Liverpool FC Forum

StuYesThatStu » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:40 am wrote:

SouthCoastShankly » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:34 am wrote:

StuYesThatStu » Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:18 pm wrote:Stating a fact that someone isn't a great player isn't being critical.

Like i said, he's not bad, but he's nowhere near as good as what he's being made out to be.

Bit like alot of our other players, which is exactly why we've struggled the last few years.

FYI - stating that someone isn't a great player is an opinion not a fact.

So if I say a blind fella with one footy is better than Suarez is that an opinion or fact?

Do you mean, if you say Suarez is better than a blind person with one foot is that opinion or fact ?

The way you wrote it doesnt make sense, unless you think the blind one footed person is infact better than Suarez 

jacdaniel » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:39 am wrote:Going to be interesting to see how we cope with the pressure now.
At times over the last 3 years we've played / done well in the 2nd half of the season when 4th has already been lost. 
Can we actually get involved and stay in the fight this season.  It would be progress if we did, even if we do eventually fall short.

Benny The Noon » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:10 pm wrote:

jacdaniel » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:39 am wrote:Going to be interesting to see how we cope with the pressure now.
At times over the last 3 years we've played / done well in the 2nd half of the season when 4th has already been lost. 
Can we actually get involved and stay in the fight this season.  It would be progress if we did, even if we do eventually fall short.

Staying in the fight for a CL spot would be a big sign of progress - keeps the big players fit and it's a possibility but one injury to Sturridge or Suarez or Coutinho and we will struggle.

Still think 6th is where we will end up because I still can't see us above the other 5 at the moment

jacdaniel » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:39 am wrote:Going to be interesting to see how we cope with the pressure now.
At times over the last 3 years we've played / done well in the 2nd half of the season when 4th has already been lost. 
Can we actually get involved and stay in the fight this season.  It would be progress if we did, even if we do eventually fall short.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:55 pm wrote:

jacdaniel » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:39 am wrote:Going to be interesting to see how we cope with the pressure now.
At times over the last 3 years we've played / done well in the 2nd half of the season when 4th has already been lost. 
Can we actually get involved and stay in the fight this season.  It would be progress if we did, even if we do eventually fall short.

thats a good point mate, there`s a lot more pressure when there is something is riding on the game.

SouthCoastShankly » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:12 am wrote:

Kenny Kan » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:07 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:44 pm wrote:our next 6 league games (before we play arsenal on the 2nd of november) are deffo winnable, like all prem games they will be tough but we`ll go into every one of them as favourites.
if we could win them all we`d exert a hell of a lot of pressure on the teams around us.

I think our next one is going to be our hardest thus far, Swansea away. That'll be tricky.

I agree although they haven't had the greatest start, Michu looks well off it.

We have done the real tricky bit by beating Utd. Now comes the test of winning games we should be winning plus maybe another Utd scalp.

Septembers fixtures are

Swansea (A) PL
Southampton (H) PL
Man Utd (A) LC
Sunderland (A) PL

Excluding Man Utd, if we are to mount any real challenge to 4th this season it should be another 3 wins.

StuYesThatStu » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:55 pm wrote:I think fifth or six is realistic. I can't see it being better than that.

Suarez is a fabulous player, Gerrard too, even at his age. Enrique is quality and Coutinho has alot about him... but beyond that I don't see any really good players.

Sturridge is ok and will do well in a good side, but he's nothing special for me, he has to many major weaknesses (reminds me a bit of Andy Cole) and the amount of times he should pass and doesn't is really starting to grate my nerves. Agger is another who is ok, as are Aspas and Lucas, but they aren't top players.

The rest of the team like Johnson, Skyrtel, Allen, Henderson are quite frankly embarrassments to the shirt in my opinion.

If we can sign a quality right back, centre half and forward thinking midfielder (similar to Yaya Toure (in style) aswell as getting Pepe back next season then we may be in business, but for me we are still at least four players away from anything like a realistic challenge, as promising as the start is.

StuYesThatStu » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:45 pm wrote:Completely disagree and have never judged a player on form.

Never will.

Ability is what a player should be judged on. Form is temporary.

To say he's the best striker in the country is extremely far fetched, first he'd have to be the best at the club he's playing at and if anyone is going to tell me he's better than Suarez...

Then I'll gladly give you loads of tips on how to get started playing golf

metalhead » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:04 pm wrote:

StuYesThatStu » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:45 pm wrote:Completely disagree and have never judged a player on form.

Never will.

Ability is what a player should be judged on. Form is temporary.

To say he's the best striker in the country is extremely far fetched, first he'd have to be the best at the club he's playing at and if anyone is going to tell me he's better than Suarez...

Then I'll gladly give you loads of tips on how to get started playing golf

Well of course he isn't better than Suarez, if Sturridge can do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcF2gk2pnUI then yes he is as good as Suarez

However, I think Sturridge is good enough to be in the team, can hold up the ball very well (against the Mancs for example), movement is excellent and gets into goal scoring positions. Look at Newcastle last year, the way he laid it off to Coutinho ran past the defenders and picked the ball up, then squared it to Henderson and goal!

metalhead » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:13 pm wrote:but don't take away the fact that was just a world class goal from Suarez, and I think with him on the side (contrary to some ignorant fans) we will do a lot better

devaney » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:20 pm wrote:

metalhead » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:13 pm wrote:but don't take away the fact that was just a world class goal from Suarez, and I think with him on the side (contrary to some ignorant fans) we will do a lot better

Can't wait for Luis to come back. Only people that are bitter and twisted and haven't made a mistake in their lives can honestly believe that we would be better off without him. I pity them.

devaney » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:12 pm wrote:

metalhead » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:04 pm wrote:

StuYesThatStu » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:45 pm wrote:Completely disagree and have never judged a player on form.

Never will.

Ability is what a player should be judged on. Form is temporary.

To say he's the best striker in the country is extremely far fetched, first he'd have to be the best at the club he's playing at and if anyone is going to tell me he's better than Suarez...

Then I'll gladly give you loads of tips on how to get started playing golf

Well of course he isn't better than Suarez, if Sturridge can do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcF2gk2pnUI then yes he is as good as Suarez

However, I think Sturridge is good enough to be in the team, can hold up the ball very well (against the Mancs for example), movement is excellent and gets into goal scoring positions. Look at Newcastle last year, the way he laid it off to Coutinho ran past the defenders and picked the ball up, then squared it to Henderson and goal!

Interesting how bad that thug Collicini was against Suarez !!!