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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:22 am

LFC2007 wrote:
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LFC2007 wrote:We're in turmoil and you try the 'getting one over' angle, it's pathetic.

You're actually happy that we lost because it further enhances your belief that Rafa will leave, and should leave.

Us underperforming is consistent with your desire for Rafa to leave, i.e. we underperform and you come out in fits of happiness 'yipee, now Rafa can go'.

Jesus.........u are such a drama queen....

Oh....The club is in a turmoil....lets blame the owners..whoooo
The world is coming to an end...Lets take the spaceship with tom cruise to jupitar...whooo...

Give me a break. Lets not blame the owners for everysh1t. Hicks has already backed rafa publicly...(i don't give a sh1t if it was genuine or not). So at least he made a effort....So why is the club in a turmoil....

This club will never ever be in a turmoil.... Worst come worst..LFC fans will come up with 500 million to buy this club..and you can be sure i will contribute my share. We have too many passionate fans (note..not rafa fans..but passionate LFC fans for that to happen)....

anyway you are boring me....so i am outta here..(ie....won't bother responding to you today)...

Turmoil, on the pitch, and off the pitch. I didn't say or intimate whatsoever the 'let's blame the owners' point.

I don't really consider you a fan anyway, you're happy when we lose because you have some deep-seated hatred for our manager, who you want out.

One compliments the other.

Damn straight, lad.

I've said a couple of times now - some people aren't thinking of Liverpool, they're simply allowing their dislike of Rafa overtake rational thought.

Sad b*stards that they are. :no
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Postby whylongball? » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:03 am

c'on guys
chill down a little bit
We are still in crisis for sure but the performance is surely acceptable imho despite the late penalty.
The only way to get out is work harder
And not blame Rafa for this. I doubt him but this time was not Rafa's fault
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:07 am

whylongball? wrote:c'on guys
chill down a little bit
We are still in crisis for sure but the performance is surely acceptable imho despite the late penalty.
The only way to get out is work harder
And not blame Rafa for this. I doubt him but this time was not Rafa's fault

Tell that to the players
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Postby red_guy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:35 am

ruskiy playmaker wrote:
whylongball? wrote:c'on guys
chill down a little bit
We are still in crisis for sure but the performance is surely acceptable imho despite the late penalty.
The only way to get out is work harder
And not blame Rafa for this. I doubt him but this time was not Rafa's fault

Tell that to the players

Somehow i agree with you. The players most of em, not all of em...are not playing for the club, they play for themselves. Overpaid :censored:..should be ashamed of themselves.
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Postby Ciggy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:17 am

None of them players are running through brick walls to save Rafa's job and it speaks volumes.

This is not a blip anymore there is something seriously going on behind the scenes

Something has to give this cant go on any longer quite frankly.

I support LFC not G & H, not Rafa Benitez just Liverpool and I have never known sh.it like this happen in my whole life.

The yanks have to go or Rafa under the current circumstances this mess cannot continue.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:30 am

Ciggy wrote:None of them players are running through brick walls to save Rafa's job and it speaks volumes.

This is not a blip anymore there is something seriously going on behind the scenes

Something has to give this cant go on any longer quite frankly.

I support LFC not G & H, not Rafa Benitez just Liverpool and I have never known sh.it like this happen in my whole life.

The yanks have to go or Rafa under the current circumstances this mess cannot continue.

You're right, something drastic has to be done.  This is just unacceptable for a top club.  I support Rafa and want to see him here next season but when this kind of sh!t happens 99% of the time it ends with the manager leaving the club.
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Postby red_guy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:44 am

ruskiy playmaker wrote:
Ciggy wrote:None of them players are running through brick walls to save Rafa's job and it speaks volumes.

This is not a blip anymore there is something seriously going on behind the scenes

Something has to give this cant go on any longer quite frankly.

I support LFC not G & H, not Rafa Benitez just Liverpool and I have never known sh.it like this happen in my whole life.

The yanks have to go or Rafa under the current circumstances this mess cannot continue.

You're right, something drastic has to be done.  This is just unacceptable for a top club.  I support Rafa and want to see him here next season but when this kind of sh!t happens 99% of the time it ends with the manager leaving the club.

