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by **48-1119859832** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:46 am

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Agreed. France should never of relied so heavily on him but the fact still remains that Zidane getting sent off effectively ruined their chances of lifting the World Cup

That was a major factor, Zidane is a huge influence in the French side, he makes things happen, scores goals, takes a great penalty, but he was on for the full 90 minutes. France should really have tried to win the game in normal time, the fact that they never thru men forward and played a rather cautious game (yet still being the better side) meant that the game had to go to extra time and that's when the incident happened. Penalties is much about luck as it is about technique and France didn't have the luck on the night.

by **clik** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:53 am

zz was a legend and one of the gifted footballers of our time but even if he'd stayed on pitch Italy may still have won they took 5 of the best pens you;ll ever see Well done to Italy and goodbye zz you will be missed:(

by **stmichael** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:00 pm

people bang on about the incident last night as if it was out of character but that so isn't true. the guy got banned for headbutting a guy in the CL in 2000 whilst playing for juventus. he also got sent off in the world cup in 1998 and has been involved in a series of other "incidents" throughout his career. what he did last night was out of order and must have been provoked by some sort of racist comment by materazzi. of course more will be made of it because it was the final and it was zidane's last game but imo it was no worse than what de rossi did earlier in the tournament.

at the end of the day, he's the best player i've seen in my lifetime watching football and should be remembered for all the good things which he brought to the game.

just on a sidenote, if the officials didn't see the headbutt and had to be informed by a fourth or fifth official as to what had happened, we have officially seen the first use of video technology in football.

by **48-1119859832** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:09 pm

stmichael wrote:just on a sidenote, if the officials didn't see the headbutt and had to be informed by a fourth or fifth official as to what had happened, we have officially seen the first use of video technology in football.

Wasn't the Portugal vs Holland match? When Figo headbutted that Dutch player? The first use of video technology in football?

by **clik** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:19 pm

0asis wrote:
stmichael wrote:just on a sidenote, if the officials didn't see the headbutt and had to be informed by a fourth or fifth official as to what had happened, we have officially seen the first use of video technology in football.

Wasn't the Portugal vs Holland match? When Figo headbutted that Dutch player? The first use of video technology in football?

true but it doesn't work cos Figo wasn't sent off which he should have been it was a clear butt and if the 4th official saw it and told referee what he saw surely he would have sent Figo off but he didn't so we are still left with inconsistent refereeing.

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:25 pm

EddieC wrote:Wonder what Matterazi said for him to react like that?

"hey ZZ..i think you're going bald"

by **stmichael** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:34 pm

by **Big Niall** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:49 pm

stmichael wrote:people bang on about the incident last night as if it was out of character but that so isn't true. the guy got banned for headbutting a guy in the CL in 2000 whilst playing for juventus. he also got sent off in the world cup in 1998 and has been involved in a series of other "incidents" throughout his career. what he did last night was out of order and must have been provoked by some sort of racist comment by materazzi. of course more will be made of it because it was the final and it was zidane's last game but imo it was no worse than what de rossi did earlier in the tournament.

at the end of the day, he's the best player i've seen in my lifetime watching football and should be remembered for all the good things which he brought to the game.

just on a sidenote, if the officials didn't see the headbutt and had to be informed by a fourth or fifth official as to what had happened, we have officially seen the first use of video technology in football.

What a bo11ox thing to say. Materazzi must have racially abuse him ? really? the victim is yet again the problem.

NO matter what the Italian said Zidane was the one in the wrong.

It does diminish his standing (although he is still up there with the greats) that in the biggest match in the world, at the pressure moment, he let his team down.

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:59 pm

Big Niall wrote:
stmichael wrote:people bang on about the incident last night as if it was out of character but that so isn't true. the guy got banned for headbutting a guy in the CL in 2000 whilst playing for juventus. he also got sent off in the world cup in 1998 and has been involved in a series of other "incidents" throughout his career. what he did last night was out of order and must have been provoked by some sort of racist comment by materazzi. of course more will be made of it because it was the final and it was zidane's last game but imo it was no worse than what de rossi did earlier in the tournament.

at the end of the day, he's the best player i've seen in my lifetime watching football and should be remembered for all the good things which he brought to the game.

just on a sidenote, if the officials didn't see the headbutt and had to be informed by a fourth or fifth official as to what had happened, we have officially seen the first use of video technology in football.

