I take my life in my hands - Should rafa go?

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I take my life in my hands - Should rafa go!

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Postby Homebooby » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:24 am

peewee wrote:why do people keep referring to this as a blip, three years is a hell of a long blip

I am catching your comments a lot as I come in from big nights out...but 3 years of hell?

Seriously?
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Postby Kharhaz » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:30 am

Homebooby wrote:
peewee wrote:why do people keep referring to this as a blip, three years is a hell of a long blip

I am catching your comments a lot as I come in from big nights out...but 3 years of hell?

Seriously?

That was 2 nights ago....or are you just looking for his comments?
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:21 am

Kharhaz wrote:
Homebooby wrote:
peewee wrote:why do people keep referring to this as a blip, three years is a hell of a long blip

I am catching your comments a lot as I come in from big nights out...but 3 years of hell?

Seriously?

That was 2 nights ago....or are you just looking for his comments?

he is obviously commenting without reading the rest of the thread where i give an explanation for the comment
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Postby maguskwt » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:52 am

Ciggy wrote:The players are getting off lightly with critism I feel also, if they respect Rafa and dont want him to walk then its about time they started playing for him.

Good kick up the @rse wouldnt go a miss with quite a few of them.
Have they suddenly forgotten how to make a simple 5 yard pass?
Have they suddenly forgotten everything they have learned?
Have they suddenly forgotten how to score a bloody goal?

No.

Its about time they started remembering these things.

They would kick up a fuss if their wages wernt in the bank on time.
Better pull their fingers out their @rses before they are shipped off to another club and the only way is down once you leave Liverpool F.C.
Dont forget it.

:nod... completely agree

on a different note... one of the reasons we're struggling is that our squad is obviously not as deep or as filled with quality as some people were making it out to be in the beginning of the season...injuries to alonso, agger and the off form of gerrard is all it took for mediocre performances...furthermore without torres we're toothless in front...

I think that rafa wasn't able to strenghthen the squad as much as he liked... the failure by us to sign malouda and heinze played a very important role... and somehow I feel that this is not only rafa's fault... rick parry just seems a bit too laid back for me...and I wonder whether those two have a good working relationship...
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:38 am

Ciggy wrote:The players are getting off lightly with critism I feel also, if they respect Rafa and dont want him to walk then its about time they started playing for him.

Good kick up the @rse wouldnt go a miss with quite a few of them.
Have they suddenly forgotten how to make a simple 5 yard pass?
Have they suddenly forgotten everything they have learned?
Have they suddenly forgotten how to score a bloody goal?

No.

Its about time they started remembering these things.

They would kick up a fuss if their wages wernt in the bank on time.
Better pull their fingers out their @rses before they are shipped off to another club and the only way is down once you leave Liverpool F.C.
Dont forget it.

I agree too Ciggy Milf.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:59 pm

Bamaga man wrote:
Ciggy wrote:The players are getting off lightly with critism I feel also, if they respect Rafa and dont want him to walk then its about time they started playing for him.

Good kick up the @rse wouldnt go a miss with quite a few of them.
Have they suddenly forgotten how to make a simple 5 yard pass?
Have they suddenly forgotten everything they have learned?
Have they suddenly forgotten how to score a bloody goal?

No.

Its about time they started remembering these things.

They would kick up a fuss if their wages wernt in the bank on time.
Better pull their fingers out their @rses before they are shipped off to another club and the only way is down once you leave Liverpool F.C.
Dont forget it.

I agree too Ciggy Milf.

At least we can agree on something . . .
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Postby heimdall » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:09 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
Ciggy wrote:The players are getting off lightly with critism I feel also, if they respect Rafa and dont want him to walk then its about time they started playing for him.

Good kick up the @rse wouldnt go a miss with quite a few of them.
Have they suddenly forgotten how to make a simple 5 yard pass?
Have they suddenly forgotten everything they have learned?
Have they suddenly forgotten how to score a bloody goal?

No.

Its about time they started remembering these things.

They would kick up a fuss if their wages wernt in the bank on time.
Better pull their fingers out their @rses before they are shipped off to another club and the only way is down once you leave Liverpool F.C.
Dont forget it.

I agree too Ciggy Milf.

At least we can agree on something . . .

Yes but then Rafa needs to start doing the kicking, why isn't he able to get the lads fired up, that is one of the major things that worries me about him, and I think that is maybe where we miss Paco.

And look at today Manure and the Chavs having massive wins. We HAVE to win tomorrow otherwise I really think the pressure on Rafa  will escalate and escalate.
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Postby NANNY RED » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:15 pm

Kharhaz wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
redtrader74 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
redtrader74 wrote:
If Rafa cannot deliver the league to Anfield, then he has to go. I’m not suggesting he is sacked at the end of this season or the next season either, but if he cannot bring this club into contention in the next few seasons, then he has to go.


Everyone knows that.

There are idiots suggesting we get rid now.

Yes like the Sky news reporters camped outside Anfield now waiting for something big to break.

Tw@ts.

The media may have started the witch hunt but stupid 'fans' will fan the flames. We need to keep quiet for a while and not get involved in phone ins asking for Rafas dismissal, it does the the football club a disservice and even those who want him to leave should be able to see that it would serve no purpose to dismiss Rafa mid-season.

Of the six people on here that actually go to any matches well lets makes sure we drown out any booing, we have a reputation of dignity, assess the managers position at the end of the season.

Unfortunatly we have too many fckwits that consider themselves LFC supporters.

