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s@int you mentioned diego, saw him against real madrid and he looked truely awesome. by far the player who stood out the most for me. how much do u know about him, would he be good enough for us
if we were to buy another player to fill this gap in the team surely one of our centre mids or strikers would have to leave?

Watched him a few times for Santos when he was awesome, never really seen him since, but read that he had got his form back since moving to Germany. Maybe someone who watches European games more could update us.

I think it would mean the end for Crouch or Kuyt probably.

[bigmick]

I don't know about Diego, not surprisingly I've never even heard of the bloke never mind seen him play. This thing about a creative second striker though is an interesting point, and I know Saint has been on about it for a while.

I do know it's only early... but it would appear that we seem to have one exceptional forward and three who are pretty OK, but do have similar shortcomings in their respective games. The obvious shortcomings in no particular order are that a) they don't appear to have the guile/will to feed Torres in on goal, b) none of them currently carry a consistent goal threat, and c) they are all three devoid of any pace whatsoever. Now unless we are harbouring thoughts of playing Babel up top, (and it wouldn't appear so given the selections to date) you would be forgiven for thinking that were Torres to get injured, we'd be in the sh!te somewhat.

Given all this, might it be a thought in the the managers head to gamble a little in the next window and go for a striker who is different to what we already have? I guess it would probably mean trading in either Kuyt or Crouch (with Crouch being the more likely based on newspaper gossip) and taking a bit of a punt. If we were still there or there abouts at Christmas (and I expect we will be) it may be time to do something which would give us that added push. I can't think of any sensible options based over here which would cost about the same as we'd get for Crouch (8-10 million) but it might be worth looking at. Usually, I would advocate keeping the same squad throughout the season but this may just be a special circumstance.

[stmichael]

i was making the point the other day that kuyt would be a lot more prolific if he played right up top with a second striker in behind him. it's no coincidence to me that kuyt only scored 3 of his 12 league goals last season after garcia got injured.

[Owzat]

I'd say without Torres we lack cutting edge. Hasn't he started three of the last five in which we scored ELEVEN and he scored FIVE, the two he didn't start we failed to score - nuff said

[bigmick]

I'd say without Torres we lack cutting edge. Hasn't he started three of the last five in which we scored ELEVEN and he scored FIVE, the two he didn't start we failed to score - nuff said

It would appear to be the case mate, although despite the fact that he looks about good enough to be sold back to QPR at the moment, I haven't quite given up totally on Crouch yet. He is obviously much better than he is currently showing and hopefully he can find something soon.

[Owzat]

The other strikers seem no more capable of scoring than last season, did Crouch actually do anything last night?

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I'd say without Torres we lack cutting edge. Hasn't he started three of the last five in which we scored ELEVEN and he scored FIVE, the two he didn't start we failed to score - nuff said

I'm a bit disappointed in you mate, I thought you might have projected his games and goals over a whole season. Taking a stab in the dark I would think he would break or be close to Dixie Deans record if he keeps that rate up. 

[Owzat]

I'd say without Torres we lack cutting edge. Hasn't he started three of the last five in which we scored ELEVEN and he scored FIVE, the two he didn't start we failed to score - nuff said

I'm a bit disappointed in you mate, I thought you might have projected his games and goals over a whole season. Taking a stab in the dark I would think he would break or be close to Dixie Deans record if he keeps that rate up. 

If he plays Reading reserves and Derby every game I think he'll score 50 or 100 games in a season. Let's not get carried away, while it is five in five for him that is balanced by the quality of the defences he's scored against. He didn't exactly look convincing against Porto, albeit he had little supply. Even Crouch has a hat-trick against Arsenal to his name, more creditable than Torres'

[account deleted by request]

I'd say without Torres we lack cutting edge. Hasn't he started three of the last five in which we scored ELEVEN and he scored FIVE, the two he didn't start we failed to score - nuff said

I'm a bit disappointed in you mate, I thought you might have projected his games and goals over a whole season. Taking a stab in the dark I would think he would break or be close to Dixie Deans record if he keeps that rate up. 

