JoeTerp wrote:aquilani's reported price is 20 million Euros. Silva i think would cost at least 25 million pounds
NANNY RED wrote:s@int wrote:JoeTerp wrote:choices a and b are comparing apples to bad apples.
although scott parker would (hopefully) cost less than Aquilani, the difference between their prices are nowhere near enough to afford villa or silva. so you either need to add in a player of much higher quality to replace N'gog in option b or put in a player of less quality in option a instead of the valencia boys
I would reckon on Silva costing about £20million and Parker "supposedly " £4million Joe.
Aquilani about £20million?
I just threw Villa in to get Nanny's hopes up
Do you know what though Saint im not to fussed about Villa , yes id be made up if we signed him , But id prefer Silva, tbh Winger , or when Nessasary if Stevie does ever drop back in the middle now an again , Silva can slot in there , best of both worlds really
bigmick wrote:If it is the case that this Aquilani bloke is to be the chosen midfielder, doesn't his injury record come into play and if it does what exactly is it? Someone posted up about 49 mpages ago how many games he has played over the last five seasons and while it's not quite Phillip Deganesque, his record is certainly in Fabio Aurelio territory.
Is there any definitive info on how likely he is to play a number of matches consectuviely in the most physical league in the World? People who are decrying the likes of Scotty Parker and Lee Cattermole, and have previously laughed off the likes of Gareth Barry ought to consider such factors because they are important. All players get unlucky with injuries from time toi time, but some more than others. There was a reason why we got Deggen and Aurelio on free's, just as there was a reason Harry Kewell fecked off on a free.
We don't need another sicknote (sung to the tune of Tina Turners "we don't need another Hero").
Julio-0 wrote:bigmick wrote:If it is the case that this Aquilani bloke is to be the chosen midfielder, doesn't his injury record come into play and if it does what exactly is it? Someone posted up about 49 mpages ago how many games he has played over the last five seasons and while it's not quite Phillip Deganesque, his record is certainly in Fabio Aurelio territory.
Is there any definitive info on how likely he is to play a number of matches consectuviely in the most physical league in the World? People who are decrying the likes of Scotty Parker and Lee Cattermole, and have previously laughed off the likes of Gareth Barry ought to consider such factors because they are important. All players get unlucky with injuries from time toi time, but some more than others. There was a reason why we got Deggen and Aurelio on free's, just as there was a reason Harry Kewell fecked off on a free.
We don't need another sicknote (sung to the tune of Tina Turners "we don't need another Hero").
True. Buy Aquilani is an error, otherwise why the roma fans are celebrating for this transfer?![]()
Instead Silva![]()
For Lavezzi, Napoli wants 20 milion Euros
Julio-0 wrote:bigmick wrote:If it is the case that this Aquilani bloke is to be the chosen midfielder, doesn't his injury record come into play and if it does what exactly is it? Someone posted up about 49 mpages ago how many games he has played over the last five seasons and while it's not quite Phillip Deganesque, his record is certainly in Fabio Aurelio territory.
Is there any definitive info on how likely he is to play a number of matches consectuviely in the most physical league in the World? People who are decrying the likes of Scotty Parker and Lee Cattermole, and have previously laughed off the likes of Gareth Barry ought to consider such factors because they are important. All players get unlucky with injuries from time toi time, but some more than others. There was a reason why we got Deggen and Aurelio on free's, just as there was a reason Harry Kewell fecked off on a free.
We don't need another sicknote (sung to the tune of Tina Turners "we don't need another Hero").
True. Buy Aquilani is an error, otherwise why the roma fans are celebrating for this transfer?![]()
Instead Silva![]()
For Lavezzi, Napoli wants 20 milion Euros
aCe' wrote:red37 wrote:aCe' wrote:red37 wrote:aCe' wrote:heavily linked to Villa today...
Link? Source? -
I sincerely hope you do not refer to the one put up on the top of the BBC Sports 'gossip section'
ESPN
its all over the place im sure if you do a google search you'll find other links aswell... was on ESPN earlier but i still dont think we'd be able to afford him...
Yes, and who is 'generating' these reports? Thats right - the s*n.
whats your point Sherlock ?
