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Postby Lando_Griffin » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:22 pm

Owzat wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Now let's look at the stats from '07-'08 regarding Man Utd's fixtures against Man City:

Man Utd: Won: 0 Drawn: 0 Lost: 2.

Of f*cking dear. They're obviously the worst side in the entire World...

Statistics can prove or disprove virtually anything.

Yeah that's right, just compare TWO games to 11 and say it's like for like  ??? Statistics used in a sensible way show trends, statistics used by idiots in an idiotic way you've just demonstrated.

Let's just reflect on that for a moment, shall we?

You've called me an idiot here, for using you own weapon against you. Are you seeing the flaw yet? :oops:

To then attempt to condescend to me, when you've even failed to make sense...? :no :blush:

Answer me this: If statistics are so accurate, and are the be-all and end-all, why then are you not a multi-millionaire?
Surely such a fool-proof system would provide limitless wins at Labrokes?

I tell you what - prove me wrong. Bring me round to your way of thinking. Use all the stats you can muster, and predict the scores of the next 5 matches. If you get them all right, I'll bend over and let you slip your bookies' pencil up my a*se, whilst I simultaneously type about how great you are on here.

If you get them wrong, you have to stop posting the f*cking silly things.

Is it a deal?  :eyebrow
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Postby aCe' » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:30 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Owzat wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Now let's look at the stats from '07-'08 regarding Man Utd's fixtures against Man City:

Man Utd: Won: 0 Drawn: 0 Lost: 2.

Of f*cking dear. They're obviously the worst side in the entire World...

Statistics can prove or disprove virtually anything.

Yeah that's right, just compare TWO games to 11 and say it's like for like  ??? Statistics used in a sensible way show trends, statistics used by idiots in an idiotic way you've just demonstrated.

Let's just reflect on that for a moment, shall we?

You've called me an idiot here, for using you own weapon against you. Are you seeing the flaw yet? :oops:

To then attempt to condescend to me, when you've even failed to make sense...? :no :blush:

Answer me this: If statistics are so accurate, and are the be-all and end-all, why then are you not a multi-millionaire?
Surely such a fool-proof system would provide limitless wins at Labrokes?

I tell you what - prove me wrong. Bring me round to your way of thinking. Use all the stats you can muster, and predict the scores of the next 5 matches. If you get them all right, I'll bend over and let you slip your bookies' pencil up my a*se, whilst I simultaneously type about how great you are on here.

If you get them wrong, you have to stop posting the f*cking silly things.

Is it a deal?  :eyebrow

haha...
i bet you look every bit as ridiculous as you sound !
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Postby LegBarnes » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:58 am

I am bored with topics about being bored with Rafa.  :D
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Postby LegBarnes » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:02 am

aCe' wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
Owzat wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Now let's look at the stats from '07-'08 regarding Man Utd's fixtures against Man City:

Man Utd: Won: 0 Drawn: 0 Lost: 2.

Of f*cking dear. They're obviously the worst side in the entire World...

Statistics can prove or disprove virtually anything.

Yeah that's right, just compare TWO games to 11 and say it's like for like  ??? Statistics used in a sensible way show trends, statistics used by idiots in an idiotic way you've just demonstrated.

Let's just reflect on that for a moment, shall we?

You've called me an idiot here, for using you own weapon against you. Are you seeing the flaw yet? :oops:

To then attempt to condescend to me, when you've even failed to make sense...? :no :blush:

Answer me this: If statistics are so accurate, and are the be-all and end-all, why then are you not a multi-millionaire?
Surely such a fool-proof system would provide limitless wins at Labrokes?

I tell you what - prove me wrong. Bring me round to your way of thinking. Use all the stats you can muster, and predict the scores of the next 5 matches. If you get them all right, I'll bend over and let you slip your bookies' pencil up my a*se, whilst I simultaneously type about how great you are on here.

If you get them wrong, you have to stop posting the f*cking silly things.

Is it a deal? 

haha...
i bet you look every bit as ridiculous as you sound !



As to his point he is right ewwww did I just say lando is right I need help.  :laugh:
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Postby babu » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:33 am

LegBarnes wrote:EDITED

that's well out of line.
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:31 am

aCe' wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
Owzat wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Now let's look at the stats from '07-'08 regarding Man Utd's fixtures against Man City:

Man Utd: Won: 0 Drawn: 0 Lost: 2.

Of f*cking dear. They're obviously the worst side in the entire World...

Statistics can prove or disprove virtually anything.

Yeah that's right, just compare TWO games to 11 and say it's like for like  ??? Statistics used in a sensible way show trends, statistics used by idiots in an idiotic way you've just demonstrated.

Let's just reflect on that for a moment, shall we?

You've called me an idiot here, for using you own weapon against you. Are you seeing the flaw yet? :oops:

To then attempt to condescend to me, when you've even failed to make sense...? :no :blush:

Answer me this: If statistics are so accurate, and are the be-all and end-all, why then are you not a multi-millionaire?
Surely such a fool-proof system would provide limitless wins at Labrokes?

I tell you what - prove me wrong. Bring me round to your way of thinking. Use all the stats you can muster, and predict the scores of the next 5 matches. If you get them all right, I'll bend over and let you slip your bookies' pencil up my a*se, whilst I simultaneously type about how great you are on here.

If you get them wrong, you have to stop posting the f*cking silly things.

Is it a deal?  :eyebrow

haha...
i bet you look every bit as ridiculous as you sound !

then take up his challenge and prove him wrong...
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:09 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Owzat wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Now let's look at the stats from '07-'08 regarding Man Utd's fixtures against Man City:

Man Utd: Won: 0 Drawn: 0 Lost: 2.