They'll be the first to start crying if rafa's goes , because we'll be well and truly fecked then, i can promise you that.

Spot on Igor
I for one will be gutted and as redtrader has said some fans need to stop ringing all these phone inns asking for Rafas head we have never been a club to air our dirty washing in public and we shouldnt start now . Rafa in 3 years has brought the glory days back to Anfield something which we were starved of for so long . I have witnessed all the old days of europe and league championships and and as far as im concerned there is no better manager around today to bring them back again.

The way some people are posting on here ie its all gone wrong since Pako left you would think he was our :censored: manager and Rafa was his assistant maybe some think it would have been better if he stayed and Rafa left. He was a fitness coach FFS. Ok they were together for 11 years wouldnt you go on a downer if you split up from you missis or girlfriend (and no im not suggesting anything else) but they ate and drank football together of course Rafa needs time to get used to life without his right hand. Hes already said we are the best fans in the world and hes been loyal to us turning down a move back to Spain. So weres our :censored: loyalty now to him alls some fans want to do is slag him off . Dont forget what Rafa has done for this club. Do you honestly believe we would have the likes of Alonso and Torres hear if it wasnt for him. NO so come on reds lets get behind our manager a watch him make us smile again :)  :)

Starting with Arsenal. A victory over them and everything is back on track and better than previous seasons with regards to league form. Arsenal are playing well but like ive said before, whenever were on a downer we always seem to beat Arsenal to get us back on the up !

Hope your right
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Postby Wilhelmsson » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:21 pm

maguskwt wrote:on a different note... one of the reasons we're struggling is that our squad is obviously not as deep or as filled with quality as some people were making it out to be in the beginning of the season...injuries to alonso, agger and the off form of gerrard is all it took for mediocre performances...furthermore without torres we're toothless in front...

I think that rafa wasn't able to strenghthen the squad as much as he liked... the failure by us to sign malouda and heinze played a very important role... and somehow I feel that this is not only rafa's fault... rick parry just seems a bit too laid back for me...and I wonder whether those two have a good working relationship...

I beg to differ, there is more enough than quality football wise in the team to win accolades, it would seem mentally that there is cause for concern for whatever reasons. Rafa has been able to add depth to his squad and he has built a squad more than capable of at least mounting a stern challenge for silverware.

There’s also enough quality within the squad to override any possible set backs such as the absence of Agger, Alonso or Torres. Rafa doesn’t seem to be making the most out of what he has and combine that with the player’s inability to play football at the moment are two recipes for disaster.

Rafa was able to strengthen in the summer and if he hasn’t strengthened as much as he would have liked then he only has himself to blame. He was given a sizeable budget in which to work from and he had plenty of time to capture the signatures of the player’s he wanted.

If he failed to sign the players in which he wanted then that’s a failing on his, Rick’s part and anyone else involved in that side of the clubs running.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:46 pm

heimdall wrote:And look at today Manure and the Chavs having massive wins. We HAVE to win tomorrow otherwise I really think the pressure on Rafa  will escalate and escalate.

Pressure from Internet warriors like you and bell ends in the media.

Match going Liverpool fans are right behind the gaffer, and we will let EVERYONE know this tomorrow afternoon.
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Postby Rafa D » Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:54 pm

Too true.

Because of the fame and fortune of the red men, we have 3 different sets of "fans".

The proper lot realise Rafa's the most vital cog in the machine right now, and he is not going anywhere.
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Postby NANNY RED » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:30 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
heimdall wrote:And look at today Manure and the Chavs having massive wins. We HAVE to win tomorrow otherwise I really think the pressure on Rafa  will escalate and escalate.

Pressure from Internet warriors like you and bell ends in the media.

Match going Liverpool fans are right behind the gaffer, and we will let EVERYONE know this tomorrow afternoon.

Spot on Leon

All these people calling for Rafas head most of them dont even know what the inside of Anfield Looks like. Ive not heard one comment from any of my mates regarding change of manager and  weve seen some great managers down the years .

Anfield will be Buzzing with Rafa songs tomorrow wait and see
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Postby roberto green » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:53 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
heimdall wrote:And look at today Manure and the Chavs having massive wins. We HAVE to win tomorrow otherwise I really think the pressure on Rafa  will escalate and escalate.

Pressure from Internet warriors like you and bell ends in the media.

Match going Liverpool fans are right behind the gaffer, and we will let EVERYONE know this tomorrow afternoon.

Spot on Leon

All these people calling for Rafas head most of them dont even know what the inside of Anfield Looks like. Ive not heard one comment from any of my mates regarding change of manager and  weve seen some great managers down the years .

Anfield will be Buzzing with Rafa songs tomorrow wait and see

the People calling for Raf's head are not really intelligent Liverpool fans,ok im not happy at the moment but you only have to look at what Rafa has brought to the club and how much he had to do when he took over.

It is a disgrace that anyone can even call for his head!!
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Postby Kharhaz » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:00 pm

I can understand the frustration but the ones calling for his head are not looking at the bigger picture. The players have to perform and none of them have been. If rafas tactics are upsetting the players then why are they here? rafas the manager who deals with contracts, selection, who plays and who doesnt thats his job. The players job is to follow what the manager says and play to his contract. So many people are putting pressure solely on rafa when it should spread amongst everybody, players especially.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:00 pm

Rafa is vital to Lfc and he's dragged us out of the stagnation of the Houllier era. Those who are questioning his future are nothing more than plastics and if they don't like it, they can go back to supporting Chavski or Arsenal or whoever else they did prior to our CL win.
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