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Postby lakes10 » Mon May 28, 2012 7:57 pm

Thommo's perm » Mon May 28, 2012 7:45 pm wrote:Ive been thiunking about this all weekend. So much so that I stayed off the internet and didnt watch SSN at all yesterday
I think Im agreeing that Martinez should be the next manager. I know I said no way a couple of weeks ago but it is starting to make more sense to me now
Cons:
1.  Hes young and has no experience with big clubs
2. He has not won major honours or had great expectations placed on him
3. He will probably be overawed and hesitant
4. Hes a bottom part of the league manager who has only worked with such players
5. He will be a yes man because of the above
6. Hes not Rafa

Pros:
1. Hes passionate, honest and keen
2. Hes bright, intelligent and media savvy
3. Hes been in the premiership long enough to know how it works and what we crave for
4. He knows how to motivate players and get the best out of them
5. He prefers attacking, flowing football
6. Hes not Rafa

I know it looks like a step down but we need fresh new ideas and someone who can man manage. KK did his job and set the foundations. Rafa has too much baggage. The others are not going to come here under these circumstances, so Martinez is the best of the rest.
With 100% suport from the fans, the owners and the players he could be a breath of fresh air and bring a much needed change in fortune that we need.
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good post mate
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 28, 2012 8:01 pm

i reckon fsg are taking a big gamble on appointing martinez, i dont think he`s an exciting enough name, i dont think the fans will see the logic in replacing kenny with someone with such an average CV.
i think it will be a bit like the roy situation myself with fans moaning from quite early on.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon May 28, 2012 8:02 pm

supersub » Mon May 28, 2012 5:50 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon May 28, 2012 6:46 pm wrote:I think everyone is feeling slightly underwhelmed by the apparent indecision of the candidates ,I mean just when exactly did managing
Liverpool slip out of the running for one of the most coveted jobs in football ?



When any prospective managers realised they would have to work with a very limited budget.......


This is what vexes me mate ,the owners have yet to flex their considerable financial muscle ,and yet the rumours are they're reluctant to free the
purse strings for the reds ....Its not good enough mate ,especially given they can break the bank for the Red Sox .

It seems whenever we get new American owners mate ,their remit is to release the minimal amount of capital ..I mean this new ground/re-development
is once again proving a real bugbear and once again our new landlords are loathe to make any genuine commitments.

Deja Vu ? Or is it really the end of the honeymoon and FSG need to dig into those talked about bottomless pockets and reaffirm to the fans their opulence
is not spawned from myth .
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Postby Thommo's perm » Mon May 28, 2012 8:04 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 28, 2012 7:01 pm wrote:i reckon fsg are taking a big gamble on appointing martinez, i dont think he`s an exciting enough name, i dont think the fans will see the logic in replacing kenny with someone with such an average CV.
i think it will be a bit like the roy situation myself with fans moaning from quite early on.


Probably
But Roy was old, cautious and not very attack minded
Martinez is the opposite and if he does come, and the fans dont get behind him, then we will see what decline means...
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 28, 2012 8:18 pm

Thommo's perm » Mon May 28, 2012 7:04 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 28, 2012 7:01 pm wrote:i reckon fsg are taking a big gamble on appointing martinez, i dont think he`s an exciting enough name, i dont think the fans will see the logic in replacing kenny with someone with such an average CV.
i think it will be a bit like the roy situation myself with fans moaning from quite early on.


Probably
But Roy was old, cautious and not very attack minded
Martinez is the opposite and if he does come, and the fans dont get behind him, then we will see what decline means...


i think there`s a sense that fsg`s priority at the moment is to put a new management structure in place and to lessen the power of the manager.
thats why they have really only looked at the likes of martinez, lambert and rodgers.
maybe they dont want to find themselves in the same position h+g found themselves in when it was a stand off between the owners and a charismatic manager who had the backing of the fans. maybe they want managers to be a bit more expendable in the future and the stability and continuity will come from the DoF`s.
we are just sending out the wrong signals at the moment as a club imo, i just find myself a bit baffled why we`d appoint a perennial relegation dodger after 3 consecutive poor league campaigns, what is the message fsg are trying to convey? acceptance of mediocrity?
even arsenal at least tried to sign hazard, they were never going to get him but at least they tried.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon May 28, 2012 8:24 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 28, 2012 7:01 pm wrote:i reckon fsg are taking a big gamble on appointing martinez, i dont think he`s an exciting enough name, i dont think the fans will see the logic in replacing kenny with someone with such an average CV.
i think it will be a bit like the roy situation myself with fans moaning from quite early on.


Us older fans mate have seen our share of fantastic reds managers ,all had qualities which made them truly special ...its only now that the fan base is split
you realise it was the fans unity and belief that provided the  pedestal from which they performed minor miracles in the name of Liverpool Football Club .

