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by **account deleted by request** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:09 pm

I thought we played great football under Evans, and I believed in the missing piece theory(I really thought Ince was it!) I still believe that the '96 team was better than the mancs!

Houllier I thought also had suffered badly from his heart problems and needed time to recover. Sometimes you want to believe so much that you fool yourself into believing that they can turn things around.

Looking back now I can see that all the signs were there that their time was up, I just couldn't see it at the time.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:11 pm

Ok no worries mate - think missing link for evans was two cbs and a confident gk

by **Fowler_E7** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:31 pm

s@int wrote:I thought we played great football under Evans, and I believed in the missing piece theory(I really thought Ince was it!) I still believe that the '96 team was better than the mancs!

Houllier I thought also had suffered badly from his heart problems and needed time to recover. Sometimes you want to believe so much that you fool yourself into believing that they can turn things around.

Looking back now I can see that all the signs were there that their time was up, I just couldn't see it at the time.

I personally thought Evans was unlucky, im not saying we would have won more trophies for sure but if the league was structured how it is now in Evans time we would have played champions league football every year under him and at least we were entertained and got to watch good football. He also left when the good foreign players were coming to the league.

I wathced a repeat of the 2-2 draw at Old Trafford when Fowler scored twice today and it was actually strange to see us take on Man Utd on the there own ground at a football match, attack versus attack. Thats something we havent seen in an awful long time now.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:35 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
s@int wrote:I thought we played great football under Evans, and I believed in the missing piece theory(I really thought Ince was it!) I still believe that the '96 team was better than the mancs!

Houllier I thought also had suffered badly from his heart problems and needed time to recover. Sometimes you want to believe so much that you fool yourself into believing that they can turn things around.

Looking back now I can see that all the signs were there that their time was up, I just couldn't see it at the time.

I personally thought Evans was unlucky, im not saying we would have won more trophies for sure but if the league was structured how it is now in Evans time we would have played champions league football every year under him and at least we were entertained and got to watch good football. He also left when the good foreign players were coming to the league.

I wathced a repeat of the 2-2 draw at Old Trafford when Fowler scored twice today and it was actually strange to see us take on Man Utd on the there own ground at a football match, attack versus attack. Thats something we havent seen in an awful long time now.

So did you prefer that 2-2 draw to the 4-1 win at their place last season ?

All out attacking football = one point , last season defend solidly , and destroy them with pace on the break =3 points

which do you you prefer

by **Sir Roger** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:37 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
s@int wrote:I thought we played great football under Evans, and I believed in the missing piece theory(I really thought Ince was it!) I still believe that the '96 team was better than the mancs!

Houllier I thought also had suffered badly from his heart problems and needed time to recover. Sometimes you want to believe so much that you fool yourself into believing that they can turn things around.

Looking back now I can see that all the signs were there that their time was up, I just couldn't see it at the time.

I personally thought Evans was unlucky, im not saying we would have won more trophies for sure but if the league was structured how it is now in Evans time we would have played champions league football every year under him and at least we were entertained and got to watch good football. He also left when the good foreign players were coming to the league.

I wathced a repeat of the 2-2 draw at Old Trafford when Fowler scored twice today and it was actually strange to see us take on Man Utd on the there own ground at a football match, attack versus attack. Thats something we havent seen in an awful long time now.

So did you prefer that 2-2 draw to the 4-1 win at their place last season ?

All out attacking football = one point , last season defend solidly , and destroy them with pace on the break =3 points

which do you you prefer

Erm two of those goals were route one:
Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof
:;):

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:41 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
s@int wrote:I thought we played great football under Evans, and I believed in the missing piece theory(I really thought Ince was it!) I still believe that the '96 team was better than the mancs!

Houllier I thought also had suffered badly from his heart problems and needed time to recover. Sometimes you want to believe so much that you fool yourself into believing that they can turn things around.

Looking back now I can see that all the signs were there that their time was up, I just couldn't see it at the time.

I personally thought Evans was unlucky, im not saying we would have won more trophies for sure but if the league was structured how it is now in Evans time we would have played champions league football every year under him and at least we were entertained and got to watch good football. He also left when the good foreign players were coming to the league.

I wathced a repeat of the 2-2 draw at Old Trafford when Fowler scored twice today and it was actually strange to see us take on Man Utd on the there own ground at a football match, attack versus attack. Thats something we havent seen in an awful long time now.

So did you prefer that 2-2 draw to the 4-1 win at their place last season ?

All out attacking football = one point , last season defend solidly , and destroy them with pace on the break =3 points

which do you you prefer

Erm two of those goals were route one:
Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

Do you get a less of a goal if its route one ? is the ending still not the same ? Isnt the main objective to get the ball in the back of the net in anyway possible .

by **Sir Roger** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:46 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
s@int wrote:I thought we played great football under Evans, and I believed in the missing piece theory(I really thought Ince was it!) I still believe that the '96 team was better than the mancs!

Houllier I thought also had suffered badly from his heart problems and needed time to recover. Sometimes you want to believe so much that you fool yourself into believing that they can turn things around.

Looking back now I can see that all the signs were there that their time was up, I just couldn't see it at the time.

I personally thought Evans was unlucky, im not saying we would have won more trophies for sure but if the league was structured how it is now in Evans time we would have played champions league football every year under him and at least we were entertained and got to watch good football. He also left when the good foreign players were coming to the league.

I wathced a repeat of the 2-2 draw at Old Trafford when Fowler scored twice today and it was actually strange to see us take on Man Utd on the there own ground at a football match, attack versus attack. Thats something we havent seen in an awful long time now.

