Liverpool FC Forum

[Kharhaz]

Is martinez having having a meeting with our club in the morning?
see a few tweets that this might be the case.
The last i heard we was not going to eye to eye meeting with and manager untill we had a few in mind that wished to take the job on?

i hope its not true Lakes , i like the lad tbh he seems a decent fella , especialy sticking up for Rafa the way he did against the drunk , but i feel his time here is to early and i can see this being another Owl scenario ,

i`ve heard he`s meeting them thursday in boston, but before we press the panic buttons they are planning on meeting a few people.
i agree with what you say about another hodgson, those managers who spend their careers at the bottom end of the league have a different outlook to the top managers.

Bill Shankly anyone?

[Kenny Kan]

We need experience in this managerial position, not some would be up and coming manager, that's not what we need right now.

[Kharhaz]

We need experience in this managerial position, not some would be up and coming manager, that's not what we need right now.

We need a manager who is able to use what he has to the best effect. To get the best out of players and to know when to use subs to get a result. All our experienced managers haven't managed that yet. What we have had are players out of form constantly played until they put in a good game. Managers of lower clubs know this cannot be the case, you cannot compromise the team on one player. Results HAVE TO BE . Simple as that. I think someone like Martinez is exactly what we need.

[Kenny Kan]

We need experience in this managerial position, not some would be up and coming manager, that's not what we need right now.

We need a manager who is able to use what he has to the best effect. To get the best out of players and to know when to use subs to get a result. All our experienced managers haven't managed that yet. What we have had are players out of form constantly played until they put in a good game. Managers of lower clubs know this cannot be the case, you cannot compromise the team on one player. Results HAVE TO BE . Simple as that. I think someone like Martinez is exactly what we need.

There's no guarantee he'd command the respect of the players, never mind the fans.

His defenses seem to leak more goals than a colander and I think it's imperative that we don't fart @rse around with (no offense) a relegation scrapper who has NO experience what so ever with a big club. It's a feckin big gamble if you ask me.

[Kharhaz]

We need experience in this managerial position, not some would be up and coming manager, that's not what we need right now.

We need a manager who is able to use what he has to the best effect. To get the best out of players and to know when to use subs to get a result. All our experienced managers haven't managed that yet. What we have had are players out of form constantly played until they put in a good game. Managers of lower clubs know this cannot be the case, you cannot compromise the team on one player. Results HAVE TO BE . Simple as that. I think someone like Martinez is exactly what we need.

There's no guarantee he'd command the respect of the players, never mind the fans.

His defenses seem to leak more goals than a colander and I think it's imperative that we don't fart @rse around with (no offense) a relegation scrapper who has NO experience what so ever with a big club. It's a feckin big gamble if you ask me.

True, I agree. It is a gamble. But for me, its one worth taking. A new direction, he suffers the same fate as an experienced manager. Whoever comes in will be a hit or miss. Why not take a gamble?

[Kenny Kan]

    Why not take a gamble?                         

With the position we're in at the moment Kharhaz, I'd prefer we took a 'safer' option. Just my opinion.

[Kharhaz]

    Why not take a gamble?                         

With the position we're in at the moment Kharhaz, I'd prefer we took a 'safer' option. Just my opinion.

We have played safe, look where its got us.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Bill Shankly anyone?

different game back then mate, managers often took sides out of the lower divisions and took them to the top of the game, just after shankly did it don revie followed us out of the second division and to the very top of the game. clough did it with derby and then forest, toshack went through the divisions with swansea and graham taylor did the same with watford. they finished second to us one season and got to a cup final too.
but since the premier league began smaller clubs have a different priority, they dont want to go to the top of the game they want to stay in the premier league and collect the cash, years ago managers of smaller clubs had a right go and if they fell out of the top flight it wasnt the end of the world, these days it`s the difference of tens of millions. the managers of clubs like wigan get told one thing at the start of a season - stay in the division at all costs.
thats their mindset down there, roy had it and martinez will have it.

[Kenny Kan]

    Why not take a gamble?                         

With the position we're in at the moment Kharhaz, I'd prefer we took a 'safer' option. Just my opinion.

We have played safe, look where its got us.

True.

I honestly don't feckin know. 

[Kharhaz]

I think we should tread new waters, we could be pleasantly surprised.

[crim cram]

I don't think you can compare Roy w/ Martinez in terms of "bottom club mentality".  Martinez is much younger and plays a more dynamic form of football.  He's not the "safe pair of hands" Roy was billed as.  Martinez is also tactically flexible, but within an attacking mindset.  I would like to see football played the right way at Anfield next season and Martinez fits the bill.  As far as the players buying in, most want to play the way Martinez sets up (not Carragher  )  Agger, Lucas, Gerrard, Suarez, Carrol, etc.. would relish playing attacking football.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I don't think you can compare Roy w/ Martinez in terms of "bottom club mentality".  Martinez is much younger and plays a more dynamic form of football.  He's not the "safe pair of hands" Roy was billed as.  Martinez is also tactically flexible, but within an attacking mindset.  I would like to see football played the right way at Anfield next season and Martinez fits the bill.  As far as the players buying in, most want to play the way Martinez sets up (not Carragher  )  Agger, Lucas, Gerrard, Suarez, Carrol, etc.. would relish playing attacking football.

mate, managing swansea and wigan isnt the CV of a liverpool manager, it just f**king isnt. now martinez may turn out to be a good manager in the future but he needs to prove himself at an everton or a villa or a newcastle first.
martinez won 4 games in a 6 month period last season, his teams in the past have been beaten 9-0 and 8-0, his teams ship goals, at christmas he was the bookies favourite to lose his job.
i cant believe we are even considering him, i really cant, it`s staggering to me that we are.

[Kharhaz]

mate, managing swansea and wigan isnt the CV of a liverpool manager, it just f**king isnt.

Yes it is. It started with Shankly.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

mate, managing swansea and wigan isnt the CV of a liverpool manager, it just f**king isnt.

Yes it is. It started with Shankly.

no its not, for a start we were a second division club when we hired shankly and we had been one for 6 seasons.
if we were in the second division now i`d say yes, fair enough lets go for martinez, but we are not.
and i`ve already explained how money has changed the game in an earlier post, these days you have managers who`s entire mindset is to keep teams in divisions, that didnt happen years ago, if you went down a division it didnt make hardly any difference to your finances if you still had decent crowds.

[Kharhaz]

mate, managing swansea and wigan isnt the CV of a liverpool manager, it just f**king isnt.

Yes it is. It started with Shankly.

no its not, for a start we were a second division club when we hired shankly and we had been one for 6 seasons.
if we were in the second division now i`d say yes, fair enough lets go for martinez, but we are not.
and i`ve already explained how money has changed the game in an earlier post, these days you have managers who`s entire mindset is to keep teams in divisions, that didnt happen years ago, if you went down a division it didnt make hardly any difference to your finances if you still had decent crowds.

We were a club going nowhere, then we hired someone who had a vision. Sound familiar?