Of f*cking dear. They're obviously the worst side in the entire World...

Statistics can prove or disprove virtually anything.

Yeah that's right, just compare TWO games to 11 and say it's like for like  ??? Statistics used in a sensible way show trends, statistics used by idiots in an idiotic way you've just demonstrated.

Let's just reflect on that for a moment, shall we?

You've called me an idiot here, for using you own weapon against you. Are you seeing the flaw yet? :oops:

To then attempt to condescend to me, when you've even failed to make sense...? :no :blush:

Answer me this: If statistics are so accurate, and are the be-all and end-all, why then are you not a multi-millionaire?
Surely such a fool-proof system would provide limitless wins at Labrokes?

I tell you what - prove me wrong. Bring me round to your way of thinking. Use all the stats you can muster, and predict the scores of the next 5 matches. If you get them all right, I'll bend over and let you slip your bookies' pencil up my a*se, whilst I simultaneously type about how great you are on here.

If you get them wrong, you have to stop posting the f*cking silly things.

Is it a deal?  :eyebrow

:laugh:

My monies on Lando winnin' this one.    :D
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:13 pm

It's a dead cert Woof.
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Postby LegBarnes » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:30 pm

babu wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:EDITED

that's well out of line.

0ut of line i was joking with lando and you go and edit me when he has said far worse.

This forum is a joke some times with what you can type and what you can't.

By the way its called sarcasm.
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Postby Bad Bob » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:40 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
babu wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:EDITED

that's well out of line.

0ut of line i was joking with lando and you go and edit me when he has said far worse.

This forum is a joke some times with what you can type and what you can't.

By the way its called sarcasm.

Actually, it's called being unnecessarily vulgar and I've had my fill of it.
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:44 pm

oooh vulgar...and i missed it!
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Postby heimdall » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:58 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
babu wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:EDITED

that's well out of line.

0ut of line i was joking with lando and you go and edit me when he has said far worse.

This forum is a joke some times with what you can type and what you can't.

By the way its called sarcasm.

Actually, it's called being unnecessarily vulgar and I've had my fill of it.

Oh so that's why I'm seeing fewer posts from Lando these days.  :rasp

Lando when you are going on the attack next time at least try and make a coherent and lucid point. Picking a microscopic subsection of statistics to prove a point is silly and neither proves or disproves the worth of statistics but you have demonstrated firstly how statsitics can be manipulated and secondly that you're not quite as clever as you think. Statistics only measure what has happened in the past so I fail to see how they can be used to predict the future, except in the sense they can be used to predict trends, which is probably what Owzat was trying to show in the first place.
Overall thogh statistics are only a pointer and I actually agree that they aren't the be all of everything but they are a good place to start.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:10 pm

heimdall wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
babu wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:EDITED

that's well out of line.

0ut of line i was joking with lando and you go and edit me when he has said far worse.

This forum is a joke some times with what you can type and what you can't.

By the way its called sarcasm.

Actually, it's called being unnecessarily vulgar and I've had my fill of it.

Oh so that's why I'm seeing fewer posts from Lando these days.  :rasp

Lando when you are going on the attack next time at least try and make a coherent and lucid point. Picking a microscopic subsection of statistics to prove a point is silly and neither proves or disproves the worth of statistics but you have demonstrated firstly how statsitics can be manipulated and secondly that you're not quite as clever as you think. Statistics only measure what has happened in the past so I fail to see how they can be used to predict the future, except in the sense they can be used to predict trends, which is probably what Owzat was trying to show in the first place.
Overall thogh statistics are only a pointer and I actually agree that they aren't the be all of everything but they are a good place to start.

Do you want me to send you a few photos of me in the buff lad?

Because this is bordering upon obsession...

I really can't see the point in my explaining this, as you haven't even grasped the fact that I was merely proving that stats can show anything. A fellow poster has said "it's called sarcasm" - I'll let you look it up.

To think that you actually agree with the point I was making, yet you still feel the need to have an ill-thought-out dig...  :down:
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:42 pm

85% of stats are made up tho, i saw that somewhere.

some of us love beni, some are starting to geta l ittle wary, some want him gone. its good to disagree, if we all felt the same what would be the point of the forum?
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Postby Number 9 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:21 pm

dawson99 wrote:85% of stats are made up tho, i saw that somewhere.

some of us love beni, some are starting to geta l ittle wary, some want him gone. its good to disagree, if we all felt the same what would be the point of the forum?

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So you heard a stat somewhere that said 85% of stats are made up?Classic.If that does'nt highlight the truth that stats are not the be all and end all then i don't know what does!
The reason i'm critical of them is that they NEVER tell the whole story.
Some fella,for example on here earlier tried to use stats to say that Eto was better than Torres.
Using the games Eto played for Barca and Torres for A madrid over 3 seasons and their goal to games ratio to basically say that Eto is better. :laugh:
Fuc'king absolute nonsense.Anyone with half a brain can look at these figures and instantly cast them aside.Barcelona have had the luxury of excellent footballers that will give any striker a boatload of chances in almost every game.the way they pass the ball around and get it into dangerous areas is excellent,a strikers dream!
Torres on the other hand played nearly every game alone upfront with mostly mediocre players around him,less supply,players of less ability.He had to work his nuts off and create a lot of goals from nothing.
This is just one example of how stats are of no use in a lot (not all) cases.Say for example you had not watched football,the numbers would suggest Eto was a better striker when everyone knows this is not the case.
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