Definitely. I've noticed something wrong with the players.... most of em said that they support rafa but at the same time did nothing to help him..for God's sake, the only thing they should do is play well...not playing like schoolboys.
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:57 am

Ciggy wrote:None of them players are running through brick walls to save Rafa's job and it speaks volumes.

This is not a blip anymore there is something seriously going on behind the scenes

Something has to give this cant go on any longer quite frankly.

I support LFC not G & H, not Rafa Benitez just Liverpool and I have never known sh.it like this happen in my whole life.

The yanks have to go or Rafa under the current circumstances this mess cannot continue.

It's clear the problem isn't ONE area of the club. I could blame the players after our bad patch lasted a month or so but when your bad patch lasts for months then the manager has to take responsibility.

Regardless of the board room problems the manager should be able to shield the board room problems from the players. I like Rafa but I am starting to seriously doubt his ability to recover the club from a serious rut. The players aren't playing with any obvious plan which makes me wonder what the hell they're training on.

Defensively we're a shambles, this wasn't the case earlier in the season, the team hasn't changed so something else must. I do not believe that the recent G&H antics can affect a world class team this much. Madrid go through like 4 managers a season and they still win. I have a gut feeling is that Rafa has let this board room battle affect his ability to manage, which worries me more than how it is affecting us in the present.

I give Rafa till end of Feb, if our results continue he will rightly be sacked. What hurts the most is that both Chelsea and Man Utd have gone through board room and/or manager crisis recently and they haven't shown a fraction of the bad from we're displaying.
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Postby Ciggy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:58 am

Never mind playing for Rafa the players arnt even playing for the fans.

Disgrace hang your heads in shame you prima donna b@stards.
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Postby club_Levis » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:31 am

jedwards wrote: :angry: :(

I do not think that Benitez is a top class manager, despite his past cup competitions achievement for LFC over the past four seasons, but he had failed miserably in getting close to the top three clubs in premier league, and I can not see any sign that it will alter this while LFC is still under the management of Benitez, simply because he is not an attacking minded manager, he is a very negative tactician, and he believe in acquiring too many average players in his squad, but regrettably he pays top money for them, and even the players he acquire for free are very average too, the likes of Voronin. His team selection is very lousy, he lacks motivation, unable to develop players with good potential, just take a look at what happened to Sissoko, when he arrived at LFC, he had a lot of potential to be a top class player, but two years under Benitez, he lost his confidence totally, his passing, scoring, and overall game never improved, and Sissoko is one of many players come and gone, Gonzales, Morientes, etc, LFC paid a lot of money for those players, with little exchange in return!!.

We are in decline since last season, where, we ended empty handed, with big margin of points behind league leaders, and this season is even worse, dropping points like hot cakes whether it is at home or away, we could not win any games against the top three, we even can not consolidate the fourth spot, I think it is beyond us now!!!! Benitez has lost the plot totally, from the start of the season, when we lost "Paco", I do not think that Benitez getting the respect of the players anymore, the players moral, confidence, and their sprit is very low, how do you expect some of the good players to respect him and obey his commands, when he selects a very average players and under achievers ahead decent players in squad, he opted to select always Voronin (when he is fit) the useless Kuyt, Aurelio, and the under achiever Kewell, ahead of Crouch, Babel, Alonso, and Leiva on weekly basis, for the sake of his stupid made mark rotation system. He is the only manager of the top six clubs does that, but he failed to claim the first spot, not even the second, by applying his stupid system, it become laughable among football World, it hides no logic behind his clever trick!!!. Totally stupid !!!!

Any top class manager is not judged on his initial successes, but on his ability to maintaining and achieving more successes and acclaim the top price and that is by wining the title, Houllier did the same, won three or four trophies in couple of seasons, and he thought he was God, or rather we the fans made him feel that, but after that he dragged the club down, Benitez is no differ, working very hard on the same path, Both those two foreign managers have dropped LFC standards and turn it to a very med. table club, wasted so much money with a little returns. The LFC should go back and appoint a manager from the old Liverpool players, and get this club to its basic in practising the old Liverpool methods that, and it had brought us successes, and bring back the real passion, and metal of Liverpool Football Club of Old, that our the club is so desperately needs now, because under Houllier and Benitez we have lost our tradition and direction.

