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Postby zarababe » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:10 pm

I am utterly shocked and devestated by these revelations today :angry: The heart and soul of LFC is being ripped out be these so-called 'custodians'.. This club of ours don't feel the same anymore - bunch of back-stabbing bas.tardos.. I'll fu.kin kill'em - how dare these shi.tters behave like this - beleaguring our manager further and making us as bad a laffing stock as them Barcodes :angry:

I have not been so upset - as I have today - If Rafa leaves who can blame him after this fu.ckin fiasco - reminds me of how Ranieri was treated before the arrival of Maureen - disgraceful.

I'll fuc.kin kill'em - get these 'destroyers' outta of our club NOW
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Postby Sabre » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:10 pm

I think Manhattan is right when he defends that the american flag must not be burnt. Let's not forget that flag represents many Liverpool fans, some of which post in this forum. I think there are other ways to support the current manager and protest against the owners rather than that one.
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:13 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:Secondly, any Liverpool fan who would burn the US flag simply because they disagree with the club owners lacks intelligence and foresight.

MP our fans are fuckin livid at the moment if I was G & H I wouldnt be coming to Anfield anytime in the near future.

LFC TV phone in tonight and the legends phone in has made that very clear indeed Granada reports, SSN, people on the streets of Liverpool see Rafa as one of our own and in them circumstances theres nothing down for G & H they might aswell just sell if they know whats good for them, they will be sorry that they ever bought the club.

There will be more than American flags being burnt over this believe me.
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Postby zarababe » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:18 pm

Sabre wrote:I think Manhattan is right when he defends that the american flag must not be burnt. Let's not forget that flag represents many Liverpool fans, some of which post in this forum. I think there are other ways to support the current manager and protest against the owners rather than that one.

They'll be no burning of flags - if these f.uckers get out - they will if they know what is good for them  :angry: Thisis the lowest of the low what they have done to our Boss  :angry:
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:21 pm

Torres 2007 wrote:Sam Allardyce?

This aint a Liverpool supporter.

This kunt needs banning for that.
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:29 pm

MP our fans are :censored: livid at the moment if I was G & H I wouldnt be coming to Anfield anytime in the near future.


That sounds like a threat.

And I laugh at the hypocrisy. When Man U fans were doing that, they were mocked and rightly criticised.


LFC TV phone in tonight and the legends phone in has made that very clear indeed Granada reports, SSN, people on the streets of Liverpool see Rafa as one of our own and in them circumstances theres nothing down for G & H they might aswell just sell if they know whats good for them, they will be sorry that they ever bought the club.


Rafa is not one of anyone's own. He's a guy hired to do a job.

There will be more than American flags being burnt over this believe me.


Such as what?

Explain it to me.
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Postby zarababe » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:32 pm

In the Guardian:  Lawrence DoneganJanuary 14, 2008

Liverpool's owners find themselves lost in translation

Tom Hicks and George Gillett's treatment of Rafa Benítez shows they have failed to understand how football differs from North American sports

Great Britain and the United States; two nations divided by an ocean and a wildly differing view of the manager's place in the hierarchy of a sports team or, if you prefer, sports franchise.

Over here, team managers enjoy great power and influence for as long as they occupy the office. The great ones become legends. They have stands named after them and gates erected in their honour; Shankley, Paisley, Busby, Stein and, when he retires no doubt, Ferguson.

It's different in the world of North American baseball, where the team manager is the guy who picks the team, executes the match-day tactics and, if he has a strong personality or a death wish, isn't scared to challenge the club's general manager or owners - aka. the real bosses - about the club's signing policies. Nothing more. In baseball, the great managers are no longer exalted, they are treated like day workers, to be summarily dismissed at the owner's whim, as Joe Torre, who brought great success to the New York Yankees, discovered to his cost at the end of the 2007 Major League Baseball season.

Once upon a time British football fans could afford to ignore this particular quirk of the American sports world. No longer. The recent influx of American money in British football has meant an influx of American attitudes, most notably at Liverpool, which has now been owned by the American pair of Tom Hicks and George Gillett for nine months.

Most people who have followed the Peyton Place saga that is modern day Anfield have been shocked at the way Hicks, in particular, has publicly treated Rafael Benítez. But those who know a little about baseball will recognise exactly what has been going on - Benítez, a manager who brought a Champions League trophy to Liverpool and who has both the potential and desire to follow Shankley and Paisley into the club's lexicon, is being treated with the same respect accorded to a baseball team manager, which is to say "very little".

So it is that Hicks can approach Jürgen Klinsmann about the Liverpool job while Benítez still occupies the office. "We attempted to negotiate an option, as an insurance policy, to have him become manager if Rafa left for Real Madrid or other clubs that were rumoured in the UK press, or in case our communication spiralled out of control for some reason," Liverpool's co-owner told today's Liverpool Echo.

Hicks's "reign" at Anfield has been notable mostly for the obfuscations of his slick PR machine so it would be remiss not to congratulate him for his straightforwardness on this occasion. But in his honesty he also reveals his ignorance of how football works in this country and his failure to realise the most successful clubs are those that place the greatest emphasis on continuity and loyalty. Liverpool fans can only hope that the rumours are true and that he and his cohort sell up and leave town before too much damage is done.
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:33 pm

MP it sounds like your more feckin concerned over an arl sh!tty picture of a flag getting burned, than you do about your American counterparts wanting to bring Jurgen fuckin Klingon in.

Man U fans couldnt believe how stupid and naive we where on accepting these two clown with open arms.

What they have done to Rafa is unforgivable.
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Postby zarababe » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:33 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:[

Rafa is not one of anyone's own. He's a guy hired to do a job.

Read the article I've just posted from the Guardian - it's precisely because of this attitude that we are in the mess we are now !
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Postby Bad Bob » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:34 pm

FFS people, tensions are running high enough tonight without some protracted debate about flag burning.  Leave it and get back to discussing that sh!tehouse statement Hicks released today. :no
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:37 pm

MP it sounds like your more feckin concerned over an arl sh!tty picture of a flag getting burned, than you do about your American counterparts wanting to bring Jurgen :censored: Klingon in.

What they have done to Rafa is unforgivable.


Why?

I'm a Liverpool fan. Not a Rafapool fan.

If the guy succeeds then that's great. But if he doesn't, questions have to be asked.

I've already said that Klinsmann would have been the wrong person for the job.

But we're far off the pace in the Prem, and once again our hopes are tied to the CL and fourth-place.

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Postby hello_red » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:39 pm

Madness!

Calmed down since my previous post on this thread.

Just watched This Is Anfield and they had some very good points.

Although I am :censored: off and very hurt as a fan im going to leave this thread and story alone. Any newspaper/web artcules about this particualr story I shall be avoiding.

I doubt anything major will happen like management change or owner change.

This hasd abeen a sad day for Liverpool FC and its fans.

But im moving on as of now.

Its all :censored: at the end of day.
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Postby Dundalk » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:41 pm

hello_red wrote:Just watched This Is Anfield and they had some very good points.

Like what, I didnt see it.

Who was on?
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:44 pm

Dundalk wrote:
hello_red wrote:Just watched This Is Anfield and they had some very good points.

Like what, I didnt see it.

Who was on?

Some very angry and upset people ringing up.

Brilliant one caller Parry the scarlett pimpernell, great hearing Parry getting slated :D
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Postby tubby » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:45 pm

I just dont understand how he can say something like that in public. Surley Rick Parry should have said something to him. Hes just a puppet himself. Whats happening to this club.
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