous to me, including stevie g.
it showed in a lot of the play too, because we kept panicking and whacking the ball upfield and straight back to chelsea.
it wasnt pretty, but effective.

but we need to not give the ball away so much against milan cause we will get punished for it.

Id play alonso instead of gerrard personally. along with hamann/ biscan, garcia and Riise.

Stevie bottled it last night, as he does in big games, and didnt do that much.
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Postby Santa » Thu May 05, 2005 4:47 am

what load of rubbish...makes me wonder if some of us here actually understand football??
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Postby Santa » Thu May 05, 2005 5:23 am

LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:Yea the aging AC back four really are beginning to creak, but i still sure they have all got one more BIG GAME in them as a collective unit, so we need not get too confident and think its a job already done. But the serious danger in attacking terms is obviously Shevchenko, he is just dangerous and prolific. The worst thing for me is that he is more than capable of dropping off carradonna when he realises what he is all about, and getting the ball going past two and hitting it top corner(with either foot too!). He can score from nywhere, including free kicks.

So we need to be strong in defense, especially either didi/igor and alonso backing up the backline but more importantly for me clinical in attack, bcuz altho their reargaurd is slowing up, they still read the game as well as any1 in world football.
Finally in regard to the 'qoute','MILAN HAS MAINLY A WORKMAN LIKE MIDFIELD< ITS THAT CREATIVE', beleive me AC have an extremely creative midfield, SEEDORF,KAKA,and of course PIRLO.....If u think Alonso can pass, there is only one player better at passing with both feet in the game, and that is Pirlo....He is their keyman, but on the Sly, nobody really notices him, he doesnt really tackle AT All but plays in the Hamaann type of role, and just controls everything...he is WORLD CLASS trust me....However Rafa will be too astute not to know of the Pirlo danger and hopefully he might set igor loose on him to negate his game.

I dont want to sound downbeat or pessimistic, i just want us to keep things in perspective. I mean look at the sucker punch they landed 2nite! But my gut feeling says its us that will win,i prefer Juve to Milan and feel that if we can be Juve(who for me are defensively better - and we scored 2!!) then we can beat the giants of Milan.

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as displayed over the last 2 games, it was claer that PSV is a much better team than Milan. The actual damaged was in the 1st leg when PSV didn't convert any of their many chances, and let Milan sneak in a sucker punch goal late late in the game. I'm deeply dissapointed that the better team didn't get through but a Liverpool - Milan final will be more appealing to the neutral and it shows that Milan is definately beatable. I'm sure yesterday's 3-1 defeat has given Liverpool a lot of confidence going to Istanbul.

On paper, of course Milan should walk over us, but so should Juventus and Chelsea. Don't think that matters in a European Cup final tho   :eyebrow
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