Spot on..sadly you will still get some of the fans blaming all this on the Americans..Laughable indeed.Id say thanks for the European Glory Rafa and you can now pack and go.
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Postby DAV » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:44 am

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Postby 66-1112520797 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:28 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
The_Rock wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:We're in turmoil and you try the 'getting one over' angle, it's pathetic.

You're actually happy that we lost because it further enhances your belief that Rafa will leave, and should leave.

Us underperforming is consistent with your desire for Rafa to leave, i.e. we underperform and you come out in fits of happiness 'yipee, now Rafa can go'.

Jesus.........u are such a drama queen....

Oh....The club is in a turmoil....lets blame the owners..whoooo
The world is coming to an end...Lets take the spaceship with tom cruise to jupitar...whooo...

Give me a break. Lets not blame the owners for everysh1t. Hicks has already backed rafa publicly...(i don't give a sh1t if it was genuine or not). So at least he made a effort....So why is the club in a turmoil....

This club will never ever be in a turmoil.... Worst come worst..LFC fans will come up with 500 million to buy this club..and you can be sure i will contribute my share. We have too many passionate fans (note..not rafa fans..but passionate LFC fans for that to happen)....

anyway you are boring me....so i am outta here..(ie....won't bother responding to you today)...

Turmoil, on the pitch, and off the pitch. I didn't say or intimate whatsoever the 'let's blame the owners' point.

I don't really consider you a fan anyway, you're happy when we lose because you have some deep-seated hatred for our manager, who you want out.

One compliments the other.

Damn straight, lad.

I've said a couple of times now - some people aren't thinking of Liverpool, they're simply allowing their dislike of Rafa overtake rational thought.

Sad b*stards that they are. :no

IF Rafa leaves maybe Lando can f.uck off on follow him to his next club.

The gay kunt obviously loves Rafa more than the club, at the end of the day. Rafa is loaded he wont be short of money or work, so dont worry about him, their will be much more worrying things that he'd be leaving behind at the club.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:31 am

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Lando_Griffin wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
The_Rock wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:We're in turmoil and you try the 'getting one over' angle, it's pathetic.

You're actually happy that we lost because it further enhances your belief that Rafa will leave, and should leave.

Us underperforming is consistent with your desire for Rafa to leave, i.e. we underperform and you come out in fits of happiness 'yipee, now Rafa can go'.

Jesus.........u are such a drama queen....

Oh....The club is in a turmoil....lets blame the owners..whoooo
The world is coming to an end...Lets take the spaceship with tom cruise to jupitar...whooo...

Give me a break. Lets not blame the owners for everysh1t. Hicks has already backed rafa publicly...(i don't give a sh1t if it was genuine or not). So at least he made a effort....So why is the club in a turmoil....

This club will never ever be in a turmoil.... Worst come worst..LFC fans will come up with 500 million to buy this club..and you can be sure i will contribute my share. We have too many passionate fans (note..not rafa fans..but passionate LFC fans for that to happen)....

anyway you are boring me....so i am outta here..(ie....won't bother responding to you today)...

Turmoil, on the pitch, and off the pitch. I didn't say or intimate whatsoever the 'let's blame the owners' point.

I don't really consider you a fan anyway, you're happy when we lose because you have some deep-seated hatred for our manager, who you want out.

One compliments the other.

Damn straight, lad.

I've said a couple of times now - some people aren't thinking of Liverpool, they're simply allowing their dislike of Rafa overtake rational thought.

Sad b*stards that they are. :no

IF Rafa leaves maybe Lando can f.uck off on follow him to his next club.

The gay kunt obviously loves Rafa more than the club, at the end of the day. Rafa is loaded he wont be short of money or work, so dont worry about him, their will be much more worrying things that he'd be leaving behind at the club.

Why did you have to bring Kuyt into it ?  :D
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Postby redtrader74 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:37 am

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Postby Ciggy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:39 am

s@int wrote:Why did you have to bring Kuyt into it ?  :D

God help Kuyt I really feel sorry for the fella honestly, he would be better off going back to Feyenoord.
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