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[dawson99]

But Saddam had an Army, what he was doing what wrong... he had to be stopepd. the main prob we had was blaming WMD's when we could have just said his genocide but i truly believe we  were in the right to stop him.

[Ciggy]

But Saddam had an Army, what he was doing what wrong...

You are correct in that but mate its got feck all to do with us, Arab leaders should have took him and his cronies out of power its none of our buisness.
It was an uneccessary war that 100s are dying by the day because of it.

[dawson99]

so if theres genocide we should just stay out? Rubbish. I know there are many otehr countries that dont have oil that we should be helping as well but im a pro usa uk man, not many of us out there.

the reasons for us invading were wrong but it WAS the right thing to do. Now we just need to sort it out and get out of there, invade somwehre else

[Ciggy]

so if theres genocide we should just stay out? Rubbish.

Many countries have fallen victim to genocide, and we havent got involved because there was no oil there it wasnt in our interests.
The Un France and Germany did NOT want to invade Iraq so we went on our own.
Big mistake.
Its ok for the USA and UK to say right from now on you will be westernised because we say so put people into power arm them only for them to turn out to have the same agenda of those who where ousted out of power, cause fliction then you have another war on your arms in a few years its a vicous circle like the USA armed and trained Bin Laden and Saddam.

Some of these people in these countries dont want to be westernised its not in their culture or tradition whether we agree with it or not, who the feck are we to tell other people how to live their lives its got nothing to do with us.
We should mind our own buiseness and get our own country in order first.
Starting with these scally thugs growing up today that our totally feckin up our streets.

[puroresu]

Saddam was an evil man and needed to be removed but invading Iraq was a stupid thing to do.  Iraq is total chaos and there doesnt even look like there is the slimmest hope of some sort of future for the people in Iraq.  The numbers dying every day is huge.  Still there is a lack of electricity and basic needs such as water.  The people of Iraq will resist the occupying forces till every last one leaves. No matter how many troops are put in place the resistance will continue.  If the troops leave there still will be chaos however can it get any worse than it is now? 

The secterian divide in Iraq has only got worse under the occupation.  For centuries the Shia and Sunni have lived together, intermarried and pretty much got on together but since the invasion it has got out of control.

It could be argued that Sudan and Congo is witnessing geonicide. Do u think troops should be sent to those two countries?

[dawson99]

honestly? sometmies i just think we should nuke the middle east and start over

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honestly? sometmies i just think we should nuke the middle east and start over

Now we're getting somewhere. Why spend all that money on expensive warheads and then never use them? We may as well get some use out of them before they reach their expiory date. Maybe we should steal all their oil first though, just in case. 

[woof woof !]

I can’t stand Islam and I wished the Romans had wiped the disgusting faith out,

Considering that the Roman Empire ended circa the 5th century A.D and Islam was founded in the 7th century A.D. I'm sure if you stop and think about it , even you would see that wiping out a faith that had not yet been created would have been quite difficult, even for the Romans.

At the time of the Romans paganism and christianity were the dominating relgions throughout the known world.

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what have the romans ever done for us?

[woof woof !]

Opened the first Chippy in Britain . Just outside Deva (now Chester)

[Big Niall]

But Saddam had an Army, what he was doing what wrong... he had to be stopepd. the main prob we had was blaming WMD's when we could have just said his genocide but i truly believe we  were in the right to stop him.

Iraq is worse off now than under sadaam and who do you think gave him the weapons he gassed the kurds with - Donald Rumsfield and good ol USA. He was apparantly "our guy" back then.

[dawson99]

yeah he was, nthen he wasnt.

basically, no matter why we went, its good that we did. weve just done it all wrong since.

[Big Niall]

A dictator controlling various ethnic groups is sometimes the only way.

See what happened when Tito died - yugoslavia went on a genocide rampage.

Iraq is a false country anyway, only created in early 20th century by Britain and France when carving up the middle east(hadn't found oil yet). Needs to be separated into 3 countries for kurds, shiite, sunni, using forced moving of loads of people (happened at end of WW2 in Europe and has helped keep the peace here since), problem will then be how to allocate oil profits.

[Bad Bob]

honestly? sometmies i just think we should nuke the middle east and start over

Christ, Dawson, let's show a little sensitivity towards our Middle Eastern mates on this board, hmmm?

Metalhead took a lot of stick for joking about backpacks a few months back but this is every bit as insensitive.

[puroresu]

A dictator controlling various ethnic groups is sometimes the only way.

See what happened when Tito died - yugoslavia went on a genocide rampage.

Iraq is a false country anyway, only created in early 20th century by Britain and France when carving up the middle east(hadn't found oil yet). Needs to be separated into 3 countries for kurds, shiite, sunni, using forced moving of loads of people (happened at end of WW2 in Europe and has helped keep the peace here since), problem will then be how to allocate oil profits.

I disagree.  Seperating the state on ethnic grounds will cause even more division and hatred. 

The only real thing which unifies the people of Iraq is Islam.  The only real solution is political Islam.