What a bo11ox thing to say. Materazzi must have racially abuse him ? really? the victim is yet again the problem.

NO matter what the Italian said Zidane was the one in the wrong.

It does diminish his standing (although he is still up there with the greats) that in the biggest match in the world, at the pressure moment, he let his team down.

its a sad way to leave football...i think ZZ must feel ashamed of how he reacted and (as you said) there's no justification for the way he reacted.

by **ConnO'var** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:10 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Big Niall wrote:
stmichael wrote:people bang on about the incident last night as if it was out of character but that so isn't true. the guy got banned for headbutting a guy in the CL in 2000 whilst playing for juventus. he also got sent off in the world cup in 1998 and has been involved in a series of other "incidents" throughout his career. what he did last night was out of order and must have been provoked by some sort of racist comment by materazzi. of course more will be made of it because it was the final and it was zidane's last game but imo it was no worse than what de rossi did earlier in the tournament.

at the end of the day, he's the best player i've seen in my lifetime watching football and should be remembered for all the good things which he brought to the game.

just on a sidenote, if the officials didn't see the headbutt and had to be informed by a fourth or fifth official as to what had happened, we have officially seen the first use of video technology in football.

What a bo11ox thing to say. Materazzi must have racially abuse him ? really? the victim is yet again the problem.

NO matter what the Italian said Zidane was the one in the wrong.

It does diminish his standing (although he is still up there with the greats) that in the biggest match in the world, at the pressure moment, he let his team down.

its a sad way to leave football...i think ZZ must feel ashamed of how he reacted and (as you said) there's no justification for the way he reacted.

Agreed. No condoning what he did last night. Absolutely indefensible or excusable.

He's done this before and Materazzi obviously knew the right buttons to press.

Still, he's the best player of his generation I've ever seen... and I hope that his moments of madness will not define his playing career.

Like so many great players, his genius is often tempered with a flawed temper.

I'll always remember him for the illumination that he brought onto the football pitch and the countless times he brought a smile to my face.

Allez Zizou!!!
You'll always be the incandescent star that was a joy to watch.

Au voir......

by **darwisigila** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:13 pm

a rare breed of footballer..how many years we must wait to see another one?? A true legend.

by **hawkmoon269** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:23 pm

Link to the head butt on video

by **48-1119859832** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:43 pm

I love the way Zidane is deeply condemned for his actions, yes he let his team down, but we don't know what was said, Materazzi could of made a racist comment towards Zidane and that was what set him off. But until you're in that same position you don't know how you'd react. So climb down off your high horse and he didn't cost France the World Cup, the rest of the players played a part also. Zidane's actions were disgraceful, but hey he hasn't macth fixed like half the Italian players, he hasn't been diving around the place. His reputation hasn't been tarnished at all, it's all you high horse climber and pedestal owners that are making something out of nothing. :no

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:58 pm

clik wrote:zz was a legend and one of the gifted footballers of our time but even if he'd stayed on pitch Italy may still have won they took 5 of the best pens you;ll ever see Well done to Italy and goodbye zz you will be missed:(

Italy did take 5 very good penalties but the margin of error for France was 1 missed penalty, a penalty that most likely would of been scored if Zidane was taking it

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:00 pm

ConnO'var wrote:
stmichael wrote:people bang on about the incident last night as if it was out of character but that so isn't true. the guy got banned for headbutting a guy in the CL in 2000 whilst playing for juventus. he also got sent off in the world cup in 1998 and has been involved in a series of other "incidents" throughout his career. what he did last night was out of order and must have been provoked by some sort of racist comment by materazzi. of course more will be made of it because it was the final and it was zidane's last game but imo it was no worse than what de rossi did earlier in the tournament.

at the end of the day, he's the best player i've seen in my lifetime watching football and should be remembered for all the good things which he brought to the game.

just on a sidenote, if the officials didn't see the headbutt and had to be informed by a fourth or fifth official as to what had happened, we have officially seen the first use of video technology in football.

Actually it was the linesman who told the ref of the headbutt. Not sure whether he was informed by someone else but it was when the ref spoke to the lino he made the decision

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