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by **JoeTerp** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:08 pm

Sabre wrote:
I think the 2 in the middle (Alonso, Mascherano) as a pairing are a part of our attacking problems..

Liverpool are such a big club, that even their "attacking problems" are worth 30M each.

have there been any developments today?

by **Sabre** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:13 pm

If as developments you are meaning the trickery of Marca and AS yes, but is it worth the effort to update you with that trickery?

Basically Marca says Madrid has a B plan, Defour, in case the negotiations don't go to well. But that's the kind of move that doesn't help their goal, as Alonso won't be happy not to see he's REALLY important. Real Madrid asks a lot to their targets (as in, make transfer requests, say this, say that) but then lets them down in the moment of truth.

The other diary, AS, who basically writes the stuff Balague dictates them, says that there will be a meeting between Purslow and Madrid staff in the Juan Carlos I hotel in Barcelona. The best mate, if you ask me, is to wait and see. But I wouldn't say the deal is done whatsoever. Real Madrid wanted to use the transfer request and the media to try and force a situation, but Purslow doesn't seem to be affected by those moves. If they don't pay, he won't go.

by **heimdall** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:18 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
i didnt even bother checking for a link for the story till Woof asked for one.. i'd heard it on the news and merely mentioned it in a post before being asked about the source...

...and I was 'merely' highlighting that it might be worth considering where you pull shit from before linking to it.

Well I think we get your point now, just about. :suspect:

by **boodiddy1** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:29 pm

rafa and purslow will get the deal thats right for liverpool and not RM or Alonso which seems to have happened too many times in the past with Coco.

It looks like the deal will be concluded in the next 24hours and if whats being reported a deal of circa 30m straight cash one payment, is one hell of a deal if you ask me. We can move on, thank xabi and pursue other players. Remember, that only four years ago we nearly lost stevie to chelski for 35m. I mean, FFS stevie! Now, i love the way xabi plays but for me he is definately replaceable.

If we use the money wisely i reckon we can get two very good players. I mean, wenger is talking about chamack for 6m! Rafa will be able to get a good couple of signings that can really improve this squad. Silva, de costa, aquilani, diego, de rossi, martinez etc.

Let him go and lets see what pans out.

by **bigmick** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:08 pm

Anything more than 25 million quid and we've got ourselves an excellent deal IMHO. My only concern would then be what we intend to do with it. If as seems likely we already have a replacement squared up, I hop he can come in and make an impact. In his Liverpool career, Rafa has made some truly inspiring signings, but then again he has made some truly terrible ones and I can only hope this one will be one of the former.

Two other things. Firstly, if the intention is to buy a player for a different position and either move Gerrard back or to play Lucas on a first choice basis, I think that would be an error. Secondly, if the fee for any new midfielder we've earmarked hasn't been actually signed for, then we may find ourselves getting ripped off as we will be desperate given how long the negotiations with Madrid have dragged on.

by **Penguins** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:38 pm

I find it more infuiating that once again we will sell again to what RM want and not ourselves.
They really want a player from us and once again it is what they want to pay that dictates the deal.

RM continually play the "he wasn't worth more than 20 million last season" and insist they offer a fair deal.
Then why didn't they pay that then??? :angry:

I hope we stand our ground and bleed them dry for everything they got but I can't see it happening...

by **boodiddy1** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:53 pm

judging by tonights performance, we need that money and fast so we can get some back up for torres because our other so called strikers are :censored:

awful. Dont get me started on phil degan. Rafa knows he has a hard job.

IN all honesty, we will only win league if our main players stayrelatively fit and injury free through the season. San jose, plessis, not ready yet. I like lil jay though, i can see a good player in him. Maybe, could be a fruitful season for him. He shows great purpose.

Finally, why is rafa rubbing salt into xabi's and our wounds. No need to play him for eight minutes. A little bit childish and unprofessional.

by **heimdall** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:54 pm

We need more defenders, 3-0 to Espanyol. :no

by **heimdall** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:56 pm

boodiddy1 wrote:judging by tonights performance, we need that money and fast so we can get some back up for torres because our other so called strikers are awful. Dont get me started on phil degan. Rafa knows he has a hard job.

IN all honesty, we will only win league if our main players stayrelatively fit and injury free through the season. San jose, plessis, not ready yet. I like lil jay though, i can see a good player in him. Maybe, could be a fruitful season for him. He shows great purpose.

Finally, why is rafa rubbing salt into xabi's and our wounds. No need to play him for eight minutes. A little bit childish and unprofessional.

