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Postby RedSi35 » Fri May 18, 2012 7:49 am

It has to be somebody that is going to excite the players in the dressing room as well.

It's all well and good talking about a manager who is going to take us forward, but here in the now we have a squad full of international players who are lets face it.... ...... A spoilt bunch

So, would a Rogers or a Martinez excite our squad, would the foreign lads be inspired by a manager who floated around mid/relegation areas of the premeirship?

My fear is that with the appointment of this type of manager, our few very very decent players will not have the passion.

Dunno ?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri May 18, 2012 7:55 am

Octsky » Fri May 18, 2012 2:27 am wrote:
Benny The Noon » Thu May 17, 2012 5:10 pm wrote:Things got brighter after Rafa left ? Have i missed something ? when the f*ck did things get brighter after Rafa left ?

What an outstandingly stupid comment


at least it was for me, i celebrated when Rafa was sacked, finally an ugly episode ended but that was before they appointed Roy.
and enlightened me again, why  was he sacked few mths later by Inter again?
and mind you, Inter dominated the Seria A after Juve was relegated and previous year they won the champs league and title with mourhino, suddenly with the same squad under Rafa they were a mid table team. again he lost the Inter dressing room.
and you wan to appoint him again? you are beyond stupidity, down to retarded level.


Yes how ugly was it to be in the top 4 every year bar one , beating every single top European Club. Winning the CL, a final of another , an FA Cup, our best Prem seasons in 20 years. Having some of the best players in the world at the club

Please remind how it's been since that "ugly episode" ended. Your single blind hatred of one person is very evident and is ignorant to the fact he was our best manager for 20 years but people like you helped hound him out of the club - congrats , hope the celebrations were worth because as we have seen it was definately the correct choice wasn't it
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Postby Reg » Fri May 18, 2012 8:03 am

Today's Telegraph:

Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre fears club's status among world's elite is in danger if right manager is not found
Liverpool’s status as one of the world’s elite clubs is at risk if they fail to appoint the right successor to Kenny Dalglish, according to the club’s managing director Ian Ayre.

Sounding the alarm: managing director Ian Ayre accepts Liverpool have reached a defining point in their history. Chris Bascombe

11:00PM BST 17 May 2012

He said it was “critical” owner Fenway Sports Group finds a high-calibre coach as Liverpool hunt for their fourth manager in as many seasons, otherwise the continued exile from the Champions League will have long-term consequences.

After the catastrophe of Roy Hodgson and Dalglish’s swift demise, there are fears the five-times European Cup winners are drifting towards permanent mediocrity.

The next few months will determine if FSG is competing for the same standard of manager pursued by Chelsea, or must limit its search to those names targeted by Aston Villa.

The threat to Liverpool's iconic status is not an idle one. It was revealed in recent figures published by the Premier League how the Merseyside club have dropped below Chelsea and Arsenal in England’s most supported teams.

The survey, conducted by SportMarket on behalf of the Premier League, shows Manchester United have 354 million supporters worldwide, Chelsea have 134 million and Arsenal have 113 million. Liverpool are fourth with 71 million and even trail in traditional strongholds. Chelsea have 44 million fans in Asia and the Far East while Liverpool have 33 million.

Ayre, who revealed he has signed a new deal at Anfield despite claims by some he would be next to depart, accepts Liverpool have reached a defining point in their history.

“It’s absolutely critical that we get it right and we move forward,” he said. “The Champions League is where the football club has to be. It’s where everyone wants it to be. When John Henry and Tom Werner arrived, they said they wanted to be winning the league. It won’t happen overnight. Nobody is kidding themselves. But you have got to be heading in that direction. You can only live on history of success for a certain amount of time.

“I don’t believe that Chelsea have more fans in south-east Asia than Liverpool. Spend time in those countries and those cities and you will see that Liverpool and Manchester United dominate the landscape. But it doesn’t last forever. That is why progress is so important. If you are a manager at that level or you are a manager aspiring to get there, I still think this is one of the biggest jobs in world football. We can find a top-class manager to come to this football club.”

Ayre revealed there will be another structural change at Anfield, with scouting, executive and coaching duties redefined. “It will be more than one person, dividing up the responsibilities,” he said. “What you will see over the next two weeks is new people arriving and a momentum of going forward and forward thinking. The idea is rather than one person being responsible for all the elements Damien Comolli’s role took on there will be two or three positions within that.”

Ayre was speaking before the first approaches to some of the candidates, but the latest of many cross-Atlantic conference calls was held yesterday to formulate a shortlist.

Whoever takes over will know the top four means far more than domestic trophies. “It’s a very simple decision based on results,” said Ayre on Dalglish’s exit. “Thirty-seven points off the winners and 17 points off fourth place and 14 losses was the measurement on which the owners made their decision.

“People don’t want to hear that football is a business. They want to see us put lots of money into the football team and win lots of trophies. But you have got to have continued progress in the league. If you don’t get into the Champions League, you are writing cheques from your own pocket. That is not a sustainable way going forward.”
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri May 18, 2012 8:07 am

We are already competing against Villa for Martinez

And that fans survey is a crock of Sh*t - one came out two months ago putting us just behind the mancs and miles ahead of Chelsea and Arsenal
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Postby RichardLFC1 » Fri May 18, 2012 8:12 am

It seems like FSG are looking to highlight the candidates speak to them all before hiring our new man. How long this will take ? Im not sure but i dont think time is on our side as this trasnfer window needs to be perfect for us.