My premise for this particular conclusion is that of all the managers that have been touted for the job ,Martinez has the feel of a Liverpool manager .
I would love to say I have arrived at this revelation based on a complicated system I have devised to weed out the incompatible ,but its nothing more
than a Kopite having a nose for these things .... I cant explain it ,but over the years have come to trust it implicitly .
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 28, 2012 8:51 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon May 28, 2012 7:24 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 28, 2012 7:01 pm wrote:i reckon fsg are taking a big gamble on appointing martinez, i dont think he`s an exciting enough name, i dont think the fans will see the logic in replacing kenny with someone with such an average CV.
i think it will be a bit like the roy situation myself with fans moaning from quite early on.


Us older fans mate have seen our share of fantastic reds managers ,all had qualities which made them truly special ...its only now that the fan base is split
you realise it was the fans unity and belief that provided the  pedestal from which they performed minor miracles in the name of Liverpool Football Club .

My premise for this particular conclusion is that of all the managers that have been touted for the job ,Martinez has the feel of a Liverpool manager .
I would love to say I have arrived at this revelation based on a complicated system I have devised to weed out the incompatible ,but its nothing more
than a Kopite having a nose for these things .... I cant explain it ,but over the years have come to trust it implicitly .


well i hope your right mate i really do but i just sense that the fans are a bit underwhelmed and even apothetic about it all, i think fans know that expecting martinez to have us competing with the likes of city, united and chelsea is a long shot, a very long shot.
those clubs are all looking at the guardiola`s, hazards, hulks and falcao`s while we are looking at gambling on a unproven relegation dodger.
it`s almost like the last throw of the dice.
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Postby The Good Yank » Mon May 28, 2012 8:55 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon May 28, 2012 2:02 pm wrote:
supersub » Mon May 28, 2012 5:50 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon May 28, 2012 6:46 pm wrote:I think everyone is feeling slightly underwhelmed by the apparent indecision of the candidates ,I mean just when exactly did managing
Liverpool slip out of the running for one of the most coveted jobs in football ?



When any prospective managers realised they would have to work with a very limited budget.......


...especially given they can break the bank for the Red Sox...

If you look at the numbers, they don't break the bank for the Red Sox.  They spend what the Red Sox generate, as they will with LFC.
s@int - 13 December 2009

I won't celebrate Rafa going........ but I will be over the moon if Dalglish comes in. League within 2 years if he gets the job, AND YOU CAN QUOTE ME ON THAT.
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Postby Boxscarf » Mon May 28, 2012 9:05 pm

If our next manager doesn't get the support he deserves from the supporters, the owners and the players, then I'm severing my ties with this football club. I'll watch football as a neutral, not as a supporter of any one club, because our treatment of our last four managers has been diabolical, it's beyond a joke.
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Postby Boxscarf » Mon May 28, 2012 9:07 pm

The Good Yank » Mon May 28, 2012 7:55 pm wrote:If you look at the numbers, they don't break the bank for the Red Sox.  They spend what the Red Sox generate, as they will with LFC.


This is what they stated they'd do with Liverpool football club which is why they changed our kit makers to warrior sports.
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Postby burjennio » Mon May 28, 2012 9:09 pm

Boxscarf » Mon May 28, 2012 8:05 pm wrote:If our next manager doesn't get the support he deserves from the supporters, the owners and the players, then I'm severing my ties with this football club. I'll watch football as a neutral, not as a supporter of any one club, because our treatment of our last four managers has been diabolical, it's beyond a joke.


YOU NEED TO START TAKING THESE:

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Postby metalhead » Mon May 28, 2012 9:11 pm

Boxscarf » Mon May 28, 2012 8:05 pm wrote:If our next manager doesn't get the support he deserves from the supporters, the owners and the players, then I'm severing my ties with this football club. I'll watch football as a neutral, not as a supporter of any one club, because our treatment of our last four managers has been diabolical, it's beyond a joke.


You are being hypocritical
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon May 28, 2012 9:12 pm

Boxscarf » Mon May 28, 2012 9:05 pm wrote:If our next manager doesn't get the support he deserves from the supporters, the owners and the players, then I'm severing my ties with this football club. I'll watch football as a neutral, not as a supporter of any one club, because our treatment of our last four managers has been diabolical, it's beyond a joke.


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Postby dundreamin » Mon May 28, 2012 9:15 pm

This is going to end in tears,yet again. FSG are in it for profit they don't give a flying fook about the fans. Honestly am beginning to dispair
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Postby Boxscarf » Mon May 28, 2012 9:17 pm

metalhead » Mon May 28, 2012 8:11 pm wrote:
You are being hypocritical


No I'm not, I backed Dalglish, but I have to confess Kenny was frustrating as the previous three managers. If Kenny was our manager now I'd be satisfied.
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