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[Lando_Griffin]

Why is it that a few members on here insist on accusing people of being racist (dressed up however you like) when they express a dislike for a foreign player/person? Must we all fall head-over-heels in love with every non-English player or forever be classed a bigot? This is beyond obsession.
I refer you all to the George Best thread. I hate everything the man stands for. Yes he was a fantastic footballer, but this doesn't mean a thing in real life. Do some people think that should Best get to the Pearly Gates, the wretched actions of his past will be forgotten as St. Peter says:
"Oh yes, Mr Best. You may have beaten countless women, etc, but that goal you scored in the FA cup was brilliant. Welcome aboard."?
Where are the moral standards of people right now? Are they in the gutter? The sewers?
I may be no Angel, but I would say that I have a good idea of what is right or wrong most of the time. Hitting women is certainly wrong, and no amount of classy goals will counter that. Had Best shown remorse, fair enough. He hasn't. But I digress:
The fact is, certain people on here seem to think that if an English poster disagrees with a foreign one, or, God forbid, dares to type an insult about a foreigner, they should be immediately branded racist.
This is absolutely incorrect, unfair, and slanderous.

Everyone is entitled to hate anyone, foreign, English or bleeding Klingon.

The race card is being shown more than yellows at a Sheffield Utd match. Stop it right now.

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well said mate. i agree with you 100%

i think some people on here dont actually know what racism is

[JBG]

i think some people on here dont actually know what racism is

The ironic thing is, the person here who gets on his soapbox and beats the racism drum most is a closet racist himself.

He who hath no sin cast the first stone.

[Judge]

Why is it that a few members on here insist on accusing people of being racist (dressed up however you like) when they express a dislike for a foreign player/person? Must we all fall head-over-heels in love with every non-English player or forever be classed a bigot? This is beyond obsession.
I refer you all to the George Best thread. I hate everything the man stands for. Yes he was a fantastic footballer, but this doesn't mean a thing in real life. Do some people think that should Best get to the Pearly Gates, the wretched actions of his past will be forgotten as St. Peter says:
"Oh yes, Mr Best. You may have beaten countless women, etc, but that goal you scored in the FA cup was brilliant. Welcome aboard."?
Where are the moral standards of people right now? Are they in the gutter? The sewers?
I may be no Angel, but I would say that I have a good idea of what is right or wrong most of the time. Hitting women is certainly wrong, and no amount of classy goals will counter that. Had Best shown remorse, fair enough. He hasn't. But I digress:
The fact is, certain people on here seem to think that if an English poster disagrees with a foreign one, or, God forbid, dares to type an insult about a foreigner, they should be immediately branded racist.
This is absolutely incorrect, unfair, and slanderous.

Everyone is entitled to hate anyone, foreign, English or bleeding Klingon.

The race card is being shown more than yellows at a Sheffield Utd match. Stop it right now.

i agree lando, but i dont wish Mr Best dead though




mind you though, that goal he scored was sublime 

[JC_81]

Why is it that a few members on here insist on accusing people of being racist (dressed up however you like) when they express a dislike for a foreign player/person? Must we all fall head-over-heels in love with every non-English player or forever be classed a bigot? This is beyond obsession.
I refer you all to the George Best thread. I hate everything the man stands for. Yes he was a fantastic footballer, but this doesn't mean a thing in real life. Do some people think that should Best get to the Pearly Gates, the wretched actions of his past will be forgotten as St. Peter says:
"Oh yes, Mr Best. You may have beaten countless women, etc, but that goal you scored in the FA cup was brilliant. Welcome aboard."?
Where are the moral standards of people right now? Are they in the gutter? The sewers?
I may be no Angel, but I would say that I have a good idea of what is right or wrong most of the time. Hitting women is certainly wrong, and no amount of classy goals will counter that. Had Best shown remorse, fair enough. He hasn't. But I digress:
The fact is, certain people on here seem to think that if an English poster disagrees with a foreign one, or, God forbid, dares to type an insult about a foreigner, they should be immediately branded racist.
This is absolutely incorrect, unfair, and slanderous.

Everyone is entitled to hate anyone, foreign, English or bleeding Klingon.

The race card is being shown more than yellows at a Sheffield Utd match. Stop it right now.

In terms of the Best comment there, can I ask if you've actually read that thread properly mate?  Who called you a racist?  Who insinuated you were a racist?  Who called you a bigot?  The answer is no one.

I mentioned that it is my opinion that many English people may have a tainted view of Best because of a lot of nonsense written about him in the English press.  If that constitutes me accusing you of being racist then I'm guilty as charged.

The racist card is thrown about in here a bit too much, but sometimes it is justified. However the Best thread is a bad analogy, I can't see any hint of racism in it at all.  Seems you are acting a bit defensive about this issue.

Back to the issue of the English press that I speak of.  How do you know that he beat 'countless' women??  Were you there Lando??  Of course you fu.cking weren't, that's what you read in the tabloids like everyone else.  Best was certainly no angel and I've said several times that any abuse towards women is indefensible, but I'm not going to judge the guy by things that I've read in the tabloids.

[Big Niall]

ONe point each lads,

I do hold Niall Quinn in much higher regard than George Best (the person is more important than the footballer).

However, I also don't believe most of the news I see in the british/american news. See the clip they showed of Galloway with Saddam saying how much respect he had for him, the full footage would have shown him talking about the Iraqi people not to Saddam who he was looking at. Don't believe the media. I don't know much about best beating women.