JoeTerp wrote:Julio-0 wrote:bigmick wrote:If it is the case that this Aquilani bloke is to be the chosen midfielder, doesn't his injury record come into play and if it does what exactly is it? Someone posted up about 49 mpages ago how many games he has played over the last five seasons and while it's not quite Phillip Deganesque, his record is certainly in Fabio Aurelio territory.
Is there any definitive info on how likely he is to play a number of matches consectuviely in the most physical league in the World? People who are decrying the likes of Scotty Parker and Lee Cattermole, and have previously laughed off the likes of Gareth Barry ought to consider such factors because they are important. All players get unlucky with injuries from time toi time, but some more than others. There was a reason why we got Deggen and Aurelio on free's, just as there was a reason Harry Kewell fecked off on a free.
We don't need another sicknote (sung to the tune of Tina Turners "we don't need another Hero").
True. Buy Aquilani is an error, otherwise why the roma fans are celebrating for this transfer?![]()
Instead Silva![]()
For Lavezzi, Napoli wants 20 milion Euros
especially because we are about to sell them the Doss, Lavezzi at 20 M Euros is a price to bite their hands off. People are hyping up Hamsik a lot but he just seems above average with potential for me. He plays in a weird position at Napoli, or at least when I watch him he is this sort of box-to-box, attacking, left-sided, central midfielder and some of the rumored prices of over 20 are over the odds imo. Lavezzi's ceiling imo, is much much higher, he could play in all 4 of our attacking roles, and has the pace to blow by anybody in any league.
aCe' wrote:devaney wrote:roberto green wrote:kopite_1232002 wrote:I'd give them a deadline and a figure that we would accept. I'd tell xabi what's going on and if they don't come up trumps then he stays. Simple
it's a world cup year so xabi is gonna be playing his heart out anyway for that and even if it wasn't I wudnt have xabi down as a sulking type.
We could keep hold of him has a quailty year has a good world cup and he still has 2 years left on his contract were talking big big money then ... We don't need to sell. IF they don't meet are valuation so what keep him. He will still give 100%
Well said
Excellent post.
We had too many draws in 2007/8 and 2008/9 and that was our downfall.
Alonso missed a lot of games in 2007/8 - does anybody know the results record for the matches he missed?
I am a fan of Xabi's 2008/9 stand out season but not some of his earlier performances. He plays wonderful precision passes and reads the game brilliantly. His major problem is that he scores very few goals and has very few assists to his name. I know that is not necessarily his game
but could we get a more rounded player that actually puts the ball in the back of the net. Is that a lot to ask of a high valued midfield player?
thing is, not many midfielders contribute much in terms of goals and assists anyways.... the likes of Carrick, Essien, Ballack (new role at Chelsea), Scholes, Iniesta, Pirlo... all have similar stats in those departments to Alonso's...
the problems we have with smaller sides are mainly due to our lack of quality down the flanks... THIS IS NOT A DIG AT KUYT.... but if you take the English league for example... you look at the sides that have won the league in the last 4 or 5 years and you'll see that the difference between the attacking talents in those sides and what we have at Liverpool now is clear..
ManUtd:
had Carrick who played a similar role to Alonsos but again he didnt contribute much in terms of goals or assists.. most of their attacking threat came from them having Ronaldo controlling the game down the flanks with Rooney, Berbatov/Teves providing the quality through the middle.. What Ronaldo does is more than just scoring goals and providing assists... he receives the ball and commands the pattern of play.. with him out of their side, the likes of Carrick, Valencia, Park and Berbatov are going to have to step up big time for them to win anything next season..
Chelsea:
played a more direct style with Drogba being the focal point of their attack... down the flanks they had Robben and J.Cole providing the quality... Lampard providing further attacking quality down the middle... take Robben and Cole out of the side and replace them with good but not top class player in their positions and they miss out on the title for a few years.. good side they are, yes.. but not good enough to win the league...
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Im not saying its unrealistic suggesting that a 'better rounded' player would offer us more in terms of us being an attacking threat, but to me, its unrealistic expecting such a change to be the solution to our attacking struggles against smaller sides... Aquilanis a good player and im sure he'll add to our attacking play a fair bit, but will it be enough to turn most of the draws into wins? im not so sure...
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