The look on Xabi's face when he came on though, he soooo didn't want to be out there.

by **JoeTerp** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:03 pm

Sabre wrote:If as developments you are meaning the trickery of Marca and AS yes, but is it worth the effort to update you with that trickery?

Basically Marca says Madrid has a B plan, Defour, in case the negotiations don't go to well. But that's the kind of move that doesn't help their goal, as Alonso won't be happy not to see he's REALLY important. Real Madrid asks a lot to their targets (as in, make transfer requests, say this, say that) but then lets them down in the moment of truth.

The other diary, AS, who basically writes the stuff Balague dictates them, says that there will be a meeting between Purslow and Madrid staff in the Juan Carlos I hotel in Barcelona. The best mate, if you ask me, is to wait and see. But I wouldn't say the deal is done whatsoever. Real Madrid wanted to use the transfer request and the media to try and force a situation, but Purslow doesn't seem to be affected by those moves. If they don't pay, he won't go.

i mean in terms of latest offers and counter-offers

by **account deleted by request** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:33 pm

From The Times August 3, 2009

Liverpool and Real meet to thrash out Alonso dealOliver Kay, Football Correspondent Recommend? (2) The torturous saga of Xabi Alonso’s departure from Liverpool to Real Madrid was close to a conclusion yesterday afternoon as the two clubs held discussions at a hotel in Barcelona, where Rafael Benítez’s team were playing a friendly match against Espanyol.

Benítez has long resigned himself to selling Alonso, but he has frustrated Real by demanding a fee of at least £30 million, which is at least £6 million more than the Spanish club’s only firm offer. José Ángel Sánchez, the executive director-general of Real, travelled to Barcelona yesterday to hold talks with several Liverpool officials and, although no final agreement was reached over a fee, the matter is expected to be resolved by the end of today, with the deal likely to be struck at about £28 million.

Later in the day Alonso made a brief appearance as a substitute in Liverpool’s match against Espanyol, a fixture agreed last summer as part of Albert Riera’s move to Anfield to mark the official opening of the Spanish club’s new 40,000-capacity stadium. His presence in the squad served as a reminder to Real that no deal is yet agreed and that Alonso is still Liverpool property.

Benítez, whose relationship with Alonso has never recovered since his attempts to offload him to Juventus last summer, has been scouring Europe in search of a suitable replacement and has identified the contrasting figures of Alberto Aquilani, the Roma midfield player, and Lee Cattermole, of Wigan Athletic, as well as Javi Martínez, of Athletic Bilbao. Reports in Italy last night claimed that a bid of £17.9 million had been registered with Roma for Aquilani, 25, but Liverpool officials insisted that no such deal had been made.

Alonso’s seemingly inevitable departure will come as a blow, but Benítez believes that the midfield player’s much-lauded contribution last season has been overestimated. He feels that recruiting a more attack-minded player to operate alongside Javier Mascherano may benefit the team.

times

by **bigmick** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:40 pm

s@int wrote:Benítez believes that the midfield player’s much-lauded contribution last season has been overestimated. He feels that recruiting a more attack-minded player to operate alongside Javier Mascherano may benefit the team.

Good job he doesn't post stuff like that on here, feck me he'd get mauled for such thoughts.

by **Effes** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:47 pm

bigmick wrote:
s@int wrote:Benítez believes that the midfield player’s much-lauded contribution last season has been overestimated. He feels that recruiting a more attack-minded player to operate alongside Javier Mascherano may benefit the team.

Good job he doesn't post stuff like that on here, feck me he'd get mauled for such thoughts.

Exactly what I was thinking; Im sure Lando would rip into them with his usual cutting wit

But no, hang on, even Rafa thinks someone can do a better job than Xabi??!! Whatever next?

by **NANNY RED** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:10 pm

Hes actualy one of the better journos around , plus the fact that hes a die hard red. But on this occasion i dont agree wih what he has wrote, If Rafa thinks Xabis contrubution was over estimated last season, why the h.ell then did he want him to stay ,an why is he an Purslow not budging with Madrid, if he was over estimated,

by **aCe'** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:15 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Hes actualy one of the better journos around , plus the fact that hes a die hard red. But on this occasion i dont agree wih what he has wrote, If Rafa thinks Xabis contrubution was over estimated last season, why the h.ell then did he want him to stay ,an why is he an Purslow not budging with Madrid, if he was over estimated,

probably has as much to do with what others are asking for the players we inquire about as it does his value to the side...

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