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by **tubby** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:22 am

We never replaced Keane and there lies the problem.

by **Fauxy** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:56 am

This hernia thing, weather true or not might be a nice wake up call for rafa to urgently get a good backup striker.

I think he is a brilliant manager but he makes small mistakes that lead to big ones. I think spending 17.5Million on Johnson was a mistake because although I think he is a very good player and is a better rb than Arbeloa, we had right back covered for the time being. We needed a backup striker more and we still do now.

by **loopyliverpool** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:10 am

Rafa either palyed Keane as a lone striker or he palyed him out wide neither of which suited Keane's talents. To get the best out of him he should have played him up front with someone else... it isn't that diificult to see why he failed with us. The whole saga with Keane was played out very poorly by our manager.

by **stmichael** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:12 am

The rumours are out in force obviously:

http://www.talksport.net/mediapl....aType=1

by **bunglemark2** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:15 am

stmichael wrote:The rumours are out in force obviously:

http://www.talksport.net/mediapl....aType=1

Can't play that - what's the jist of it ?

by **NANNY RED** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:23 am

stmichael wrote:The rumours are out in force obviously:

http://www.talksport.net/mediapl....aType=1

Mike that feckin station wrecked my head in last night , I was arguing with my other half about Stan fecking Collymore , can you believe it , Arguing over a t.wat like that, :no

iT GETTING OUT OF CONTROL no one knows the phisical condition of our players exept the team who work with them, an yet youve got every feckin Tom Dick an Harry sprouting there mouth off about why Torres came off , Collymore even had the cheek to say if he knew he was injured why not put him on the bench an bring him on for 10 minutes , Who the feck is he like, dirty g.et

by **kazza** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:27 am

bigmick wrote:??? If you think that N'Gog is a better player than Keane then I aren't going to argue with you. It's absolutely pointless, so we'll leave that one.

Even odder than that, is your attempt at sarcasm where you imply that Rafa couldn't have known Torres would get injured "a year later". I aren't going to argue about that one either, because it's pointless.

Your last paragraph is hard to argue with because I'm not sure I know what you are saying. It appears that you are implying that I am the only person who thinks it might have been a mistake to get rid of him in the way we did, without having a replacement.

You truly are devoid of any semblance of a clue.

Well life is proving otherwise because I am not doing too badly :;):

. Maybe you are not a good judge of a clue.

1. I said Ngog scores more not he is better

2. Raffa had players lined up but were not bought (even you admitted he was not supported in the transfer market)

3. Keane was not good enough, why is that hard to understand (then go to point 2.)

I suppose it is pointless to argue with me when you keep missing the point. Claiming that it is pointless to argue with me and I am clueless to discredit me and the fact you have no reply, well that is just your style now isn't it. Everyday I am proved to have a clue (once again :;):

) so no worries on your opinion :cool:

or others on here that fall for your backdoor diplomacy

by **kazza** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:34 am

NANNY RED wrote:
stmichael wrote:The rumours are out in force obviously:

http://www.talksport.net/mediapl....aType=1

Mike that feckin station wrecked my head in last night , I was arguing with my other half about Stan fecking Collymore , can you believe it , Arguing over a t.wat like that, iT GETTING OUT OF CONTROL no one knows the phisical condition of our players exept the team who work with them, an yet youve got every feckin Tom Dick an Harry sprouting there mouth off about why Torres came off , Collymore even had the cheek to say if he knew he was injured why not put him on the bench an bring him on for 10 minutes , Who the feck is he like, dirty g.et

Are you talking about idiot pundits who have no clue and just talking for the sake of it or idiot posters who have no clue just talking for the sake of it, because I couldn't tell. At least the pundits are getting paid.

by **JoeTerp** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:44 pm

Keane wasn't exactly a big contributor to the club, so I don't really get the we never replaced Robbie Keane and thats why were are terrible line. I think its more like we replaced Crouch with Keane and Keane was a bust and when we sold him the money seemed to dissapear into thin air. Obviously the money went to SOMETHING, and if it wasn't raised in the first place, we would have had 15 or so million less to spend this summer.

There is also a major knowledge problem when critizing Rafa over the Johnson signing and "ignoring" the striking dept. We don't know if the policy was changed on him mid-summer and if he had bugeted to sign a striker later with the leftover cash from Alonso -Aquilani profit.

We also had trouble finding buyers that weren't lowballing us for people like Dossena, Voronin, Babel, etc.

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:13 pm

Seems Torres has a groin injury that requires rest and not a hernia according to sky ?!

by **Bammo** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:44 pm

SSN just says he has a sports hernia

Sports hernia

I'm not sure why everyone says he may need surgery. If it's a hernia then it doesn't heal itself. The only way it can be rectified is by surgery. It can be delayed but it all depends on how comfortable he is and there's the risk of tearing it further.

It takes about 2 months to recover from the surgery. He'll have pain just walking for the 1st month so it means that unless he can hang on until January (not likely and not worth the risk from his point of view) we'll be relying on N'Gog, Kuyt, Babel or Voronin for 2 months

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:51 pm

Thats a bit different to what they were saying 30 mins ago .

by **Bammo** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:54 pm

They were reporting on Rafa's press conference. He came out with a classic quote though. Apparently they asked if he was the best man for the job and he replied:

"when you walk through a storm you have to hold your head up high" :blues:

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:14 pm

Good Lad Rafa -

by **kazza** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:15 am

Bammo wrote:They were reporting on Rafa's press conference. He came out with a classic quote though. Apparently they asked if he was the best man for the job and he replied:

"when you walk through a storm you have to hold your head up high"

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