I do think its only out of 4 men

Roberto Martinez
AVB
Rafa
Rijkaard

Rafa and Rijkaard are big named managers and probably would attract more players and possibly AVB might aswell, However if they are planning on hiring a director of football A) I think the mananger wouldnt have to attract the players because the DOF would and B) someone like Rafa isnt going to get on with a DOF.

I personally now dont know what we are going to do or what we should do. I trust FSG they will make the right descion but like i mentioned earlier times ticking away.
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Postby RedSi35 » Fri May 18, 2012 8:34 am

Well.

It seems as long as we have 100million fans in the far east and asia were ok..............

Lets just uproot the stadium Ian.......

How about they think of the fans a bit closer to home first
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Postby Reg » Fri May 18, 2012 8:44 am

We're a 'global brand' mate, just 'cos you live by the factory doesn't mean you're special...  :rasp
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Postby neil » Fri May 18, 2012 8:46 am

Just read thread. Best fans in the world, lol.
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Postby RichardLFC1 » Fri May 18, 2012 8:52 am

Plenty of interest in Liverpool vacancy - Ian Ayre
Use accessible player and disable flyout menusLiverpool managing director Ian Ayre says the club had "plenty of contact" for the vacant managerial position following Kenny Dalglish's departure on Wednesday.

Ayre insists the club did not begin their managerial search prior to Dalglish's sacking and says the work has now "started in earnest", although the club is not looking in "any particular sphere" other than a person who "fits" the club.

He adds that senior players such as Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher were shocked by the decision to sack Dalglish but says the players support the club's decision to move forward.


I wpnder if thats "Shocked" or Outraged
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Postby lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 9:04 am

RichardLFC1 » Fri May 18, 2012 8:12 am wrote:It seems like FSG are looking to highlight the candidates speak to them all before hiring our new man. How long this will take ? Im not sure but i dont think time is on our side as this trasnfer window needs to be perfect for us.

I do think its only out of 4 men

Roberto Martinez
AVB
Rafa
Rijkaard

Rafa and Rijkaard are big named managers and probably would attract more players and possibly AVB might aswell, However if they are planning on hiring a director of football A) I think the mananger wouldnt have to attract the players because the DOF would and B) someone like Rafa isnt going to get on with a DOF.

I personally now dont know what we are going to do or what we should do. I trust FSG they will make the right descion but like i mentioned earlier times ticking away.



lol no the on twitter is
Roberto Martinez
AVB
alan pardew
(Brendan Rodgers to have come off the list going by reports on twitter)

then theres out side runner of
Pep Guardiola


I think AVB  would find it hard to be the manager at our club , we going to have 2 DOF,
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Postby RedAnt » Fri May 18, 2012 9:13 am

Boxscarf » Thu May 17, 2012 9:55 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 17, 2012 9:46 pm wrote:
you just havent got a clue have you lad? why do you think people of my generation have that type of loyalty to dalglish? to you think it`s because he`s got to `L`s in his surname? do you think it`s because he`s scottish?
he earned that loyalty, every f**king last drop of it


I believe you should back boards, managers and players until a time comes when you are forced to say "enough is enough"! People like yourself were saying "Keep the faith in Kenny", "you can't criticise Kenny, he's immune from criticism", "you're not a supporter you are criticising the manager" and yet here we are with you criticising the man who is odds on favourite to become our next manager and I dare say you treated Hodgson with same lack of respect, yet you're a model supporter and should be held in the highest regard. Do as you say, not as you do...


Martinez isn't our manager, is he?  ???
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Postby RedSi35 » Fri May 18, 2012 9:15 am

Reg » Fri May 18, 2012 8:44 am wrote:We're a 'global brand' mate, just 'cos you live by the factory doesn't mean you're special...  :rasp


Heh, of course of course.

Not dissing the global brand, just seems we have been tapping into that market for a while now, and my view......from the factory window is a little murky.

Obviously thats all behind the scenes and its all distracting from the main point.

How many in the far east and asia have heard of brendan rodgers and roberto martinez????? As Ayre says, we want to be a global brand.

Lets get a manager thats is recognised globally
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Postby lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 9:16 am

lol sky put the list at 8?   (AND EVEN THEN RAFA IS NOT ON IT)

I find it strange that Brendan Rodgers was even on the list. it seems we have already spoken to him or his club brfore asking about Roberto Martinez.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Fri May 18, 2012 9:28 am

Reg » Fri May 18, 2012 7:03 am wrote:Today's Telegraph:

[size=150]Whoever takes over will know the top four means far more than domestic trophies. “It’s a very simple decision based on results,” said Ayre on Dalglish’s exit. “Thirty-seven points off the winners and 17 points off fourth place and 14 losses was the measurement on which the owners made their decision.”


What an incentive for the new manager: 4th or youre gone
So much for "stability" and "progress"
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Postby RichardLFC1 » Fri May 18, 2012 9:34 am

lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 8:16 am wrote:lol sky put the list at 8?   (AND EVEN THEN RAFA IS NOT ON IT)

I find it strange that Brendan Rodgers was even on the list. it seems we have already spoken to him or his club brfore asking about Roberto Martinez.


From the 8 mentioned in order

Pep Guardiola
Jurgen Klopp
Fran De Boer
AVB
Didier Deschamps
Fabio Cappello
Roberto Martinez
Brendan Rodgers
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