So did you prefer that 2-2 draw to the 4-1 win at their place last season ?

All out attacking football = one point , last season defend solidly , and destroy them with pace on the break =3 points

which do you you prefer

Erm two of those goals were route one:
Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

Do you get a less of a goal if its route one ? is the ending still not the same ? Isnt the main objective to get the ball in the back of the net in anyway possible .

No you are quite right they all count the same

So why didnt Rafa say "dont try to play football, hoof the Fu*king thing up into their area as much as possible?"
We might have scored more...

by **Fowler_E7** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:48 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
s@int wrote:I thought we played great football under Evans, and I believed in the missing piece theory(I really thought Ince was it!) I still believe that the '96 team was better than the mancs!

Houllier I thought also had suffered badly from his heart problems and needed time to recover. Sometimes you want to believe so much that you fool yourself into believing that they can turn things around.

Looking back now I can see that all the signs were there that their time was up, I just couldn't see it at the time.

I personally thought Evans was unlucky, im not saying we would have won more trophies for sure but if the league was structured how it is now in Evans time we would have played champions league football every year under him and at least we were entertained and got to watch good football. He also left when the good foreign players were coming to the league.

I wathced a repeat of the 2-2 draw at Old Trafford when Fowler scored twice today and it was actually strange to see us take on Man Utd on the there own ground at a football match, attack versus attack. Thats something we havent seen in an awful long time now.

So did you prefer that 2-2 draw to the 4-1 win at their place last season ?

All out attacking football = one point , last season defend solidly , and destroy them with pace on the break =3 points

which do you you prefer

Well obviously id take a victory, but how many times have we beaten Man Utd under Rafa playing cautious football anyway? his record against Man Utd isnt much better than Roy Evans was.

My point was in those games we played them at football and tried to beat them with our skill and abilty, not through hard work and tough tackling. Now im not saying that Rafa should go to Old Trafford and make us play like Barcelona but if set up his teams more attack minded more often maybe his tenure would have been more succesful.

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:49 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Do you get a less of a goal if its route one ? is the ending still not the same ? Isnt the main objective to get the ball in the back of the net in anyway possible .

Actually the main point is supposedly to entertain, football now is all about results, but it is still supposed to be a spectator sport. While as a Liverpool supporter I am more interested in the result most neutrals watching the game are more interested in an entertaining game of football. And like it or not there are more neutrals watching Liverpool on TV week in week out than there are diehard fans that will watch any old rubbish as long as there is a shiny trophy at the end of it.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:51 pm

And maybe they wouldnt be - his win to loss ratio is better than any of the previous managers (evans and gh )- one who played attacking football and one who played defensive football - even under kenny and bob and shanks are record against the mancs was never that good and we certainly never stuffed them 4-1 at their own ground

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:52 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Do you get a less of a goal if its route one ? is the ending still not the same ? Isnt the main objective to get the ball in the back of the net in anyway possible .

Actually the main point is supposedly to entertain, football now is all about results, but it is still supposed to be a spectator sport. While as a Liverpool supporter I am more interested in the result most neutrals watching the game are more interested in an entertaining game of football. And like it or not there are more neutrals watching Liverpool on TV week in week out than there are diehard fans that will watch any old rubbish as long as there is a shiny trophy at the end of it.

i agree that football should be all about entertainment but that changed the day sky started the premier league and it became all about results and money .

by **tonyeh** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:53 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Do you get a less of a goal if its route one ? is the ending still not the same ? Isnt the main objective to get the ball in the back of the net in anyway possible .

Actually the main point is supposedly to entertain, football now is all about results, but it is still supposed to be a spectator sport. While as a Liverpool supporter I am more interested in the result most neutrals watching the game are more interested in an entertaining game of football. And like it or not there are more neutrals watching Liverpool on TV week in week out than there are diehard fans that will watch any old rubbish as long as there is a shiny trophy at the end of it.

I seriously doubt that there's many neutrals lining up for the shite Liverpool offer up these days though S@int.

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:55 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:And maybe they wouldnt be - his win to loss ratio is better than any of the previous managers - one who played attacking football and one who played defensive football - even under kenny and bob and shanks are record against the mancs was never that good and we certainly never stuffed them 4-1 at their own ground

But under Shanks , Bob, Fagan and Kenny it was US picking up the shiny trophy at the end of the season. No point beating the mancs 10-0 if they are winning the cups and we are crying in our beer.

I would lose 4-1 to the mancs EVERY YEAR if it meant we won the league every year.

BTW You are WRONG. Kenny has the best win loss ratio with 60 odd percent.

by **Fowler_E7** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:00 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:And maybe they wouldnt be - his win to loss ratio is better than any of the previous managers - one who played attacking football and one who played defensive football - even under kenny and bob and shanks are record against the mancs was never that good and we certainly never stuffed them 4-1 at their own ground

But under Shanks , Bob, Fagan and Kenny it was US picking up the shiny trophy at the end of the season. No point beating the mancs 10-0 if they are winning the cups and we are crying in our beer.

I would lose 4-1 to the mancs EVERY YEAR if it meant we won the league every year.

BTW You are WRONG. Kenny has the best win loss ratio with 60 odd percent.

Kenny had the bootroom though, and football's a diffrent sport since then, and errrm he spent more than Rafa and the owners were nice guys then

by **Sir Roger** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:01 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:And maybe they wouldnt be - his win to loss ratio is better than any of the previous managers (evans and gh )- one who played attacking football and one who played defensive football - even under kenny and bob and shanks are record against the mancs was never that good and we certainly never stuffed them 4-1 at their own ground

No hoofing it in those days?

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