[Judge]

but I'm not going to judge the guy by things that I've read in the tabloids.

no mate, it could be worse, you could form your own opinion     

[Garymac]

Could someone clear something up for me as well because a few months back i got a bit of a b0llocking on a training course for beinging politacally incorrect, i was told to do one of these / on a search thing in work and i said, oh you mean a backslash and the woman flipped and said "no it is now known as an oblieq, and your not to use that term again" (or something like that, dont know how its spelt) to be honest ive always called it a backslash and will continue you to because im unawares of how i have offended anybody or anything.

[Judge]

Could someone clear something up for me as well because a few months back i got a bit of a b0llocking on a training course for beinging politacally incorrect, i was told to do one of these / on a search thing in work and i said, oh you mean a backslash and the woman flipped and said "no it is now known as an oblieq, and your not to use that term again" (or something like that, dont know how its spelt) to be honest ive always called it a backslash and will continue you to because im unawares of how i have offended anybody or anything.

a backslash is something you do at a nightclub when your drunk, and the bogs are 3 deep.

just pee up their backs..........hence backslash

Gary, the women was jealous, coz they have to crouch when they piss, and dangle their lettuce 3 inch from the floor  , i mean i can dangle my willy 3 inch from the floor, and im stood up  . women, you can never please them!! 

[Garymac]

Could someone clear something up for me as well because a few months back i got a bit of a b0llocking on a training course for beinging politacally incorrect, i was told to do one of these / on a search thing in work and i said, oh you mean a backslash and the woman flipped and said "no it is now known as an oblieq, and your not to use that term again" (or something like that, dont know how its spelt) to be honest ive always called it a backslash and will continue you to because im unawares of how i have offended anybody or anything.

a backslash is something you do at a nightclub when your drunk, and the bogs are 3 deep.

just pee up their backs..........hence backslash

Gary, the women was jealous, coz they have to crouch when they piss, and dangle their lettuce 3 inch from the floor  , i mean i can dangle my willy 3 inch from the floor, and im stood up  . women, you can never please them!! 

Cheers Judge for clearing that up for us.......Reminds of that joke of the fella who gets granted a wish by a genie and he says he wants his d!ck to touch the floor........So the genie chops his legs off!!!

[Judge]

i remember that one also. its much funnier drunk tho

[66-1120597113]

i think some people on here dont actually know what racism is

The ironic thing is, the person here who gets on his soapbox and beats the racism drum most is a closet racist himself.

He who hath no sin cast the first stone.

A closet racist indeed!!
But only if one resides in the Emerald isle!!    

[Lando_Griffin]

i think some people on here dont actually know what racism is

The ironic thing is, the person here who gets on his soapbox and beats the racism drum most is a closet racist himself.

He who hath no sin cast the first stone.

Who are you refering to JBG?

[Lando_Griffin]

Why is it that a few members on here insist on accusing people of being racist (dressed up however you like) when they express a dislike for a foreign player/person? Must we all fall head-over-heels in love with every non-English player or forever be classed a bigot? This is beyond obsession.
I refer you all to the George Best thread. I hate everything the man stands for. Yes he was a fantastic footballer, but this doesn't mean a thing in real life. Do some people think that should Best get to the Pearly Gates, the wretched actions of his past will be forgotten as St. Peter says:
"Oh yes, Mr Best. You may have beaten countless women, etc, but that goal you scored in the FA cup was brilliant. Welcome aboard."?
Where are the moral standards of people right now? Are they in the gutter? The sewers?
I may be no Angel, but I would say that I have a good idea of what is right or wrong most of the time. Hitting women is certainly wrong, and no amount of classy goals will counter that. Had Best shown remorse, fair enough. He hasn't. But I digress:
The fact is, certain people on here seem to think that if an English poster disagrees with a foreign one, or, God forbid, dares to type an insult about a foreigner, they should be immediately branded racist.
This is absolutely incorrect, unfair, and slanderous.

Everyone is entitled to hate anyone, foreign, English or bleeding Klingon.

The race card is being shown more than yellows at a Sheffield Utd match. Stop it right now.

In terms of the Best comment there, can I ask if you've actually read that thread properly mate?  Who called you a racist?  Who insinuated you were a racist?  Who called you a bigot?  The answer is no one.

I mentioned that it is my opinion that many English people may have a tainted view of Best because of a lot of nonsense written about him in the English press.  If that constitutes me accusing you of being racist then I'm guilty as charged.

The racist card is thrown about in here a bit too much, but sometimes it is justified. However the Best thread is a bad analogy, I can't see any hint of racism in it at all.  Seems you are acting a bit defensive about this issue.

Back to the issue of the English press that I speak of.  How do you know that he beat 'countless' women??  Were you there Lando??  Of course you fu.cking weren't, that's what you read in the tabloids like everyone else.  Best was certainly no angel and I've said several times that any abuse towards women is indefensible, but I'm not going to judge the guy by things that I've read in the tabloids.

I never said I had been accused. But it's patently obvious that in your posts to that thread you are insinuating that us English can't take it that it's not an English player regarded as the best, and that we dislike Best because of his nationality.

The media is sh*t in this country, but Best has himself admitted to beating women. I say countless as no one knows the exact amount but him, if he can remember.

Just as a matter of interest, how would us English be percieved if we said;
"You Irish (dodgy start) hate everything thats English (no better) because you've got an inferiorority complex (terrible ending)?"

I don't believe that last sentence. I said it purly to highlight a stereotype which would be hammered by everyone.
Just because you are doing it the other way around should we allow it?
Why is it expected that the English must rise above the abuse we often recieve from the other British countries, yet as soon as we retort, we are hounded?

I'm don't want to have a bust up with you John. I have nothing against any nation, but I do have problems with certain people (such as Best).
I don't wish to argue about race, I'm just making a point that whats seemingly acceptable for one nation, isn't for another.
I want to know why.

[Judge]

you can have my liver lando, even though you booze alot