If he plays Reading reserves and Derby every game I think he'll score 50 or 100 games in a season. Let's not get carried away, while it is five in five for him that is balanced by the quality of the defences he's scored against. He didn't exactly look convincing against Porto, albeit he had little supply. Even Crouch has a hat-trick against Arsenal to his name, more creditable than Torres'

I'm glad now I didn't bother working it out   

[Owzat]

Let him set his sights on 25 league goals, might as well aim high. Might struggle as he might not even get 25 starts

[ivor_the_injun]

I think the Torres/Crouch partnership up top gives us far more scope for creativity than any other. If we stayed clear of the "lump it up to the big man" approach, those two could do some serious damage, not just in terms of goals themselves, but also in terms of bringing the midfield into the game from a goalscoring point of view.

Crouch hasn't exactly exploded this season, but I can certainly see Torres bringing the best out of him in the long run.

[puroresu]

diego is a v good player. watched him v stuttgart last weekend for bremen.  he was fantastic in a 4-1 win. i do think its a role we need 2 fill.  I really like  ibrahomivic.  gets  stick but is an awesome footballer.  last season was great and has started this season in superb form.  riquelme is a real luxury player but would love 2 see him in the red shirt.  his form last year at boca was superb.  really was differrent class.

[AB's Red Army]

diego is a v good player. watched him v stuttgart last weekend for bremen.  he was fantastic in a 4-1 win. i do think its a role we need 2 fill.  I really like  ibrahomivic.  gets  stick but is an awesome footballer.  last season was great and has started this season in superb form.  riquelme is a real luxury player but would love 2 see him in the red shirt.  his form last year at boca was superb.  really was differrent class.

Diego is a good shout.

If he continues to grow and mature as a player, he will be one of the best in the world. I think he needs to have a similar season to that of last season and move to a bigger club, and prove himself there.

But he's a gifted little player. I wouldn't mind if we were to sign him, I think it would be a fantastic acquisition and a realistic one at that as well.

Bremen are struggling so far, and I think he'll be off in the summer or perhaps in January if there is a tempting offer.

Riquelme, is a brilliant player but he's far too lazy. When you look at the ability he has, you have to wonder to why he's not at a big club in Europe. The answer is quite simple, no team is willing to reconstruct their entire midfield and team in general in order to suit his strengths and weaknesses.

[Ace Ventura]

I think the Torres/Crouch partnership up top gives us far more scope for creativity than any other. If we stayed clear of the "lump it up to the big man" approach, those two could do some serious damage, not just in terms of goals themselves, but also in terms of bringing the midfield into the game from a goalscoring point of view.

Crouch hasn't exactly exploded this season, but I can certainly see Torres bringing the best out of him in the long run.

Agree with that mate, thats the partnership that i would like to see...and for the reasons you mentioned.
Crouch's form will pick up if he plays a few games alongside Torres, he hasnt become a bad player over night and as some have suggested it may be a bit of a hangover after being dropped from the Champions league final that has severley dented his confidence and made him question whether he is wanted by the club.

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Aguero helps Atletico Madrid fans forget Torres
tribalfooball.com - September 27, 2007

Sergio Aguero was delighted with his goal for Atletico Madrid in last night's 2-0 win at Athletic Bilbao.

The young Argentina international is fast emerging as the player to succeed Liverpool's Fernando Torres as the favourite of Atletico fans and he was a bright point in a disappointing performance last night.

Aguero said: "It is true that San Mames has been good for me and hopefully I can continue this form. The team was happy with this victory and the three points.

"I had a strong blow to the ankle, but it was important to continue playing. We deserved the triumph. I do not believe that I'll have problems playing this Sunday against Osasuna.

"I am well physically because in the U20 World Cup I played several consecutive games and that helped cover my lack of preseason."

Bilbao coach Joaquin Caparros said of Aguero: "He is tremendous. I have followed him a lot since he was in Argentina. He can be what he wants. He is strong and he has everything."

Atletico boss Javier Aguirre also said: "God has given him a special talent. He was the difference

Quite a few of us wanted Aguero to come to liverpool before we signed Kuyt , he looked a great player in the making, it now looks as if he's starting to show it. He got good reviews off Badbob in the under 20's world cup in Canada as well.