CharmlessMan wrote:The atmosphere is quite frankly .
The Villa and Reading game, not forgetting the Bordeaux match have to be the worst I've witnessed for a long, long time. Even on the European night against Bordeaux we were shocking, the Bordeaux fans were magnificent as were the Reading fans and the Villa fans the weak before. We had all in response to any of those, most of the fans just sat there silent.
The stuff you hear from individuals is quite frankly disgusting and why passionate supporters don't shout this out of the stadium is something which has rattled my brain. All you hear these days; even in the Kop are people slagging off the players. "Pennant is poor, waste of money, boo, boo", "Zenden is useless, flippin useless". Is it me or are more retards and plastic fans from our Istanbul victory coming to Anfield? The negative comments are appalling, I sat in a seat at Anfield under the worst times of Houllier reign and I didn't hear the amount of negative comments I've heard this season when I've been to Anfield. I'm no fan of Zenden and at times Hyypia, but I'll chant their name, I'll clap when they do something right and I'll support them all the way through the match and then offer my criticisms in the local pub or on here an Internet forum, but to shout out "you should be playing in the championship" or "you're useless" is absolute disgrace.
It's not just London supporters, Scottish supporters; Irish supporters which do this it's scousers as well, so this isn't an OTT vs. Scouser debate this me highlighting the downfall in our support. The worst abuse I heard was at the Reading game towards Warnock and Reina and it was from a very thick scouse accent, I honestly felt like mouthing off to the , because the person absolutely me off and when we were singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" and "Fields of Anfield Road" the amount of people in the Kop who joint in was appalling, half of my row were silent and it's this type of which is making me hand over our title of "Best fans in the world" to Portsmouth who come rain or shine, top of the table to bottom of the table cheer their players on when they're winning, when they're losing and through thick and thin. Take note people.
If you don't know songs like "Fields of Anfield Road" and other songs learn them.
Rant Over.
CardinalRed wrote:Charmless Man (?)
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and maybe put a few noses out of joint.... The definition of a supporter/fan is not one who sings the loudest, it's their love and loyalty for their club, an emotion which doesn't have it's only manifestation in the voracity of the singing. I have never been one for singing at games, which is not to say that I don't like hearing the songs being sung. When I have travelled to Anfield I have always joined in with YNWA but then I go into a state where I really concentrate on watching the game and don't find myself singing along. People also have the right to criticise players when they have paid good money to watch them. Long ago, massively high standards were set at our club and, whether it be for good or bad, there is still the same expectation to this day. Players get both bouquets and brickbats on this forum and why shouldn't that also happen at Anfield? If a player is singled out for some stick at a game it is usually in the heat of the moment, I agree it would be worrying if it happened to the same player at every game but this is simply not the case.
Please don't be so sweeping in your judgement of other fans just because they are not the same as you.
redmikey wrote:CardinalRed wrote:Charmless Man (?)
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and maybe put a few noses out of joint.... The definition of a supporter/fan is not one who sings the loudest, it's their love and loyalty for their club, an emotion which doesn't have it's only manifestation in the voracity of the singing. I have never been one for singing at games, which is not to say that I don't like hearing the songs being sung. When I have travelled to Anfield I have always joined in with YNWA but then I go into a state where I really concentrate on watching the game and don't find myself singing along. People also have the right to criticise players when they have paid good money to watch them. Long ago, massively high standards were set at our club and, whether it be for good or bad, there is still the same expectation to this day. Players get both bouquets and brickbats on this forum and why shouldn't that also happen at Anfield? If a player is singled out for some stick at a game it is usually in the heat of the moment, I agree it would be worrying if it happened to the same player at every game but this is simply not the case.
Please don't be so sweeping in your judgement of other fans just because they are not the same as you.
if you want to be entertained for the good money you paid GO TO THE FECKING FLICKS
i can see you now with your camera phone and leaving with 15 mins to go
i refere to the stand up sit down campain which i tried to start a debate on but people go to tghe footy to see victory or nothing nowadays it is not about being a supporter but being entertained
sorry football isn't like that it has ups as well as down even for a great club like ours,
stretfordendconquerer wrote:Hi,
as an OOTer I'd like to give you my point of view:
Yes, I do think its a problem that there are so many tourists attending our games. They come to Anfield expecting a great atmosphere, because that is what Anfield is famous for. But they dont get it that they must be part of that atmosphere, they behave like people enjoying a performance in an opera. So, come on Kop, sing for me ! Thats b0ll0cks.
Unfortunately there are many locals aswell who just take their brand new digital camera to the game and take more pictures than that they concentrate on the game and give our team a decent support.
Without any boast I can say that whenever I have the possibility to get tickets for a home match I sing my a_Rse off.
Even knowing that they wont be able to get to Anfield too often in the future doesnt make the tourists chant.
So, what could we do ?
Putting up a sign in front of the kop entrance saying "Permission to lads who are willing to sing only" is maybe a bit harsh and not realistic.
Handing out leaflets with the texts of the most frequently sung songs written on it could be a solution.
But in my opinion the fact that were even thinking of things like that is an absolute shame. And seeing only 50% of the Kop singing YNWA is just
Dunno if my posting was dead helpful but I simply had to write down what p!sses me off big-time
CardinalRed wrote:redmikey wrote:CardinalRed wrote:Charmless Man (?)
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and maybe put a few noses out of joint.... The definition of a supporter/fan is not one who sings the loudest, it's their love and loyalty for their club, an emotion which doesn't have it's only manifestation in the voracity of the singing. I have never been one for singing at games, which is not to say that I don't like hearing the songs being sung. When I have travelled to Anfield I have always joined in with YNWA but then I go into a state where I really concentrate on watching the game and don't find myself singing along. People also have the right to criticise players when they have paid good money to watch them. Long ago, massively high standards were set at our club and, whether it be for good or bad, there is still the same expectation to this day. Players get both bouquets and brickbats on this forum and why shouldn't that also happen at Anfield? If a player is singled out for some stick at a game it is usually in the heat of the moment, I agree it would be worrying if it happened to the same player at every game but this is simply not the case.
Please don't be so sweeping in your judgement of other fans just because they are not the same as you.
if you want to be entertained for the good money you paid GO TO THE FECKING FLICKS
i can see you now with your camera phone and leaving with 15 mins to go
i refere to the stand up sit down campain which i tried to start a debate on but people go to tghe footy to see victory or nothing nowadays it is not about being a supporter but being entertained
sorry football isn't like that it has ups as well as down even for a great club like ours,
You really lived up to your forum name there mate, I don't have a camera phone, I'm a grown bloke who doesn't need to take pictures of other men running around on the pitch. As for leaving early, never done that, even when I travelled 3 hours to watch Barnsley beat us!
Again you sound like it's "do as I do or you're no good".....
I go to watch the reds win just like you do, don't even think about alledging that I don't.
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